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[sigh] Marc is this year's chosen one isn't he...
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Scarlett Berry
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Stop with the bully tag FGS. He is not a bully at all. Don't be so ridiculous. Seems people like you label anyone a bully who doesn't conform to your idea of good behaviour.”

Oh okay then. How does a foul mouthed, insulting,intimidating, vulgarian conform to your dictates of behavior then?
this_THAT
03-06-2015
How can you not love marc?
trevor tiger
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by ChynaS:
“I do despair when people go on and on and on about a 'chosen one'.”

It's when a HM they don't like becomes popular
Scarlett Berry
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“It's when a HM they don't like becomes popular ”

Like Helen Wood
SnowStorm86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Perez was more of a bully than Katie was in that series.

Marc's quick apologies are just more manipulation.”

I will believe you the minute he says something like that to Chloe again.
Veri
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by JVS:
“As if Marc doesn't get enough camera time BB have given him the Sgt Major task - proof they are building the show round him. I would have preferred Eileen, Jade or Chloe to shout and scream at the HMs to see if he could take orders from a girl.”

It's more a US college fraternity malicious hazing task than a military one. Like the film Dazed and Confused, but with a fraternity rather than high school.
Veri
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“I will believe you the minute he says something like that to Chloe again.”

I don't care whether you believe me or not.
erin_p
03-06-2015
8.42pm: WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS #BBUKLive http://t.co/Uqclx6dUO0


The guys is a bore
Veri
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“It's when a HM they don't like becomes popular ”

No, when BB favours them.
trevor tiger
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Remember when Katie Hopkins told Perez Hilton that she will make his life a misery until he is evicted? That could be perceived as bullying. I don't think Marc has said anything like that so far. He's made a few tasteless jokes to Chloe on his launch night, which he quickly apologised for. Other than that....”

Yes certainly. She was reprimanded for that because it was perceived as bullying
SnowStorm86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“8.42pm: WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS #BBUKLive http://t.co/Uqclx6dUO0


The guys is a bore”

Calling him boring is fine.

When people call him a bully and refuse to offer proof it seems like straw clutching.
Veri
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Calling him boring is fine.

When people call him a bully and refuse to offer proof it seems like straw clutching.”

Since when do people have to offer proof for their opinions?

There's only rarely proof for anything outside mathematics anyway.
trevor tiger
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Like Helen Wood”

Well there was a little more evidence there with her getting a series long immunity pass. It's hardly unusual for BB to relent on or change these type of things but they stuck by it stoically with her
sorcha_healy27
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Since when do people have to offer proof for their opinions?

There's only rarely proof for anything outside mathematics anyway.”

Calling someone a bully with no evidence is wrong imo
Eve Elle
03-06-2015
#BigMark4TheWin

Bacon&Eggs
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Why don't you just tell us who he is bullying.”

Marc uses Banter as an excuse to intimidate housemates.

Too many more of his intimidatory tactics with Danny, and i'd be happy to say he's bullying Danny.
SnowStorm86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Since when do people have to offer proof for their opinions?

There's only rarely proof for anything outside mathematics anyway.”

People tend to be happy to back up their assertions if it is possible to do so. No one says you HAVE to provide proof of Marc indulging in a sustained campaign of bullying and manipulation. It just smacks of straw clutching if you don't. But as you say, you don't care.
SnowStorm86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“Marc uses Banter as an excuse to intimidate housemates.

Too many more of his intimidatory tactics with Danny, and i'd be happy to say he's bullying Danny.”

Was Danny bullying/intimidating Marc last Friday when he was shouting and getting in his face?

Shall we just agree that everyone is a bully?
sorcha_healy27
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Was Danny bullying/intimidating Marc last Friday when he was shouting and getting in his face?”

Or jack pointing out the laws surrounding harassment despite forgetting to do the same to Aaron.
Bacon&Eggs
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Was Danny bullying/intimidating Marc last Friday when he was shouting and getting in his face?

Shall we just agree that everyone is a bully?”

No, his intentions we're to defend his friends. perhaps by intimidating Marc physically and directly, ok, but his intention was not, to bully.

Plus, i see Bullying as a sustained attack on individuals, and Danny hasn't shown any signs of repeating his behavior of that night.
Veri
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Calling someone a bully with no evidence is wrong imo”

The evidence is in his behaviour in BB.

Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“People tend to be happy to back up their assertions if it is possible to do so. No one says you HAVE to provide proof of Marc indulging in a sustained campaign of bullying and manipulation. It just smacks of straw clutching if you don't. But as you say, you don't care.”

Who said anything about "a sustained campaign of bullying and manipulation"?

You've had to exaggerate the wording because it's too clear that he's a bully.

And it can't be clutching at straws because there's so much else that could be said against him.
SnowStorm86
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Who said anything about "a sustained campaign of bullying and manipulation"?

You've had to exaggerate the wording because it's too clear that he's a bully.

And it can't be clutching at straws because there's so much else that could be said against him.”

So you're saying he isn't indulging in a sustained campaign of bullying and manipulation? Good. That's a start. When you said...

Quote:
“Marc's quick apologies are just more manipulation.”

...it seemed like that was what you were suggesting.
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