I'm the richest man in Massachusetts.
Grape Mentats + ridiculous amounts of expendable gear & excess water = money.

Murkwater is down in the South-central part of the map. In the marshes. It's a dingey, depressing place.


I'd say it's pretty accurate. It's not often I think, 'Where's that time come from?'


I did think it was to do with how many people were at each settlement at first. But I can have at least 22 people at each settlement and some places don't have anywhere near that and I still can't send people to them.

Well, I encountered a rather worrying problem last night...

I started the "Silver Shroud" quests and upon entering the first alleyway... my PC just re-started.

Tried the same thing 2 or 3 times and every time I reach the exact same place in the alleyway my PC re-boots.

Tried leaving Goodneighbor, wandering around and then going back in and the same thing happens when I reach the EXACT same place in the alleyway.

I then tried re-loading the automatic save-game that was created when I entered Goodneighbor BEFORE I started the quest and I can quite happily walk along that alleyway with no problems at all but then, once I start the Silver Shroud quest, entering the alleyway causes my PC to re-boot.

I did a google search and I see that F4 causing people's PCs to restart is a fairly common problem and the advice offered is always "It's probably a sign of a hardware fault with your PC" and people are being advised to replace their PSU or memory to solve the problem.
That seems rather unlikely to me, given the circumstances.

Well when I did Covenant quest I had Deacon with me and was just starting the railroad quests so that kind of decided their fate for me as I did not want to upset him.

So I was left with the problem of removing the turrets and beds, etc which I found was pretty easy in the end as I just needed to hold down A (Xbone, think its B on PS4) to select them, then plonk them on a bit of wooden floor and then scrap the floor (thanks Youtube). There is still some junk I cant remove but it worked quite well

Even that's not set in stone as I have 2 settlements with 33 and 38 settlers in whereas the others stick to my charisma limit of 18. Starlight in particular seems to attract hoards of them that I have to send to other settlements as I'm fed up of building beds for them!

That sounds too specific for a hardware fault. Have you tried varying things, like don't take a companion, wear different armour/weapons, etc. I'm just thinking it is obviously triggering some code that your PC does not like, so try and force it down a different route.

When I did that quest on XBone I remember restarting it as I had previously killed some thugs down that ally and I thought it might interfere with it.

Other than that I would suggest to leave that quest for a while, maybe do the other one that involves the Mind Machines first.

That's what I was thinking too.

I've collected various magazines and bobbleheads (I haven't really been keeping score) but I haven't really "worked on" my charisma so I think it's around 7 or 8 and yet I've got 25 people at The Castle and similar numbers at a couple of other places too.

Oddly enough, the Starlight Drive-In is one of my popular settlements too.
I ended up turning it into a sort of "caravan park" with rows of pre-fab metal shelters, a water purifier stuck in that crater in the middle and a bunch of crops in the soil at the end.

As for the issue with not being able to send people to various places, even if the game WAS preventing people from bedding-down in a specific settlement, that wouldn't explain why the same problem seems to occur with supply routes too - some settlements just WON'T accept any new supply routes to them.

There's got to be some other reason why the game is deciding that some settlements are should be "annexed".

Incidentally, in another settlement related surprise, I was tinkering around in The Castle and I got a message saying something like "Nothing more can be built here".

That seemed a bit odd to me.
I haven't REALLY gone crazy building things in The Castle.
I fixed the walls using about 20 of the "floor with foundation" tiles, It's got 35 beds (with a current occupancy of 33 people), 6 market stalls, various odds and ends of furniture, 8 gun turrets and the artillery placements.

I'm not sure if there's some hard limit on the amount of objects you can build at a settlement or if there's something else (lack of power or lack of some other facility) that's stopping me from doing any more building there.


I haven't really looked too hard at it.

The first thing I did was run a temperature monitor program after the re-starts to see if anything (CPU, GPU etc) was running hot but it was all okay.

