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Results:How much do you love Dr S'Avage from a scale of 0-10?
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8 (25.81%)
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0 (0%)
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1 (3.23%)
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3 (9.68%)
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4 (12.90%)
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10 (32.26%)
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Hollyoaks E4 Daily 03/06/15: The wonderful, sexy Dr S'Avage turns detective
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srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cfc86:
“Evening all

**** off Sinead
**** off Scott
**** off Ste
**** off Pete
**** off Cameron
**** off Lockie

As for the poll. Snuggles is a big fat 1000000000. That man is the hottest man alive. Fruit Loops has no idea how lucky she is.”

Cheeeeewwwwwyyyyy!
DJ Jimmy
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“Snuggles is so sexy when he's angry ”

But he made my Celine cry
cfc86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“Snuggles is so sexy when he's angry ”

I just want to rip his clothes off and ravish him right there. Celine can join in
cfc86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“Cheeeeewwwwwyyyyy!”

Daffy!!!!!!!!! How are you?
srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“**** me this is a new low! Sinead's daughter died, she was ACCUSED OF LYING ABOUT IT FOR ATTENTION, and now she really IS lying that her surviving daughter is ill just to get Ste's attention! ”

It is. ****ing disgusting.
lollipop1995
03-06-2015
I definitely think it's now obvious that Cleo and Pete have some sort of Whitney/Tony esque thing going on. Pete makes me sick So creepy tonight. I have a feeling little comments to Celine is also how her eating disorder started.


Wonder what Pete meant when he talked to Cleo about Harry being her first serious boyfriend and her seeming confused. I remember Cleo getting upset at a party and a scene with Holly led us to believe she was a virgin,etc...and no experience with boys. However after tonight I'm thinking Pete could have sexually abused her This will probably be how it turns out if it follows the Tony storyline..How old would Cleo have been when Pete was on the scene initially?
Emma_Henvey
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“Can't believe Porsche would pretend to be lying, leaving her little sister with Creepy Pete.”

To be honest, I don't really blame her. She probably feels that no matter how much she protests against Pete, her family will always take his side and refuse to believe her. Her family keeping telling her she needs to let it go, it was a mistake and she should forgive Pete. She probably said she made it up to make it all go away.
srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by constantino_chr:
“I thought Cleo was supposed to be a feminist AND intelligent.

Sigh.”

So did I. Lol that idea now...
seventhwave
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“Can't believe Porsche would pretend to be lying, leaving her little sister with Creepy Pete.”

I don't think she's anticipated Cleo is in danger from Pete. She believes that she's the only one he abused and that Celine and Cleo have a normal relationship with him. It apparently has not occurred to her that Cleo might be more attractive to him as a teenager than she was as a small child
srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cfc86:
“As for Cleo and Pete. I'm still going with them having some kind of relationship ala Whitney and Tony EE. With calling her his special girl and touching her but she's not pulling away or questioning it. He's obviously preyed on her when she was little and convinced her they have something but she has keep quiet as nobody would understand. Definitely some kind of weird relationship thing going on.”

Yep, you're dead on. Well I'd be very surprised if not.
srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cfc86:
“Daffy!!!!!!!!! How are you?”


I'm not bad ta, how are you?
cfc86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by lollipop1995:
“I definitely think it's now obvious that Cleo and Pete have some sort of Whitney/Tony esque thing going on. Pete makes me sick So creepy tonight. I have a feeling little comments to Celine is also how her eating disorder started.


Wonder what Pete meant when he talked to Cleo about Harry being her first serious boyfriend and her seeming confused. I remember Cleo getting upset at a party and a scene with Holly led us to believe she was a virgin,etc...and no experience with boys. However after tonight I'm thinking Pete could have sexually abused her This will probably be how it turns out if it follows the Tony storyline..How old would Cleo have been when Pete was on the scene initially?”

This is what I've been thinking since last night's episode. I remember Sam saying this storyline was done before on a soap and after the scenes with Pete and Cleo I'm thinking he meant EE.

She's 15/16 now I think. When was Pete around?
srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“To be honest, I don't really blame her. She probably feels that no matter how much she protests against Pete, her family will always take his side and refuse to believe her. Her family keeping telling her she needs to let it go, it was a mistake and she should forgive Pete. She probably said she made it up to make it all go away.”

Maybe she also thinks that since Cleo is so strenuously denying that Pete could have done anything, that Pete had ever done anything to Cleo or was ever likely to. It makes me feel a tad sick to type it, but maybe Cleo's now too old for Pete...
Emma_Henvey
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“It really was, surely JP of all people would be able to see that.
Poor Porsche. It's no wonder she buckled under all that opposition, but it's frustrating to watch. Lockie's hardly supporting her properly, he's a trivial, silly, shallow little man who lacks the depth and emotional maturity to deal with such an issue.”

I agree. JP's reaction was completely unrealistic. I don't mind some characters reacting like the McQueen's - accusing her of overreacting, lying or saying she needs to forgive him. Unfortunately some people are quite naive and ignorant when it comes to this subject. I wouldn't mind people turning against Porsche - as horrible as that is - if it was done in a realistic matter. But so far the way it has been done is totally contrived. It's very frustrating to watch. I find it hard to believe that her whole family would turn against her like that. Mercedes, Celine and JP have especially shocked me. You would think JP having been through a similar thing he would notice the obvious signs that Porsche was lying when she said she made it up. I'm still expecting some twist to explain why Celine was so firmly on Pete's side, it's seems way out of character for her to turn against Porsche like that. Especially as they seemed so close
seventhwave
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cfc86:
“This is what I've been thinking since last night's episode. I remember Sam saying this storyline was done before on a soap and after the scenes with Pete and Cleo I'm thinking he meant EE.

