He's got speed of thought and quick wit. But intelligence no , an intelligent person knows when to shut up.
Joel and Nick come across as the most intelligent.
Joel and Nick come across as the most intelligent.
Is Marc the current most intelligent housemate?
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Originally Posted by Miss.D:
“That does not mean he is dumb, he knew what insecure is but he was trying to dumb down the answer so that christian understood. Maybe he is not used to doing that.
I have to change the way I speak to very small kids in my job, especially explaining concepts in a simple way and that was a skill that took a while to master. That sounds silly but changing the way you speak for others to understand and rephrasing it it is not easy and does not mean you are thick if you have to think for a moment.
If anything i was shocked that christian did not know what insecure is.”
“That does not mean he is dumb, he knew what insecure is but he was trying to dumb down the answer so that christian understood. Maybe he is not used to doing that.
I have to change the way I speak to very small kids in my job, especially explaining concepts in a simple way and that was a skill that took a while to master. That sounds silly but changing the way you speak for others to understand and rephrasing it it is not easy and does not mean you are thick if you have to think for a moment.
If anything i was shocked that christian did not know what insecure is.”
The day before, Cristian was in the DR talking about how Jade was insecure, so he obviously knew what it meant... a bit strange
Originally Posted by Helen90:
“The day before, Cristian was in the DR talking about how Jade was insecure, so he obviously knew what it meant... a bit strange”
“The day before, Cristian was in the DR talking about how Jade was insecure, so he obviously knew what it meant... a bit strange
”
Obviously Cristian wanted to know what Marc meant by 'insecure', and how that pertained to him. Neither of them didn't know what the dictionary definition might be.
Originally Posted by jp761:
“He's got speed of thought and quick wit. But intelligence no , an intelligent person knows when to shut up.
Joel and Nick come across as the most intelligent.”
“He's got speed of thought and quick wit. But intelligence no , an intelligent person knows when to shut up.
Joel and Nick come across as the most intelligent.”
Yeah, sharp as a tack lobbing his dick out like that, wasn't it? I've never seen wit quite like it.
Originally Posted by Helen90:
“The day before, Cristian was in the DR talking about how Jade was insecure, so he obviously knew what it meant... a bit strange”
“The day before, Cristian was in the DR talking about how Jade was insecure, so he obviously knew what it meant... a bit strange
”
Ahhh! I did not see that. Perhaps he was wondering why does Marc think he is insecure because Marc kept saying it and Christian looked a bit confused, so maybe he was asking him to clarify that. As in, what is insecure about me...
Originally Posted by od hominem:
“Yeah, sharp as a tack lobbing his dick out like that, wasn't it? I've never seen wit quite like it.”
“Yeah, sharp as a tack lobbing his dick out like that, wasn't it? I've never seen wit quite like it.”
I wasn't thinking of his dick while doing that post funny enough
There's many levels to intelligence... knowledge isn't defining of intelligence singularly. Especially exclusive knowledge to a specific field.
Who's the most intelligent? I don't think we've seen enough relating to intelligence to make that determination really.
Who's the most intelligent? I don't think we've seen enough relating to intelligence to make that determination really.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“There's many levels to intelligence... knowledge isn't defining of intelligence singularly. Especially specialized knowledge to a specific field.”
“There's many levels to intelligence... knowledge isn't defining of intelligence singularly. Especially specialized knowledge to a specific field.”
Organic chemistry is a wide-ranging field of study, requiring an understanding of maths and science, evolutionary biology, molecular dynamics, complex systems theory... Knowledge doesn't define intelligence, no, but it certainly requires it. Particularly when the field of study is quite challenging.
Originally Posted by pagingmrherman:
“for someone meant to be very smart Marc didnt know how to explain something so basic as "insecure" to Cristian. He asked the guy who cant spell canoe for the answer.”
“for someone meant to be very smart Marc didnt know how to explain something so basic as "insecure" to Cristian. He asked the guy who cant spell canoe for the answer.”
don't think that shows a lack of intelligence at all. he used the word in the right context just wasn't certain the way to get its meaning across to Cristian.
Now crying over a bee...there might be an argument there but i'd need to know the details to decide
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Organic chemistry is a wide-ranging field of study, requiring an understanding of maths and science, evolutionary biology, molecular dynamics, complex systems theory... Knowledge doesn't define intelligence, no, but it certainly requires it. Particularly when the field of study is quite challenging.”