I deliberately walked around outside Goodneighbor for a while because that environment is fairly complex so I thought it'd probably cause a similar problem if there was one but it was all perfectly stable and, as I said, going into the same alleyway BEFORE accepting the quest doesn't cause a re-boot.

It definitely seems like there's something awry with the quest which is, perhaps, corrupting the computer's memory and causing the re-boots.

For the moment I'm just going to forget about it and get on with other things.
It's a bit irritating, though, because the Silver Shroud kit remains stuck in the inventory until you finish the quest.

You can craft upgrades to weapons. If you find a weapon with an upgrade you want, crafting a downgrade will place the upgrade in your inventory. You can then apply it to another weapon. The main caveat is that the weapons need to be similar. Both pistols, or whatever. I think I read somewhere that the perk level you need to transfer a suppressor like that is less than what you need to craft one from scratch.

I think you misunderstand.

I was referring to the "perks" that various legendary items have rather than the mechanical components of an item.

In Skyrim you could take a sword and upgrade it mechanically at a blacksmith's workbench. That's similar to what you can do in Fallout 4.
You could ALSO take an enchanted item to an enchantment table and de-enchant it (destroying it in the process) to learn the enchantment and then apply it to other items.
There's no equivalent to THAT mechanic in Fallout 4.

Sorry for any confusion if I was unclear.

I did the same to fill in the holes and added loads of beds, decorations, then got the same message. There is a size indicator in the top right hand corner when in build mode. When that is full you can't build anymore unless you remove something.

Apparently there is a work-around where you drop items on the ground (junk, weapons, apparel) and then store them in the workshop via build mode and that adds to your max build size. I have not tried that yet. However, as you are on PC there is probably a console command you can use.

I just discovered the train-wreck that is the way Paladin Danse is put together in the game.

Captain Kell awarded me a special T60 Torso which over-encumbered me so I gave it to Danse to carry and then I thought he might as well wear it.
And then, when I took it off him again, it left his torso unarmored.

And then I had the bright idea of replacing ALL of Danse's armor with a set of X01 armor I had knocking around, only to find that despite his inventory being completely empty he couldn't actually CARRY an entire suit of power armor.
And then, when I took it off him again, it left his entire body unarmored.

I can see why they've built him that way.
Power armor takes damage and they didn't want to have a character who the player constantly needs to be "repairing" so they gave Danse a set of "indestructible" armor but then they ALSO didn't want the player to be able to equip him with normal armor and then take his "indestructible" armor off him in the way that you can take Piper's leather coat or Garvey's Minuteman outfit when you give them new clothes.

Of course, having gone ahead with that, you'd think they would have checked that he DID actually equip his own armor again after the player has taken away an alternative item.

In the end I had to go into the console to restore his own armor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comment...wer_armor_bug/

If you're playing on the PS4 or XBox, I guess you really, REALLY, don't want to try swapping around Danse's armour or you'll mess him up permanently.

Woah, thanks for that, I haven't played much with him so now I know just to leave his gear alone

I don't have miuch knowledge of these things but I do recall that when I was playing Quake 2 on PC (back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth etc) there was one bit of the game that always caused a freeze or crash. It didn't seem to be a particularly taxing bit, it was just as I entered the end of a sewer pipe. It turned out that in my quest for max performance I had overclocked my Voodoo Graphics card by a bit too much. Turning it down a bit completely cured the problem.
Are you running your graphics card a bit near its limit?

He still has his armour for me on PS4 and yet it isn't in his inventory. He does not, however, have any of his BOS undergarments or BOS hood, which I had taken off him and tried to re-equip him with.

I noticed that you couldn't give get him to wear his BOS uniform again if you took it off him.
Hopefully his power-armor is a good fit and there isn't too much chafing.

Are you saying that you've actually got him to equip alternative armor and then, after you take it off him again, he's re-equipped his own armor?

During my last play-through I ended-up having to kill Danse and I was a little disappointed to find that his armor didn't show up in his inventory so I couldn't take it as a "trophy".
That didn't really bother me too much though.
It seemed as though they'd just "designed" Danse with the armor as part of his model.