She's 15/16 now I think. When was Pete around?”

She's taking A-Levels, so she's probably closer to 17/18. Porsche is now 26, and Pete abused her when she was 15, which means Cleo was only around 6/7 at that time
cfc86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“Yep, you're dead on. Well I'd be very surprised if not.”

It's got to be going that route surely? He wormed his way in by acting like her friend instead of a father figure, probably bought her gifts and told her how pretty she is, she's his favourite etc before winning her over. Then he abused her but to her it was normal and he convinced her they are in a relationship and he loves her but told her to keep quiet as nobody would understand and it would hurt Reenie if she said anything.

He's a creep but the actor is very good so far.

Originally Posted by srhgts:
“
I'm not bad ta, how are you?”

I'm doing great. Sore but after yesterday I can't stop smiling and despite the pain feeling great
Marianne_321
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“Exactly! It was clearly obvious that she only said she made it up so she could tell Reenie what she wanted to hear. Not only have her sisters turned against her but now JP! I think Lockie is the only one on her side ”

JP took Porsche to one side after she said she did lead Pete on & JP gently asked her to tell him the truth. Unfortunately, she choose not to. It's such a shame as he would have stood by her side if she had.
cfc86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“She's taking A-Levels, so she's probably closer to 17/18. Porsche is now 26, and Pete abused her when she was 15, which means Cleo was only around 6/7 at that time”

I thought Porsche said there was 10 years between her and Cleo though Hollyoaks could have changed ages again.

It's possible Pete didn't abuse all 3 at the same time. Did Reenie kick him out after he abused Porsche? If not it's possible he went after Cleo a year or so after.
Marianne_321
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“Snuggles is so manly”

Yes he is!!! He's a dreamboat!!!
Marianne_321
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by DJ Jimmy:
“Evening everyone

I had the beginning on pause for 5 minutes. Thankfully it was enough to skip the Ste / Scott / Sinead white scenes. I had a difficult choice on whether to skip the Cameron and Celine scene though. I watched it, the positive outweighed the negative

I've run out of pause now

**** off Scott
**** off Sinead
**** off Ste”

Thank you for that analysis Wonky. It's greatly appreciated!!! LOL
srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“I agree. JP's reaction was completely unrealistic. I don't mind some characters reacting like the McQueen's - accusing her of overreacting, lying or saying she needs to forgive him. Unfortunately some people are quite naive and ignorant when it comes to this subject. I wouldn't mind people turning against Porsche - as horrible as that is - if it was done in a realistic matter. But so far the way it has been done is totally contrived. It's very frustrating to watch. I find it hard to believe that her whole family would turn against her like that. Mercedes, Celine and JP have especially shocked me. You would think JP having been through a similar thing he would notice the obvious signs that Porsche was lying when she said she made it up. I'm still expecting some twist to explain why Celine was so firmly on Pete's side, it's seems way out of character for her to turn against Porsche like that. Especially as they seemed so close ”

Agree completely. Some disbelief to make it more dramatic or whatever (as if it's not a dramatic enough thing) would be ok, but from everyone? Really? When she's loved and popular with her family and has looked after/mothered her sisters for years... It's not like she's untrustworthy or known as a liar or anything. Not that liars couldn't be abused the same as anyone else, of course.
srhgts
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by cfc86:
“It's got to be going that route surely? He wormed his way in by acting like her friend instead of a father figure, probably bought her gifts and told her how pretty she is, she's his favourite etc before winning her over. Then he abused her but to her it was normal and he convinced her they are in a relationship and he loves her but told her to keep quiet as nobody would understand and it would hurt Reenie if she said anything.

He's a creep but the actor is very good so far.



I'm doing great. Sore but after yesterday I can't stop smiling and despite the pain feeling great ”


Definitely seems so. Aye exactly, very Tony-esque.

Yeah, he's decent.


Awww, good. I mean not the pain, obviously. HB or something else? Or both?

I've still got my grotty salty taste thing going on, so I'm struggling to eat/drink much, so getting a bit dehydrated and getting headaches as a result… blah.
DJ Jimmy
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Marianne_321:
“Thank you for that analysis Wonky. It's greatly appreciated!!! LOL ”

No problem Madness.

I'm not happy with Porsche now denying everything. But as we all know Kirkwood loves dragging out a story

Hopefully her seeing sense and going to the police will happen before anything happens to Celine or Cleo.
Marianne_321
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by mrchimp:
“Hmm. So Jon Paul would have no problem with one of his 15 year old students kissing a grown man in a position of trust with them?”

Hey, I think JP's getting too much flak for this. He was willing to be there 100% for Porsche (when her mother & sister's were not) unfortunately Porsche lied to him.

JP did have a problem with Pete kissing a 15 year old & told him that he did even though he sadly made peace with him at the end.

I wish Porsche had stuck to her guns & not denied her abuse!!! She's only made it worse for herself!!!
NoughtiesMusic
03-06-2015
Yes, for some reason I too saw some early similarities in that Cleo/Pete scene with Whitney/Tony in EE.
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