Freckled Sky - AGT
That's why this country is a joke as many of the acts that get to the live shows are a joke.
In America you only get somewhere by being really good and if you are not then you are told to move aside for someone who is. Here we just accept 3rd rate and people not from Britain and deceiving voters. And nothing gets done about it.
It's official, we are a joke!
In America you only get somewhere by being really good and if you are not then you are told to move aside for someone who is. Here we just accept 3rd rate and people not from Britain and deceiving voters. And nothing gets done about it.
It's official, we are a joke!
This is great, but to me it is too polished. It's already a finished article and feels totally managed. A LOT of money has gone into this act. If BGT got like this in the preliminary rounds, only the rich could afford to audition.
It's not AGT they should be on, they should be speaking to TV producers as they are already fully professional and at the top of their game. There's just too much money already spent on this act, which suggests they already have backers and investors. What do their investors do if they don't win?
What do you think Old Endeavour you're head of the conspiracy theories on this forum.
It's not AGT they should be on, they should be speaking to TV producers as they are already fully professional and at the top of their game. There's just too much money already spent on this act, which suggests they already have backers and investors. What do their investors do if they don't win?
What do you think Old Endeavour you're head of the conspiracy theories on this forum.
Originally Posted by kleinzach:
“This is great, but to me it is too polished. It's already a finished article and feels totally managed. A LOT of money has gone into this act. If BGT got like this in the preliminary rounds, only the rich could afford to audition.
It's not AGT they should be on, they should be speaking to TV producers as they are already fully professional and at the top of their game. There's just too much money already spent on this act, which suggests they already have backers and investors. What do their investors do if they don't win?
What do you think Old Endeavour you're head of the conspiracy theories on this forum.”
“This is great, but to me it is too polished. It's already a finished article and feels totally managed. A LOT of money has gone into this act. If BGT got like this in the preliminary rounds, only the rich could afford to audition.
It's not AGT they should be on, they should be speaking to TV producers as they are already fully professional and at the top of their game. There's just too much money already spent on this act, which suggests they already have backers and investors. What do their investors do if they don't win?
What do you think Old Endeavour you're head of the conspiracy theories on this forum.”
Kind of agree with this.
Also, just as an aside - would anyone care if, for one segment of the dance, it was shown that a third person was used?
Would it matter? Would it ruin the act? Is the act now suddenly rubbish?
Normally dance acts just give me the shudders (and not in a good way) Diversity and Attraction were notable exceptions this came into the same category.
God they would sooo walk this show! and in the right way. Anyone lurking just hit the link above, 7 minutes of your life that you will be glad to give over.
Thanks OP.
God they would sooo walk this show! and in the right way. Anyone lurking just hit the link above, 7 minutes of your life that you will be glad to give over.
Thanks OP.
Originally Posted by m-river:
“yeah does agt air in the uk anymore? i know i watched it last year on itv2”
“yeah does agt air in the uk anymore? i know i watched it last year on itv2”
Think it was a series or 2 behind had to "ahem" become Arazonian! for a bit to keep on date. Looks like I will be again. Love Howie.
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Originally Posted by kleinzach:
“This is great, but to me it is too polished. It's already a finished article and feels totally managed. A LOT of money has gone into this act. If BGT got like this in the preliminary rounds, only the rich could afford to audition.
It's not AGT they should be on, they should be speaking to TV producers as they are already fully professional and at the top of their game. There's just too much money already spent on this act, which suggests they already have backers and investors. What do their investors do if they don't win?
What do you think Old Endeavour you're head of the conspiracy theories on this forum.”
“This is great, but to me it is too polished. It's already a finished article and feels totally managed. A LOT of money has gone into this act. If BGT got like this in the preliminary rounds, only the rich could afford to audition.
It's not AGT they should be on, they should be speaking to TV producers as they are already fully professional and at the top of their game. There's just too much money already spent on this act, which suggests they already have backers and investors. What do their investors do if they don't win?
What do you think Old Endeavour you're head of the conspiracy theories on this forum.”
The difference is the difference between the American attitude to things and ours.
*Please note that I'm not saying one is better or worse, jut different.
In America you have the fabled 'American Dream' which basically say that you CAN BE anything you want, but you have to put the effort in and strive to always be the very best at whatever you do. So if they find they have a natural talent, skill, leaning or just interest in something, they will practice and practice until it is perfected as second best is not good enough: Be second best in America and someone else will come along and take your job or act. And remember there you have to pay for healthcare and welfare is virtually non-existent. So you have to try to be the best in everything as everyone else is as well and you don't want to be left behind. (So that is both good and very bad at the same time - A culture of doing your best is good, but it also means that being cut-throat and out-doing others to save yourself is all seen as normal in America) So turning up with an act where you set light to your farts, just isn't going to cut it. Everyone else can do that so what are you going to do to be better than everyone else?
