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Old 21-02-2016, 09:26
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You know the magazines you pick up that give you the stat boosts etc? Do you have to keep them in your inventory to keep the stat boost or can you sell them?
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Old 21-02-2016, 09:57
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I haven't used power armour at all so far, am I missing out?

I haven't touched any of mine since the initial quest where you kill the deathclaw.

Seems like it would make things too easy
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Old 21-02-2016, 09:59
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You know the magazines you pick up that give you the stat boosts etc? Do you have to keep them in your inventory to keep the stat boost or can you sell them?
I store them all in magazine racks back in Sanctuary. You don't have to keep them to keep the stat boost, just picking them up gives it to you. Same goes for bobbleheads.

Someone might want to confirm that before you sell anything though!
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Old 21-02-2016, 11:06
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I haven't used power armour at all so far, am I missing out?
You know the magazines you pick up that give you the stat boosts etc? Do you have to keep them in your inventory to keep the stat boost or can you sell them?
I consider both of those things in a similar way; as trophies.

It can be fun stomping around in the power armor but there's nothing in the game that absolutely requires it.
The only two scenarios that really warrant it's use are if you're exploring the Glowing Sea (where it's useful for avoiding rads and defending against creatures) or if you're considering going up against a boss who's several levels above you.

On my first playthrough I just obediently did everything Garvey asked and ended-up doing the Castle mission very early on.
I was at something like level 10 when I fought the Mirelurk Queen in the Castle and it was an absolutely epic battle which I couldn't have survived without power armor.
On my 2nd playthrough I spent more time exploring, did the Castle mission at around level 20 and killing the Queen was easy.

The only time the power armor becomes seriously useful is if you're playing in Survival mode.
If you're doing that then it can be REALLY useful to have a set of power armor with all the upgrades needed to administer first aid and filter poisons etc, as well as protecting you from a lot of damage of course.


As for the comics, it's READING them that gives you the perk. After that you can keep them, put them on display or sell them.
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Old 21-02-2016, 12:12
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I put my comics on shelves in my Diamond City home to display. Being able to store books on shelves was one of my favourite features from Skyrim I liked.
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Old 21-02-2016, 12:24
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I put my comics on shelves in my Diamond City home to display. Being able to store books on shelves was one of my favourite features from Skyrim I liked.
On that note, I reckon the house in DC is one of the biggest wastes of money in the game.

Because it's a separate area you've got to sit through a loading screen every time you enter or leave it, you can't build anything onto the outside of it and you can't use a BOS vertibird to travel to or from it.

You're far better just building a house somewhere in the Commonwealth, itself.


I was always a bit disappointed with storage in Skyrim.
Unless I'm mistaken you could only store something like half a dozen books on a bookcase, regardless of it's size.
Similar thing with the weapon racks and cabinets.
In the end I just used to store the "reward" weapons in them, as trophies.

And yet, by contrast, you COULD store an unlimited amount of clothing on the display mannequins.
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Old 21-02-2016, 12:36
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I like the Diamond City base because it is my "own" also not got to worry about settlers. I store all my prized possessions there.

Skyrim storage system wasn't perfect but it was nice seeing the book cases full. The glass display cabinets were useless though.
I've spent an unhealthy amount of time trying to place items on shelves in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
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Old 21-02-2016, 12:54
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I like the Diamond City base because it is my "own" also not got to worry about settlers. I store all my prized possessions there.
I don't suppose DC ever gets attacked by raiders or anything either?
That'd be one benefit, I suppose.

Perhaps it's deliberately intended as a nod to the more "traditional" style of gameplay, as found in games like Skyrim of F3?

All else aside, though, it still bugs me that getting to your bed, basically, involves TWO loading screens (one to get to the DC market place and one to get into your house) when, theoretically, you can access a house in the Commonwealth without ever seeing a loading screen - as long as you don't fast-travel to the settlement where your house is.

I must admit, I am probably a bit prejudiced against DC simply because in my first playthrough I took a long time to decide to go there.
I saw how far away from Sanctuary it was and assumed it should be considered as a long-term goal rather than somewhere I should attempt to visit immediately.
By the time I got there I'd already got used to the idea of building houses, creating settlements, growing crops and selling my loot to my own traders etc so DC seemed a bit pointless.
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Old 21-02-2016, 13:43
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All else aside, though, it still bugs me that getting to your bed, basically, involves TWO loading screens (one to get to the DC market place and one to get into your house) when, theoretically, you can access a house in the Commonwealth without ever seeing a loading screen - as long as you don't fast-travel to the settlement where your house is.
That's a tremendously tenuous argument as it presumes every time a player wants to visit their house, they walk possibly the entire length of the commonwealth to get there rather than fast-travelling Any time spent walking that distance would more than offset two loading screens The DC house is only one additional, very short loading screen, and comes with all the perks that have already been mentioned.
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Old 21-02-2016, 15:33
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I placed a welcome mat inside my Diamond City base so I can fast travel straight into it to save time.
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Old 21-02-2016, 16:13
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Nice thanks for the replies about the comics.
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Old 21-02-2016, 17:42
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I placed a welcome mat inside my Diamond City base so I can fast travel straight into it to save time.
Ha! Does that work?