When you look into it more deeply, though, it seem like a really clumsy way to go about it - making danse a "normal" NPC with a normal carry-capacity and then giving him a suit of indestructable armor but then locking it to him and making it invisible and then, finally, screwing up the AI so he doesn't always re-equip it after he's given an alternative.

Surely it would have been simpler just to create him as a character with the same base-damage as the armor would provide, giving him the carry-capacity of an armor-clad human and just make the armor cosmetic?

The only "issue" there would be that he wouldn't be able to equip alternative armor but that could be explained by saying he refuses to wear anything other than his BOS armor.
Hell, it's not like it's particularly useful to be able to equip him with other armor anyway because it's not going to make a lot of difference in a fight and it eats up almost ALL his carry capacity.

Oddly enough, that seems to be exactly what they've done with Nick Valentine - who just refuses to equip any armor or clothing other than his default clothing.

Having said that, it occurs to me that I don't know what'll happen if I try to pickpocket his regular clothes.
I shall have to find him and see what happens.


Meanwhile, does anybody know if the Brahmin that spawn in every settlement are actually good for anything?

They can end up being a real nuisance in smaller settlements such as Hangman's Alley and Jamaica Plain when they end up blocking staircases or narrow passageways.

I've even tried waiting until everybody is asleep and ninja-killing them but the bloody things just respawn as soon as you leave the area.

Apparently, Brahmin produce fertilizer that's added to your workshop.

I can't buy/sell with the vendors in my settlement, has anyone else had this problem and fixed it?

I tried some ideas I found online and they didn't work.

I see.

Speaking of adding things to workshops, checking what's stored in a workshop can yield a pleasant surprise.
I find the easiest way to do this is to just "take all" and then immediately "store all junk" and then see what extra stuff has been left in your inventory.

If you've got enough settlement and settlers (and built scavenging stations and allocated people to them) you're probably far enough along that it's not going to be game-changing but when I did this for the first time in 200 days of game-time I found my settlers had found me about 4,000 caps, about 5,000 rounds of various types of ammo (admittedly, mostly .38) and a heap of things like armor and food too.

I thought that was rather good of them.

I wonder if this is all stuff that the game is randomly generating or if they ARE actively looting the bodies of anybody who attacks the settlement and then storing it all in the workshop?


My other little project, at the moment, has been to farm Gunner battles and then use the loot to create my own little militia in each settlement.
Half a dozen settlers in each settlement get a uniform, combat armor, a laser rifle and 200 energy cells with the intention that they'll be better equipped to see off raiders, mutants and other baddies who might attack.

It was quite satisfying to see a mirelurk queen trying to attack my settlement in Murkwater but she couldn't get past my perimeter wall and my militiamen were just stood on top of a walkway blasting away at her until she died.
No help from me required at all.

The one thing that DID occur to me was that there's a slight possibility I might be handing over armor and a laser rifle to a Synth' infiltrator but, from what I've seen, Synth's always start shooting with an Institute weapon so I suppose it wouldn't really matter if I've given them a laser rifle or not.

Sure enough, eventually I got a message saying a settlement is under attack although it was over by the time I arrived.
I examined the pile of ash on the floor and found it contained an army uniform, combat armor, a laser rifle AND a Synth component and an Institute rifle too - so it would appear that I HAVE picked at least one Synth infiltrator to be in my militia although the others seem to have taken care of him easily enough.

At that point, some woman wandered past and said "If any more Synths show up here they'll get the same treatment!", which immediately got her hired as a replacement in my local militia.
I'm sure she won't mind the blood and ash on her second-hand uniform, armor and laser rifle.

There's 2 different possibilities.

If you're trying to buy/sell stuff and you're only getting the "swap stuff with an individual" dialogue then it's probably just that the store is closed.
I've found that store-owners will often still stand at their store (even doing the "shopkeeper" animations) when the shop isn't open, which can be quite confusing.
In that case, you just need to wait until around 10am before trying to buy/sell stuff.