“Organic chemistry is a wide-ranging field of study, requiring an understanding of maths and science, evolutionary biology, molecular dynamics, complex systems theory... Knowledge doesn't define intelligence, no, but it certainly requires it. Particularly when the field of study is quite challenging.”
In the greater picture of things it's still specific. A discipline of Chemistry. There would be an immense amount of things that a person specializing in that wouldn't know about relatively.
...and yes, as aforementioned knowledge is a level of intelligence i agreed but it's not singularly defined by. Because you're able to memorize and process things, etc.... again in the greater scheme of things isn't some singular defining feat of intelligence.
Evolution is a more clear relating overall picture of intelligence imo.
[And there can be people at the top of their fields in a discipline, or even people with high IQ's that are still very unevolved people which if someone was needed who possessed that specialized knowledge they would be king for a day... but, within the grander universal picture that's another story altogether]
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“In the greater picture of things it's still specific. A discipline of Chemistry. There would be an immense amount of things that a person specializing in that wouldn't know about relatively.
...and yes, as aforementioned knowledge is a level of intelligence i agreed but it's not singularly defined by. Because you're able to memorize and process things, etc.... again in the greater scheme of things isn't some singular defining feat of intelligence.
Evolution is a more clear relating overall picture of intelligence imo.
[And there can be people at the top of their fields in a discipline, or even people with high IQ's that are still very unevolved people which if someone was needed who possessed that specialized knowledge they would be king for a day... but, within the grander universal picture that's another story altogether]”
“In the greater picture of things it's still specific. A discipline of Chemistry. There would be an immense amount of things that a person specializing in that wouldn't know about relatively.
...and yes, as aforementioned knowledge is a level of intelligence i agreed but it's not singularly defined by. Because you're able to memorize and process things, etc.... again in the greater scheme of things isn't some singular defining feat of intelligence.
Evolution is a more clear relating overall picture of intelligence imo.
[And there can be people at the top of their fields in a discipline, or even people with high IQ's that are still very unevolved people which if someone was needed who possessed that specialized knowledge they would be king for a day... but, within the grander universal picture that's another story altogether]”
Are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'?
What does that even mean?
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'? What does that even mean?”
“Are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'?
What does that even mean?”
I'm saying that we don't have enough relative data to properly answer the question, or even approach the question for that matter.
You'll have to find the answers to the other question... seek, and ye shall find as it goes... Evolution is a path in which each person must find in their own time.
Originally Posted by Helen90:
“The day before, Cristian was in the DR talking about how Jade was insecure, so he obviously knew what it meant... a bit strange”
“The day before, Cristian was in the DR talking about how Jade was insecure, so he obviously knew what it meant... a bit strange
”
I thought he was playing dumb or perhaps asking how Marc would define insecurity, within the context of what they were saying.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“I'm saying that we don't have enough relative data to properly answer the question, or even approach the question for that matter.
You'll have to find the answers to the other question... seek, and ye shall find as it goes.”
“I'm saying that we don't have enough relative data to properly answer the question, or even approach the question for that matter.
You'll have to find the answers to the other question... seek, and ye shall find as it goes.”
My first question was, are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'? (Enough relative data notwithstanding.)
My second question was, what did you mean by 'unevolved'? (Only you can answer that.)
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'? What does that even mean?”
“Are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'?
What does that even mean?”
I think, essentially, she is saying that you aren't necessarily intelligent in a rounded way if you have a degree in a specific area. I think
I know many stupid people with degrees myself!
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I think, essentially, she is saying that you aren't necessarily intelligent in a rounded way if you have a degree in a specific area. I think
I know many stupid people with degrees myself!”
“I think, essentially, she is saying that you aren't necessarily intelligent in a rounded way if you have a degree in a specific area. I think
I know many stupid people with degrees myself!”
Actually, I think it might be a doctorate. And it's in organic chemistry, not sociology or some rubbish!
Originally Posted by griffin5779:
“I'd say yes but nothing to do with his degree..he just seems very sharp, insightful and self aware”
“I'd say yes but nothing to do with his degree..he just seems very sharp, insightful and self aware”
Yeah I agree.
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“My first question was, are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'? (Enough relative data notwithstanding.)
My second question was, what did you mean by 'unevolved'? (Only you can answer that.)”
