Yeah, it's the type of person who doesn't really have much going on in terms of being special but they can go to a club and be the center of attention as if they're a star because of having such confidence and belief in themselves... also maybe with a bit of not caring what others think thrown in.

As an extremely shy person myself with little confidence who could never be like that... i do admire it a little bit with how some people can have such confidence and belief and make themselves a star... sort of make their own destiny so to speak.

I've a suspicion that's precisely why cocaine is such a ubiquitous part of the club scene these days - it allows you to cheat that level of confidence and 'swagger' that others seem to exude so naturally.

I'm gratefull to be too old for that nonsense

No idea. He's an awful and disgusting person.

I have to say I have only seen 3 episodes (catching up on youtube) but I really like him. (weirdly after what i just said on the AusBB thread).

He is so good at winding people up but... I don't know I'm enjoying seeing his work.

The person I can't stand is SHOWBIZ!! (if hes still in it) - he's such a fookin martyr, fake, shit stirring little prick!

Marc is a scientist and all of his banter is strictly empirical. He is performing an experiment and making observations according to the facts presented to him.
He has probably accurately measured his manhood in the laboratory to within a micron.

Rex was a WUM, but Rex did it to wind up his fellow HMs because he wanted to leave. I don't think he did it because he wanted the public's attention.


Exactly.


It's a shame that it now seems to be acceptable to dominate the show by being rude, arrogant and contrived and that it's not okay to be a decent, normal person.

Also on a similar note, with Katie Hopkins, when she showed signs of basic human emotion, some of the public seemed to forget all the bad things that she had ever said and now said they liked her, almost as if it completely got rid of the nasty things she had said on Twitter and on TV. The things that these people had disliked about her were still true and win or lose, Katie was always going to still make controversial comments.

My point is, Marc is still going to be rude, crass, arrogant, (etc), even when he might show signs that he might not be all bad.

Because he's full of shite and knows it. Makes fun of himself with the other HMs. Don't take anything too seriously and ins't afraid of making a fool of himself. He's exactly the type of person that should be on BB, I think. I don't like some of the stuff he says - especially to Sam - but I like that the other/original HMs aren't afraid to call him up on it and blast him for it. It's interesting that while Marq is a massive player in the house and has the ability to control everything, the others are still far more free to say what they want than they ever were with the other lot.

People are obviously weak minded or cognitively challenged. Also there have been some pro Marc fans on the celebrity panel and it seems like the stupid presenters want him to do well as well. Have a sneaky suspicion that richard Desmond wants to sign him up which is why he is getting vip treatment.

Well said.
What he says is not meant in a nasty way - thats why the girls (and boys) like him.
Like the cum-bucket remark ;
It was funny because its was said in a completely non malevolent way.
If used in an unpleasant way then it would be reprehensible. But in Marcs instance he was going round the housemates and giving then all a deliberately horrible nickname , it was used in a completely randon without malice way , like it was the first thing that came into his head. I thought it was funny and i thought it was funny in quite an endearing way Sams reaction that she clearly felt like she should object to it but was clearly conflicted and aware of the absurdly humourousness of it as well.

It could be, and would be unpleasant if it was meant in a unpleasant way and possibly those who do find it offensive have had personal issues with this type of thing irl that understandably distorts there perception.
However to those that dont have such issues it is acceptable so long as it is used in a non malicious fashion.

How about calling Chloe fat a number of times ? That one isn't to funny really. Neither is when he told Amelia don't eat you're getting fat.

He's very good at spilling out line after line joke after joke.. 80% are great.. 20% not so great. Whether thats a conscious thing or not is open for debate. I do know of people who do that , mix there nasty comments in among loads of genuinely funny stuff.

Fear.

Number one is whether a hm is liked or not, if the hm is contrived makes little difference. They hit disliked hm's with the contrived stick, and ignore it in liked hm's.

There's a simple way to get around the inconsistency this creates. i.e, argue disingenuously around the fact that their fav hm is contrived. Happens all the time.

I can't really explain why I like him. I hate all that kind of talk. It really makes me cringe. However, for some reason I can't help liking Marc. When he first came in I thought oh no that's it I'm switching off but in spite of myself I found myself warming to him when he wasn't coming out with all that filth and was just being a bit gobby and, yes, honest. I don't necessarily want him to win but I can think of a few I'd less like to win.

But that's double standards. It shouldn't be acceptable for one HM to do something and not someone else.

Like with last night's HL show, where he stripped off naked and covered his bits in foil. It reminded me of BB9's Bex where she would frequently go running round the house showing her boobs. She was slated for it on here, but it seemed to be okay for Marc to do it. Both desperate for attention and airtime, but they're not being treated the same. It is double standards.

How do you know he's honest, since you're presumably not a mind-reader?

Which HMs did you most dislike before Marc came in, btw? I think that's usually a big part of why people like Marc.


I'd say zero % are even good, let alone great.

I think he just uses "jokes" to sugar-coat the nastiness he likes to indulge in.

Thats what i said he mixes some amusing stuff in there to cover up the nasty stuff. And to give him licence as he sees it to say nasty stuff.

But you just think nothing he does and says is funny. Obviously that's fair enough.

I'm not a big fan of his 'banter' but I do think he makes an excellent and very entertaining housemate. And also unlike 90% of them in there he actually has a brain. I actually think he's arguably the most intelligent person in there at the moment... The show would be shite without him

Marc has just finished his university exams in physics and chemistry just before he entered the house. He has been offered a job with a major company in the US, to start in September.
He was in the army for a time and he was in the Irish "reality show" Tallifornia.

He is not a traveller, has a high IQ and I have no idea what his parents are like.

Well that may be rescinded when and if they view his antics in the BB house.

I know I wouldn't touch a candidate like him with a barge pole. Moreove, the AMericans for all their perceived liberal attitudes can be mind numbingly conservative at times.

His comments and use of language towards women is absolutely abhorent to me.

Saying what needs to be said I haven't heard him say anything that actually needs to be said.

Quite. He is utterly repellent.

Yep, uncritical enthusiasm for their champion, critical dissection for their champions rivals.

BB Fanaticism.

Yes when your adopting the dominant role i guess you do have to throw in some element of nasty stuff to underpin your authority when necessary. The dominant character usually dominates with a combination of strategies ranging from freindliness , charisma , humour, charm , bullying , intimidation , threats etc etc On the whole Marc seems to be ruling with a large degree of benevolence and relatively little recourse to stern words . The drunken nastiness is in my interpretation just a calculated reminder that the HMs need to behave cos he always has the capacity to do extreme nasty on any of them just as he has the capacity to do extreme nice/funny as he is showing us daily.
We have a benevolent house leader.

There is some difference between guys who say nasty stuff some what sub consciously mixed in with all the amusing stuff. And those guys who do it on purpose with malice.

Think I've had more laughs then all years since BB9 combined. Don't know why but he reminds me Rex