If, on the other hand, a store-owner is just blanking you completely so you're not getting ANY dialogue options at all then that probably IS a bug and every time it's happened to me it's been fixed by either quick-saving/loading or waiting/sleeping for an hour.
After that the dialogue options have been present again.

Are all Preston's missions just saving settlements? He's as bad as Niko's cousin in GTA IV who only ever wanted to go bowling

Well, as I suspected, the USS Constitution quest-line is completely broken for me

As I had said a page or two ago, I was having an issue with the map marker not appearing for a particular mission. The only workaround was to build up my intelligence stats until I could fix the component myself. Unfortunately, the following mission saw the same glitch occur (no map marker) - I have googled the possible locations of the FL33 Turbopump and have been to, cleared, and checked, all of them. It's not there.

Unless anybody can offer me a fix on PS4 (I know there is one for PC using console command), it looks as though it's broken until Bethesda patch it. Which will be never.

Also tremendously frustrated - just started a quest for the Brotherhood which has made the Railroad permanently hostile to me. No dialogue options available to delay or refuse to take the mission, and no foreshadowing what the mission was going to be; just straight into it. Very disappointing.

It's odd that you didn't get a warning about making a faction hostile.

You're definitely SUPPOSED to get a full-screen dialogue-box appear that warns you that your decision will permanently alienate another faction.
Sorry to hear that didn't happen.

I recently commented on how the Silver Shroud quest would force my PC to re-boot when I moved toward a target.

Almost ALL the advice on the internet suggests that's a sign of a hardware fault.

In the end I used the console to enable no-clip mode and then moved up onto a rooftop so I could see my target from a distance through a telescopic sight.
This revealed that the game had spawned 3 NPCs right on top of each other so they looked like 1 person with 3 heads, 6 arms and 6 legs.
I took a shot at one of the heads but that started the other 2 moving and... my PC crashed again.
Next time around I used the console to disable NPC AI and then I could walk right up to the 3-headed, 12-limbed target and then used another console command to remove the 2 henchmen and leave only the actual target.
I then retreated, re-enabled NPC AI and then I could confront the target and complete the mission with no problems.

So, not a problem with my PC after all and all the "experts" who're busy telling people, on Reddit, that a game CANNOT force a re-boot and that it MUST be a hardware fault are talking through their arses.

I tend to be sympathetic toward companies like Bethesda because they are, after all, attempting to create a game that is VASTLY more complex than your average "Call Of Duty" style game but it's easy to say that when you're on a PC and you have access to cheats, consoles and workarounds to resolve problems.

When you're playing on a console a game either needs to work properly or it isn't fit for release.
With the large cross-over between PC and consoles these days, it's only a matter of time before some developer gets sued for releasing a console-version of a game that isn't, in legal terms, "fit for purpose".

You'd think that, as a workaround, they'd at least manage to create a way to enable the in-game console on PS4 and XBox.
If they're worried about people using it to upset rankings on PSN or XBL, surely it'd be possible to simply show when people had used the console in the rankings etc?

A random suggestion for F4 players:-

Once you start doing the BOS missions you will be given some vertibird signal flares and you also have the option to buy more.

Most people realise these can be useful if you stagger away from a session of "dungeon diving" overloaded with loot and call in a vertibird to shuttle you home.

However, I'm not sure how many people are aware that you can redirect them while IN flight.

Just for laughs, call in a vertibird, pick a location at the opposite end of the map, sit back and enjoy the flight and then, just before landing, access the map on your pip-boy and pick a different location then relax and take in the scenery some more.

I wasted almost an hour last night just zig-zagging across the commonwealth by air.
What's more, it's a good idea to have a pen and paper handy because if you fly over any locations that you haven't yet discovered you'll get a message (and the XP) saying you've found a new place.
Jot down any new places that you discover by air and then you can go back and visit them on foot later on.