Here it is entirely different: A lot of acts want to be the best and even demand to be but are not interested in putting in the required work or have zero basic skill or talent in the act they want to do. It really is the thinking they are just entitled to fame and fortune and don't see why they should put any work in that. We have seen the numerous singers that have turned up to all the types of shows and they basically just can't sing. The worst part after being told that they just can't sing they plead to be put through and not get the connection with being put through and being reasonable. They can't sing or do whatever their act is but still feel that they are first entitled to go on the live shows and win it. That is why the standard of our show is so low.
Add to this that the producers are only interested in making a show and really don't care about the acts at all. So if your act is controversial or makes you look you have a metal condition that can be laughed at, then you are more likely to go further - Yes, here we reward stupidity instead of rewarding talent and skill.
Look how seriously bad The X Factor has become. The live shows are full of people who at best can only just about sing and are often flat all through the song. Whilst out in the real world, there are people in pubs and club who could blow anyone off the X Factor live stage. So the programme isn't looking for anyone with the X Factor, the whole show is looking for someone young and sexy that they can make a pop star out of. They know that their singing can be fixed in the studio so the quality of singing in a singing contest no longer matters. So it all boils down to looks and attitude. That is what is praised in this country over actual talent.
As for the idea that the act above is 'too good' that is thinking as someone from the UK as it's not the American attitude. In America you can't be too good. They are all trying to be the best they can and the one who is, is rewarded for being so. It's the American way. Say to the Americans that this act was too good and you would not be comprehended. It would not compute in their brains. They would ask you "So, what exactly the point in trying to being less than perfect?".
Originally Posted by Old Endeavour:
“The difference is the difference between the American attitude to things and ours.
*Please note that I'm not saying one is better or worse, jut different.
In America you have the fabled 'American Dream' which basically say that you CAN BE anything you want, but you have to put the effort in and strive to always be the very best at whatever you do. So if they find they have a natural talent, skill, leaning or just interest in something, they will practice and practice until it is perfected as second best is not good enough: Be second best in America and someone else will come along and take your job or act. And remember there you have to pay for healthcare and welfare is virtually non-existent. So you have to try to be the best in everything as everyone else is as well and you don't want to be left behind. (So that is both good and very bad at the same time - A culture of doing your best is good, but it also means that being cut-throat and out-doing others to save yourself is all seen as normal in America) So turning up with an act where you set light to your farts, just isn't going to cut it. Everyone else can do that so what are you going to do to be better than everyone else?
Here it is entirely different: A lot of acts want to be the best and even demand to be but are not interested in putting in the required work or have zero basic skill or talent in the act they want to do. It really is the thinking they are just entitled to fame and fortune and don't see why they should put any work in that. We have seen the numerous singers that have turned up to all the types of shows and they basically just can't sing. The worst part after being told that they just can't sing they plead to be put through and not get the connection with being put through and being reasonable. They can't sing or do whatever their act is but still feel that they are first entitled to go on the live shows and win it. That is why the standard of our show is so low.
Add to this that the producers are only interested in making a show and really don't care about the acts at all. So if your act is controversial or makes you look you have a metal condition that can be laughed at, then you are more likely to go further - Yes, here we reward stupidity instead of rewarding talent and skill.
Look how seriously bad The X Factor has become. The live shows are full of people who at best can only just about sing and are often flat all through the song. Whilst out in the real world, there are people in pubs and club who could blow anyone off the X Factor live stage. So the programme isn't looking for anyone with the X Factor, the whole show is looking for someone young and sexy that they can make a pop star out of. They know that their singing can be fixed in the studio so the quality of singing in a singing contest no longer matters. So it all boils down to looks and attitude. That is what is praised in this country over actual talent.
As for the idea that the act above is 'too good' that is thinking as someone from the UK as it's not the American attitude. In America you can't be too good. They are all trying to be the best they can and the one who is, is rewarded for being so. It's the American way. Say to the Americans that this act was too good and you would not be comprehended. It would not compute in their brains. They would ask you "So, what exactly the point in trying to being less than perfect?".”
“The difference is the difference between the American attitude to things and ours.
*Please note that I'm not saying one is better or worse, jut different.