After I bought the house I actually thought I'd be able to fast travel straight to the interior of it by using a welcome mat so I placed the welcome mat and then looked at the map and, for some reason, I got the idea that the existing map icon was to take me to the OUTSIDE of the house and there should be a new icon corresponding to the mat.

And then I think I got distracted by something else and, for some reason, never got around to seeing if it actually worked as intended.

Of course, it means you've still got to go through a loading screen to get outside to make use of the DC traders and you can't go crazy building extensions to the exterior of your house.

Not sure what it's like on consoles but on the PC every loading screen involves clenched buttocks and crossed fingers in case the game decides to get stuck in the loading screen or crash completely so they're not something to be be casually dismissed.
It's been a bit better since the 1.3 patch but the loading screen is still a traumatic time.
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Old 21-02-2016, 19:15
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Yes the mat takes me inside my base. So far there hasn't been any crashes during a loading screen on my PS4 and I fast travel a lot.
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Old 21-02-2016, 23:02
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I haven't used power armour at all so far, am I missing out?
Reduced damage, and mods that can do various things like electrocute melee attackers (not one I would recommend, it has a tendency to zap innocent NPCs).

Trying to go down to Diamond City at lvl 5 and a simple frag mine has blown me to smithereens. Wouldn't happen in power armor.
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Old 22-02-2016, 10:28
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Can't you fast travel straight into your DC house? I thought you could, from anywhere (outdoors) in the Commonwealth? I don't think you need to go to DC first.

It hardly has anything inside so it loads really quickly (relative to anywhere else, anyway). I would use it to store all my junk but for the lack of supply lines there.
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Old 22-02-2016, 12:00
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I've got the that point where I need to decide who to side with - I think I'll be making a save here as I dont know I'd play it four times to see what happens.
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Old 22-02-2016, 12:07
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I've joined the Brotherhood but I've just started a mission where I new to find the Railroad after getting a microchip out of someone's brain. Is it normal to have already joined the Brotherhood at this stage? I've not done any of their missions, only joined them.

I've just been doing loads of side quests & finding new areas rather than progressing in the story
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Old 22-02-2016, 12:30
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I've joined the Brotherhood but I've just started a mission where I new to find the Railroad after getting a microchip out of someone's brain. Is it normal to have already joined the Brotherhood at this stage? I've not done any of their missions, only joined them.

I've just been doing loads of side quests & finding new areas rather than progressing in the story
It really doesn't make any difference to the game you're playing right now.

F4 has a variety of different "things" that can happen depending on what you do for various factions.
You'll never "paint yourself into a corner" by any of the choices you make.
All you'll ever do, at worst, is deny yourself the opportunity to see certain OTHER parts of the game.

If you stick doggedly to one faction and ignore all the others you'll miss out on large chunks of the game but even if you DO try to "spread yourself around", doing as much as possible for as many factions as possible, you'll still make choices that will mean you miss out on other things.

Really, you need to resign yourself to playing through F4 at LEAST 3 times to see the majority of what it has to offer; siding against the Institute (with whichever faction you like) on one playthrough, siding with the institute on another playthrough and then having a thorough look through the internet to see what parts of the game you might have missed and then making a 3rd playthrough where you deliberately make choices with the specific intent of seeing all the stuff you've previously missed.

I'd suggest you just go with whatever you're comfortable with this time around and then take the opportunity to do it all differently next time.
Forget about trying to "see it all" in one playthrough because you'll just end up making decisions that you aren't comfortable with and you won't manage to "see it all" anyway.


More directly, it's a bit odd the way the BOS declare the Railroad AND Synths to be the enemy and the Railroad declare the BOS to be the enemy and yet nobody seems that bothered if you show up at Railroad HQ with Danse OR if you show up on the Prydwen with Curie, Nick Valentine or Deacon.
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Old 22-02-2016, 14:14
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You'd think with charisma high enough you'd be able to convince everyone to just get along, wouldn't you.
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Old 22-02-2016, 15:14
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You'd think with charisma high enough you'd be able to convince everyone to just get along, wouldn't you.
I rather went the opposite way, at the Battle of Bunker Hill, in particular.

Every faction was involved in the fighting so I just killed EVERYBODY to protect the civilians.
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Old 22-02-2016, 21:18
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Is there ever a pint when Preston doesn't want you to help settlements? It feels like I've helped the same ones a couple of times
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Old 22-02-2016, 21:51
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New beta patch:

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Is there ever a pint when Preston doesn't want you to help settlements? It feels like I've helped the same ones a couple of times
Nope
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Old 23-02-2016, 12:05
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Is there ever a pint when Preston doesn't want you to help settlements? It feels like I've helped the same ones a couple of times
That's something that could have benefited from a bit more "polish" too, in my opinion.

I can just about suspend my disbelief enough to accept that supermutants from, say, Salem might have deliberately kidnapped somebody from the Red Rocket truckstop but I find it hard to believe that they're trekking right across the Commonwealth just to raid a settlement on the opposite side of it.

Surely they could have designed the game so that the various "camps" for these raiding-parties were dotted around the Commonwealth and then set it up so that each settlement only gets harassed by raiders/gunners/mutants from a nearby camp?
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Old 25-02-2016, 18:04
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How brutal will the new Survival Mode get? IMO, pretty much by the looks of it!
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Old 25-02-2016, 20:20
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Ouch might be a bit too extreme for me.
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