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Emmerdale: Shock Passion!
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samcains90
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Is it not a bit soon to write the story off? We don't know for certain what it is or how it will play out. It hasn't even started. All we have is a reference in a magazine.”

Perhaps, but I'm feeling a little affair'd out - I didn't think we would be getting yet another one!

Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“BiB : Well d'uh! Since she noticed what a hot sexy babe magnet he is and then discovered his scintillating, warm and caring personality of course. (Well, when he's not locking various females in nasty places). What's not to love?”

Oh of course! How could I forget?
Dress to Kill
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Perhaps, but I'm feeling a little affair'd out - I didn't think we would be getting yet another one!”

I don't think it'll be an affair, especially seeming as

Spoiler
Robert finds out about the kiss from Hariett the next day.


It's gonna be a totally random one off.
80's Gal
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by star89:
“I wouldn't call it shock, more totally ridiculous. I just hope the full storyline makes more sense.”

Completely ridiculous and I'm thinking that Kate Oates has completely lost the plot

We are expected to believe that
Spoiler
Cain can resist Charity because he loves Moira but he can't resist Chrissie


Stuff and nonsense I say
80's Gal
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“Why would
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Chrissie just happen to go along with that though? Why now?
All these tangled relationships are becoming messy and increasingly hard to follow. There's Emma/James/Chas, Adam/Victoria/Vanessa/Kirin, Jai/Leyla/Megan, Ross/Carly/Pete/Debbie and now
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Chrissie/Cain/Moira/Robert/Aaron
And that's not including a potential Laurel/Marlon/Ashley/Harriet fall out.”



Don't forget that all of the three major storylines that are part of Emmerdales Summer are centred on affairs. What happened to a good old fashioned murder eh?
sorcha_healy27
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by 80's Gal:
“Completely ridiculous and I'm thinking that Kate Oates has completely lost the plot

We are expected to believe that
Spoiler
Cain can resist Charity because he loves Moira but he can't resist Chrissie


Stuff and nonsense I say ”

Noooooooooo

I'd much prefer

Spoiler
Chrissie/ross
cybersq
03-06-2015
Didn't think there would be so much interest!

I Can confirm the the passion is Lachlan and Belle.

EVERYONE, im JOKING. it's a joke, it's not really!
Crooked Heart
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Great post!

I can't enjoy these affair storylines because it doesn't feel like the characters are doing it for any real reason. Leyla loves Jai? Since when

Obviously the fallouts will be entertaining to watch but the build up is much less interesting because there's no relationship to invest in. Thank goodness David and Alicia are moving to Portugal and that they are not involved in this mess.”

Thanks

Yep, I agree. There's often very little build up (if any) to these couples getting together and when they do, they show so little bonding between them that it's hard to care about them when they split up.
Even the Rob/Aaron relationship which they've spent some time on has mostly been about them meeting up to sleep together. When they had the opportunity to show them actually bonding as a couple(the week Aaron spent alone with Rob in Home Farm) they didn't bother to show it. When they(and other couples like Kirin/Vanessa, Leyla/Jai, Pete/Debbie, Victoria/Adam etc) start throwing the 'I love yous' about, after being together for a couple of episodes, it doesn't really mean anything and as you say, it's hard to get invested.
Crooked Heart
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cybersq:
“Didn't think there would be so much interest!

I Can confirm the the passion is Lachlan and Belle.

EVERYONE, im JOKING. it's a joke, it's not really!”

I hope you are joking!

Lachy better not put his clammy hands on our Belle!
owen10
03-06-2015
Dont tell me it is going to be Pete and his mother Well they look the same age and he has not seen her since he was a kid
ME1234567
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Dont tell me it is going to be Pete and his mother Well they look the same age and he has not seen her since he was a kid”

I don't think so
cybersq
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“I hope you are joking!

Lachy better not put his clammy hands on our Belle!”

I Swear it's a joke.
cyrilandshirley
03-06-2015
Cain is going to have a red hot affair with me.

No one saw it coming, and I didn't mean to hurt Moira, but the chemistry just became undeniable.
hypergreenfrog
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“Thanks

Yep, I agree. There's often very little build up (if any) to these couples getting together and when they do, they show so little bonding between them that it's hard to care about them when they split up.
Even the Rob/Aaron relationship which they've spent some time on has mostly been about them meeting up to sleep together. When they had the opportunity to show them actually bonding as a couple(the week Aaron spent alone with Rob in Home Farm) they didn't bother to show it. When they(and other couples like Kirin/Vanessa, Leyla/Jai, Pete/Debbie, Victoria/Adam etc) start throwing the 'I love yous' about, after being together for a couple of episodes, it doesn't really mean anything and as you say, it's hard to get invested.”