Finished the main story tonight (it's OK, you can read on, no major story spoilers):

Just wanted to rant at, once again, the game screwing me over in terms of cancelling quests/affecting factions without informing me first. I did the Minutemen mission "Defend the Castle", which is in no way an 'end-game' style mission (it is literally the definition of what it says), yet after completing it, the game failed "Ad Victorium" for the BoS. That is one of the stupidest things I've come across yet; in no way should that mission have any bearing on the Brotherhood. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with them.

Long story short, I am having to go back 3 hours to a previous save file in order to get the Brotherhood ending, which is what I wanted on my first playthrough.

I've loved Fallout 4 but even putting the obvious complexities of the game to one side, there is simply no excuse for some of the glitches and programming errors I've experienced playing through. I've got no less than three glitched quests which are impossible to complete until they are patched, and twice now the game has screwed me over in terms of the impact on other factions without informing me first.

Cool, I never knew that as I don't tend to call the vertibirds. Guess i'll be doing some flying tonight

I think a lot of it is to do with whether or not you do things in the "correct" order or not.

I knew what to expect from a Bethesda game and I realised that a lot of the meat of the game was in the side-quests but, even so, on my first play-through I must've done things in roughly the order that Bethesda intended because I didn't seem to get any of these conflicts.
In fact, the first time I was presented with any kind of dilemma was right before the finale of the game, where I had to decide between the BOS vs the Railroad and then between the Railroad vs the Institute.

In my 2nd play-through, however, I seem to be getting much more of this.
One of the things I didn't see during my first play-through was the storyline related to Danse so my 2nd playthrough involved choices that ensured I got to see Danse's story unfold.
As a result of that, I seem to be finding myself in conflict with other things more often.

For example, in my game's time-line, the Railroad and the BOS have barely had any interaction with each other and yet every time I visit the Prydwen I get Kells hounding me to spearhead an attack on the Railroad HQ and I have to keep ignoring him in order to get on with other quests.

Also, in my previous play-through, the BOS gave me a mission to assassinate the Railroad leadership and, after accepting it, one of my options was to go and tell the Railroad that the BOS wanted them dead.
This time around, as soon as I took the mission I got the message saying "Accepting this mission will permanently make the Railroad your enemy. Are you sure you want to proceed?"

Also, last time around I was doing a "bit of everything" and as a result I seemed to have an endless round of radiant quests from the Minutemen (protect a settlement), the BOS (Squire training & Scribe protection), the Institute (rogue Synth' recovery) and the Railroad (Cache recovery, MILA placement & Courser elimination).
This time around I don't seem to be getting any radiant quests from the Railroad and, in particular, whenever I visit PAM she says "Security lockdown in effect. All communication terminated".

It definitely seems like the Railroad don't "trust" me as much this time around, even though I'd ultimately LIKE to side with them.

I suspect the game has some kind of "affinity" mechanic and if you have a big affinity for one faction it will undermine your credibility with another faction.


Related to all that, it's worth remembering that you don't HAVE to engage in dialogue that might screw-up your game intentions - IF you realise that the dialogue might mess up your plans.

As I said, Kells keeps pestering me to lead an attack on the Railroad and every time I'm near him and the dialogue appears, I just turn away from him until the dialogue vanishes and then move away from him, which leads him to start shouting about how "the briefing isn't complete and I'm being insubordinate".


The one thing I haven't yet done is see Liberty Prime up and running.
I've seen him fully-refurbished, at the airport, but I don't think it's possible to see him walking around without upsetting the Railroad AND the Institute.
I wish there was some way you could let the Railroad get on with rescuing fleeing Synths but also side with the BOS in fighting the Institute.

I've seen a video on the Internet where somebody claims to have resolved the game without making enemies of either the BOS, the Railroad OR the minutemen but I'm not sure how they've managed that because the BOS always want to attack the Railroad before the finale, going along with the BOS's plans will ruin the Railroads plans with regard to helping Synths in the Institute and then there's a fundamental conflict over what happens in the "Nuclear Option" quest.