“My first question was, are you saying that Marc is 'unevolved'? (Enough relative data notwithstanding.)
My second question was, what did you mean by 'unevolved'? (Only you can answer that.)”
I answered both questions, if you're not satisfied with the answers not much i can do about that.
As stated, it's something that a person must find in their own time.. it can't be forced upon someone through primitive explanation. It's something found through personal journey in life.
It would be like a person from current time going back to primitive ages where humanity had just begun it's awakening and explaining things like computers, the stock market, time travel, TVs, cassette-CD, VHS-DVD-Bluray, Lost, the Kardashians, etc.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“I answered both questions, if you're not satisfied with the answers not much i can do about that.
As stated, it's something that a person must find in their own time.. it can't be forced upon someone through primitive explanation. It's something found through personal journey in life.
It would be like a person from current time going back to primitive ages where humanity had just begun it's awakening and explaining things like computers, the stock market, time travel, TVs, cassette-CD, VHS-DVD-Bluray, Lost, the Kardashians, etc.”
“I answered both questions, if you're not satisfied with the answers not much i can do about that.
As stated, it's something that a person must find in their own time.. it can't be forced upon someone through primitive explanation. It's something found through personal journey in life.
It would be like a person from current time going back to primitive ages where humanity had just begun it's awakening and explaining things like computers, the stock market, time travel, TVs, cassette-CD, VHS-DVD-Bluray, Lost, the Kardashians, etc.”
Sorry rach, but I haven't got the foggiest idea what you're talking about!
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“I'm saying that we don't have enough relative data to properly answer the question, or even approach the question for that matter.
You'll have to find the answers to the other question... seek, and ye shall find as it goes... Evolution is a path in which each person must find in their own time.”
“I'm saying that we don't have enough relative data to properly answer the question, or even approach the question for that matter.
You'll have to find the answers to the other question... seek, and ye shall find as it goes... Evolution is a path in which each person must find in their own time.”
This, from the poster who spelled 'couture' as 'kuture' yesterday.
Marc is obviously very intelligent intellectually, and has a high level of emotional intelligence as well. He runs rings around the rest of the house. I think some people don't like that he does that whilst wearing fake tan and making crude jokes, so they refuse to accept it.
There's more than one type of intelligence though...
If you look at "book smart" then I'd say Marc is up there (although a lot of the others are too young to have completed higher education don't forget...)
When it comes to emotional intelligence though, I think he's at the level of a child. He has no long-term appreciation of how his actions will effect his future. Either he wants a corporate career based on his chemistry degree or he wants a showbiz career (and it was the later that Russell Grant suspected after doing his astrology chart)... either way his behaviour is all about short-term gratification. Would YOU want to work with, or manage Marc - I certainly would not after what I've seen on BB.
He reminds me a lot of Benedict and Caroline (she of the mad hair) in that they both thought they were clever enough to take on BB and use them to further their media career... and BB spat them both out and sent them back to their life when the show was over.
He disgusts me, the only other emotion I have for him is pity.
If you look at "book smart" then I'd say Marc is up there (although a lot of the others are too young to have completed higher education don't forget...)
When it comes to emotional intelligence though, I think he's at the level of a child. He has no long-term appreciation of how his actions will effect his future. Either he wants a corporate career based on his chemistry degree or he wants a showbiz career (and it was the later that Russell Grant suspected after doing his astrology chart)... either way his behaviour is all about short-term gratification. Would YOU want to work with, or manage Marc - I certainly would not after what I've seen on BB.
He reminds me a lot of Benedict and Caroline (she of the mad hair) in that they both thought they were clever enough to take on BB and use them to further their media career... and BB spat them both out and sent them back to their life when the show was over.
He disgusts me, the only other emotion I have for him is pity.
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“This, from the poster who spelled 'couture' as 'kuture' yesterday.”
“This, from the poster who spelled 'couture' as 'kuture' yesterday.”
Actually, i spelled it "kotur" as i was thinking of Kotur handbags... nevertheless, i also put high fashion with it and so the intention was clearly received it's not like i didn't know what i was trying to say in high fashion i simply didn't spell one word correctly.
I don't know what not spelling one word relating to fashion would even imply or cause to mean though ...
Not knowing everything is sort of the point or at least a main point, “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" / "The first step on the path to wisdom is understanding that you don't know".... something like that.
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