I guess it's mostly down to scenes showing couples slowly bonding don't make exciting TV drama. If there's no immediate drama/action/danger, then it's not good for the ratings.

That said, I personally would much prefer to see relationships grow and last a while. Then any affair or cheating would at least have some emotional impact, and a fall out might seem more believable.
Crooked Heart
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cybersq:
“I Swear it's a joke.”

Crooked Heart
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“Cain is going to have a red hot affair with me.

No one saw it coming, and I didn't mean to hurt Moira, but the chemistry just became undeniable.”



She won't hear it from me
samcains90
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Dress to Kill:
“I don't think it'll be an affair, especially seeming as

Spoiler
Robert finds out about the kiss from Hariett the next day.


It's gonna be a totally random one off.”

Well let's hope so but then it seems even more random and bizarre to even include it. I hope, like Star, that it makes more sense on screen.

Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“Thanks

Yep, I agree. There's often very little build up (if any) to these couples getting together and when they do, they show so little bonding between them that it's hard to care about them when they split up.
Even the Rob/Aaron relationship which they've spent some time on has mostly been about them meeting up to sleep together. When they had the opportunity to show them actually bonding as a couple(the week Aaron spent alone with Rob in Home Farm) they didn't bother to show it. When they(and other couples like Kirin/Vanessa, Leyla/Jai, Pete/Debbie, Victoria/Adam etc) start throwing the 'I love yous' about, after being together for a couple of episodes, it doesn't really mean anything and as you say, it's hard to get invested.”

The thing is without seeing them bond as an actual couple we're left with explosive sensational plot-lines instead of character driven drama. Look at the build up to David and Alicia getting together, that was excellently written and they were many a fans favourite soap couple because of the time that was spent on it.

I don't need popcorn t.v every night, the believable build up of at least one relationship would be a step in the right direction.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, a few episodes full of nothing would really go a long way. I don't think a big event happening every episode is particularly necessary and would go so far as to say this is the cause of the falling ratings of soap as there is a disconnect with some storylines.

Perhaps I am just taking soaps too seriously.
80's Gal
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Well let's hope so but then it seems even more random and bizarre to even include it. I hope, like Star, that it makes more sense on screen.



The thing is without seeing them bond as an actual couple we're left with explosive sensational plot-lines instead of character driven drama. Look at the build up to David and Alicia getting together, that was excellently written and they were many a fans favourite soap couple because of the time that was spent on it.

I don't need popcorn t.v every night, the believable build up of at least one relationship would be a step in the right direction.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, a few episodes full of nothing would really go a long way. I don't think a big event happening every episode is particularly necessary and would go so far as to say this is the cause of the falling ratings of soap as there is a disconnect with some storylines.

Perhaps I am just taking soaps too seriously. ”

That's one of the biggest problems with ED at the moment. There is no character development. The random couple generator spins constantly, it's all so rushed and plot rather than character driven. We get characters who have only shared one or two scenes suddenly bunking up together. We hardly ever see a relationship building, everyone just jumps Into bed with each other, and God forbid if they ever have an argument because that is licence to go off and cheat with someone else .

Tbh I think us viewers know the characters better than the scriptwriters and it drives me barmy when I see some of the random stuff that they have the characters do - all in the name of the storyline. They completely forget the backstory, rewrite the past and hope the viewers won't notice

It's lazy writing IMO
Crooked Heart
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by hypergreenfrog:
“I guess it's mostly down to scenes showing couples slowly bonding don't make exciting TV drama. If there's no immediate drama/action/danger, then it's not good for the ratings.

That said, I personally would much prefer to see relationships grow and last a while. Then any affair or cheating would at least have some emotional impact, and a fall out might seem more believable.”

I agree

It's hard for them to get a balance but I do think it puts a lot of viewers off the way they treat some couples and characters. For instance, the way they put together then immediately broke up Finn and Darren; it was woeful!
samcains90
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by 80's Gal:
“That's one of the biggest problems with ED at the moment. There is no character development. The random couple generator spins constantly, it's all so rushed and plot rather than character driven. We get characters who have only shared one or two scenes suddenly bunking up together. We hardly ever see a relationship building, everyone just jumps Into bed with each other, and God forbid if they ever have an argument because that is licence to go off and cheat with someone else .