In America you have the fabled 'American Dream' which basically say that you CAN BE anything you want, but you have to put the effort in and strive to always be the very best at whatever you do. So if they find they have a natural talent, skill, leaning or just interest in something, they will practice and practice until it is perfected as second best is not good enough: Be second best in America and someone else will come along and take your job or act. And remember there you have to pay for healthcare and welfare is virtually non-existent. So you have to try to be the best in everything as everyone else is as well and you don't want to be left behind. (So that is both good and very bad at the same time - A culture of doing your best is good, but it also means that being cut-throat and out-doing others to save yourself is all seen as normal in America) So turning up with an act where you set light to your farts, just isn't going to cut it. Everyone else can do that so what are you going to do to be better than everyone else?
Here it is entirely different: A lot of acts want to be the best and even demand to be but are not interested in putting in the required work or have zero basic skill or talent in the act they want to do. It really is the thinking they are just entitled to fame and fortune and don't see why they should put any work in that. We have seen the numerous singers that have turned up to all the types of shows and they basically just can't sing. The worst part after being told that they just can't sing they plead to be put through and not get the connection with being put through and being reasonable. They can't sing or do whatever their act is but still feel that they are first entitled to go on the live shows and win it. That is why the standard of our show is so low.
Add to this that the producers are only interested in making a show and really don't care about the acts at all. So if your act is controversial or makes you look you have a metal condition that can be laughed at, then you are more likely to go further - Yes, here we reward stupidity instead of rewarding talent and skill.
Look how seriously bad The X Factor has become. The live shows are full of people who at best can only just about sing and are often flat all through the song. Whilst out in the real world, there are people in pubs and club who could blow anyone off the X Factor live stage. So the programme isn't looking for anyone with the X Factor, the whole show is looking for someone young and sexy that they can make a pop star out of. They know that their singing can be fixed in the studio so the quality of singing in a singing contest no longer matters. So it all boils down to looks and attitude. That is what is praised in this country over actual talent.
As for the idea that the act above is 'too good' that is thinking as someone from the UK as it's not the American attitude. In America you can't be too good. They are all trying to be the best they can and the one who is, is rewarded for being so. It's the American way. Say to the Americans that this act was too good and you would not be comprehended. It would not compute in their brains. They would ask you "So, what exactly the point in trying to being less than perfect?".”
You don't think that perhaps they were invited to audition? You also make so many assumptions about the Americans.
These shows are meant to be about giving people a step up. If they were to become about production companies coming in and putting a lot of money like has happened here then no one else would stand a chance. This isn't some act coming in and auditioning hoping to get through. This is a production, not an act. For me, this is too much. They have made an investment in order to get a Vegas deal like the second winner of AGT did. They are talented but I can smell the avarice from here. This isn't three people bringing in a show, this is a whole production company, and that is NOT what the show is about.
Originally Posted by kleinzach:
“You don't think that perhaps they were invited to audition? You also make so many assumptions about the Americans.
These shows are meant to be about giving people a step up. If they were to become about production companies coming in and putting a lot of money like has happened here then no one else would stand a chance. This isn't some act coming in and auditioning hoping to get through. This is a production, not an act. For me, this is too much. They have made an investment in order to get a Vegas deal like the second winner of AGT did. They are talented but I can smell the avarice from here. This isn't three people bringing in a show, this is a whole production company, and that is NOT what the show is about.”
“You don't think that perhaps they were invited to audition? You also make so many assumptions about the Americans.
These shows are meant to be about giving people a step up. If they were to become about production companies coming in and putting a lot of money like has happened here then no one else would stand a chance. This isn't some act coming in and auditioning hoping to get through. This is a production, not an act. For me, this is too much. They have made an investment in order to get a Vegas deal like the second winner of AGT did. They are talented but I can smell the avarice from here. This isn't three people bringing in a show, this is a whole production company, and that is NOT what the show is about.”
Now who is making assumptions? Where do it say that is what the programme is about? Many acts they have had on are professional acts that have been doing the rounds for years. This year alone we had the comedy trampoline act (He has been doing that act for years) and the Arata roller skaters who come from a professional circus family that have travelled all around Europe and the USA. Even if they have now changed their name to 'England' to try and hide that fact.
All the show is meant to be about is finding someone with talent to appear on the Royal Variety Show.
As for making assumptions about Americans, I do have many American friends and know first hand their general outlook. I also stated that I was not making comment on whether one way of doing things is better than the other, but they are very different outlooks. Plus just look at the general standard of acts on any American talent show and you will see exactly what I said in action. They are generally of a higher standard and yes we do put through a lot of crap in this country.