Tbh I think us viewers know the characters better than the scriptwriters and it drives me barmy when I see some of the random stuff that they have the characters do - all in the name of the storyline. They completely forget the backstory, rewrite the past and hope the viewers won't notice

It's lazy writing IMO ”

At least it's not just me.

Some of the storylines have been really fantastic and Emmerdale has been really great - the Laurel alcoholism and Alicia's assault being the standouts. But it's the bits between these excellent pieces of drama that need fixing and you're right sometimes I feel like I know the characters better.

It's just one problem which, if fixed, would make Emmerdale really excellent.

Edit: And when they do provide character development *cough*Robbie*cough* they end up killing them off. After all those months of hard work. Unless it's Kerry.
Crooked Heart
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by 80's Gal:
“That's one of the biggest problems with ED at the moment. There is no character development. The random couple generator spins constantly, it's all so rushed and plot rather than character driven. We get characters who have only shared one or two scenes suddenly bunking up together. We hardly ever see a relationship building, everyone just jumps Into bed with each other, and God forbid if they ever have an argument because that is licence to go off and cheat with someone else .

Tbh I think us viewers know the characters better than the scriptwriters and ★★it drives me barmy★★ when I see some of the random stuff that they have the characters do - all in the name of the storyline. They completely forget the backstory, rewrite the past and hope the viewers won't notice

It's lazy writing IMO ”

★★...★★ You're not alone
Crooked Heart
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“★★At least it's not just me.★★

Some of the storylines have been really fantastic and Emmerdale has been really great - the Laurel alcoholism and Alicia's assault being the standouts. But it's the bits between these excellent pieces of drama that need fixing and you're right sometimes I feel like I know the characters better.

It's just one problem which, if fixed, would make Emmerdale really excellent.”

★★...★★: Not at all. Count me in!
craig_25
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“At least it's not just me.

Some of the storylines have been really fantastic and Emmerdale has been really great - the Laurel alcoholism and Alicia's assault being the standouts. But it's the bits between these excellent pieces of drama that need fixing and you're right sometimes I feel like I know the characters better.

It's just one problem which, if fixed, would make Emmerdale really excellent.

Edit: And when they do provide character development *cough*Robbie*cough* they end up killing them off. After all those months of hard work. Unless it's Kerry.”

I have to agree here. Emma's ridiculous obsession with James has me hitting the FF button which is surprising given the hopes I had for this character. Gillian Kearney is a wonderful actress but she's wasted on the panto villain they've given us in Emma.
cyrilandshirley
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“I have to agree here. Emma's ridiculous obsession with James has me hitting the FF button which is surprising given the hopes I had for this character. Gillian Kearney is a wonderful actress but she's wasted on the panto villain they've given us in Emma.”

Totally agree on the Emma stuff. Gah, I'm so disappointed. I was gagging for her to arrive and tear strips off James, and now she's basically just mooning around after him because she still wants him. She seems like a sad desperate mare, to be honest. A real let-down.

Also agree on the relationships stuff. There's another thread on who your favourite couples on soap are, and although I love Emmerdale and find it really entertaining a lot of the time, I could barely think of a single one, because it just doesn't build or sustain them properly. Mind you, the show has thrown everything it's got at Ross and Debbie, and I still couldn't care less because it feels so forced. Ditto Robert and Aaron.

It's a shame. Don't even get me started on that cack with Finn and Darren.
hypergreenfrog
04-06-2015
Emma really is the least believable of characters at the moment.

And it's even more of a shame, as the story had so much potential.
It happens in real life that children search for their biological parents and end up frustrated and disappointed because they thought their newfound parent would be an instant soul mate, but it turns out they are just a stranger with good intentions, and that's not enough. Such a development would have given both Finn and Emma a decent storyline.

But instead, they gave Finn the useless Darren S/L, and made Emma a one-dimensional villain obsessed with a man she hadn't seen in 20 years. Also, the subplot of her suffocating Ross as a baby was strange. If she really had postnatal depression, it was handled extremely insensitively, and if she just made it up as an excuse, it lead to nothing.
pie-eyed
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“It's a bit random as well. Maybe they both end up completely pie eyed, but we've already had that happen with Vanessa and Adam.”

How dare you!! That is slander. I have NEVER kissed either of these people.
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