Originally Posted by Old Endeavour:
“Now who is making assumptions? Where do it say that is what the programme is about? Many acts they have had on are professional acts that have been doing the rounds for years. This year alone we had the comedy trampoline act (He has been doing that act for years) and the Arata roller skaters who come from a professional circus family that have travelled all around Europe and the USA. Even if they have now changed their name to 'England' to try and hide that fact.
All the show is meant to be about is finding someone with talent to appear on the Royal Variety Show.
As for making assumptions about Americans, I do have many American friends and know first hand their general outlook. I also stated that I was not making comment on whether one way of doing things is better than the other, but they are very different outlooks. Plus just look at the general standard of acts on any American talent show and you will see exactly what I said in action. They are generally of a higher standard and yes we do put through a lot of crap in this country.”
“Now who is making assumptions? Where do it say that is what the programme is about? Many acts they have had on are professional acts that have been doing the rounds for years. This year alone we had the comedy trampoline act (He has been doing that act for years) and the Arata roller skaters who come from a professional circus family that have travelled all around Europe and the USA. Even if they have now changed their name to 'England' to try and hide that fact.
All the show is meant to be about is finding someone with talent to appear on the Royal Variety Show.
As for making assumptions about Americans, I do have many American friends and know first hand their general outlook. I also stated that I was not making comment on whether one way of doing things is better than the other, but they are very different outlooks. Plus just look at the general standard of acts on any American talent show and you will see exactly what I said in action. They are generally of a higher standard and yes we do put through a lot of crap in this country.”
Compare that with what a lot of Americans say about AGT. So many comments about how BGT is better.
I still maintain that this act is a production company. It isn't a talent show act.
I'm sure BGT will have a clone act of this next series, and Simon will act like (and say) he's "never seen anything like this before!"
Originally Posted by kleinzach:
“Compare that with what a lot of Americans say about AGT. So many comments about how BGT is better.
I still maintain that this act is a production company. It isn't a talent show act.”
“Compare that with what a lot of Americans say about AGT. So many comments about how BGT is better.
I still maintain that this act is a production company. It isn't a talent show act.”
Loved the performance, very entertaining indeed but I can see where you're coming from.
The part where Howard Stern said bring out the director was something of a give away that this company were pre known about and already invited. This doesn't detract from the quality or entertainment value but illustrates how these things are largely a showcase for already scouted and discovered acts rather than somebody just showing up and trying their luck.
Yeah I'm loving AGT this season and its only been 3 episodes so far, tbh I always love it as its a million times better.
This is one of my favourite acts so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GY1P51C7x0
This is one of my favourite acts so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GY1P51C7x0
Originally Posted by Old Endeavour:
“That's why this country is a joke as many of the acts that get to the live shows are a joke.
In America you only get somewhere by being really good and if you are not then you are told to move aside for someone who is. Here we just accept 3rd rate and people not from Britain and deceiving voters. And nothing gets done about it!”
“That's why this country is a joke as many of the acts that get to the live shows are a joke.
In America you only get somewhere by being really good and if you are not then you are told to move aside for someone who is. Here we just accept 3rd rate and people not from Britain and deceiving voters. And nothing gets done about it!”
I have to agree with this wholeheardtedy and that's why AGT is the best talent show in the world. Freckled Sky - that is real talent.
Over here you aren't moved aside, you get put into the final anyway!
BGT will never reach the heights of success AGT has achieved because we always put shitty acts through to the semis and finals. That and the fact we can't compete with the Americans.
Originally Posted by m-river:
“yeah does agt air in the uk anymore? i know i watched it last year on itv2”
“yeah does agt air in the uk anymore? i know i watched it last year on itv2”
The last season ITV2 showed of AGT was season 8 last year. They've now lost the rights to the show.
TruTV has picked up the UK rights to America's Got Talent from ITV2 and will premiere with season 10 on Wed 15th July at 8pm. Season 10 started last month in the US.
[quote=Dalekbuster523;78383497]Blimey.
If that was on BGT, it would win easily.[/QUOTE
The dancers are decent dancers. The star, as head judge, Howard Stern, indicated, is the director. Not sure what your point is. BGT, X-Factor are not auditioning directors.
If that was on BGT, it would win easily.[/QUOTE
The dancers are decent dancers. The star, as head judge, Howard Stern, indicated, is the director. Not sure what your point is. BGT, X-Factor are not auditioning directors.
That was beautiful indeed.
It also reminded me of this little video I found on youtube.
Sort of a cross between Diversity and Old Men Grooving. Sort of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxC0CyoXj-M
It also reminded me of this little video I found on youtube.
Sort of a cross between Diversity and Old Men Grooving. Sort of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxC0CyoXj-M
