Deluded. End of...

But people are focusing on the very few things that marc says that are mean.
however consider the relative harmony there has been in the house - the harmony amongst the other housemates. And consider the likely toll in terms of incidental nastiness had marc not been installed as leader. I postulate that the housemates would have spent the last week ripping lumps out of each other had not mark assumed the dominant role.
So on reflection calling Chloe fat, although admittedly nasty could be viewed as a relatively smallprice to pay for peace in the house against the otherwise likely carnage that would have ensued, and Marc does alweays make sure he makes up with Chloe when he does insult her , like a good house guardian would do in caring for his HMs.

Leader? hardly, unless your thinking he'd lead them off the edge of a cliff to grab the loot for himself.

And since he's thinking of himself all that benevolent stuff you talk of is fiction as well.

Some people would call that typical control freak behavior.

Not all leaders are good ones. And calling some one fat then making up for it doesn't really wash to well. It can lead down to the road of oh i'm only 'joking' on a regular basis.

Can be a good excuse for some people to be nasty often , using the i'm joking card.

Agreed . To present i feel that Marcs good quality has vast outweighed his bad side. Hopefully that continues and we continue to get the fun house we have had for the last week.
His popularity seems to suggest that most people feel the same.
If he were to become overwhelmingly unpleasant , bullying , abusive etc etc then i and presumably everyone else who like him at present would instantly turn against him.
People are inclined to like him because they think on the evidence presented that he is a nice , well meaning guy ,

Postulate this. Marc does not care about the other hm's

Simon has the charisma of a rotting corpse, coupled with everyone knowing how many people he owes money to by shorting their paychecks and refusing to make good on it. He reeks of desperation, and he needs that prize money to dig himself out of the hole he's in, much like Jack.

He's entertaining and has a personality unlike some of the others

The support for Marc is still something that completely baffles me. He can do whatever the hell he likes and people just accept it. He has shown many times that he can be nasty, misogynistic and antagonistic. He deliberately provokes the other HMs to get him to lose their temper with him and when they do, he acts all innocent and makes out that he's the victim. He provoked Danny into losing his temper and now Danny is being treated like the bad guy. Yes, Danny shouldn't have reacted like that, but after so much poking and prodding that Marc has done since he entered, I can't blame him.

And the comments that he is entertaining and the others are boring - I find Marc extremely boring. All we see him do is doing whatever he can to get attention. Everything he says and does is for the benefit of the cameras and the viewers. He's constantly looking for airtime. IMO, this "nice side" that he's supposed to have is fake, and he's trying to portray himself to the viewers as someone that can be nice. I don't think there's any other side to him, apart from being a highly irritating, attention seeking idiot. I find him so predictable. And I find that boring.

It's like Katie Hopkins all over again. She behaved appallingly, and yet because there were little signs that showed that she was capable of basic human emotion, some people suddenly decided that she was a good person even though all the things that they hated about her to begin with were fundamentally, still true. She was still a nasty bully with horrible opinions about overweight people, ginger people, Scottish people, (etc). And Marc's still going to be the same misogynistic pig who talks so incredibly crudely about sex, saying that he wants to make Sam painfully cry from the size of his anatomy.

People like Jack get such an unfair deal. He hasn't really been nasty. He's lost his temper a few times, yes, but he's not really nasty. And he gets much worse treatment than Marc.

I can't for the life of me understand it.

Good post. He is faultless in the eyes of his fans, he can do no wrong. It's blind loyalty.

More like Perez all over again, or Jim Davidson.

ABCZYX - I agree, and your point on Jack is spot on for me. I don't get the levels of hate directed his way.

Simply not true. Sweeping generalizations only serve to make your points seem bitter and exaggerated rather than part of a discussion.

Watching the recording and I mistakenly thought the 80's party might be Marc's redemption, that he might actually see the funny side that the others had enjoyed the 80's party whilst he and Sam were in the task room.

Wrong again. Miserable Sid cannot see anything remotely humourous when it is against him. Sam laughed, the others laughed, and he just sat there with a face like a slapped ar*e.

The 'jokes' and banter are OK as long as he is in charge of them. When he is not, we see the true Marc. A miserable killjoy.

FGS just have a genuine laugh man! relax! there is more to life than grasping for the prize all the time.

I referenced Katie Hopkins because people are saying that Marc is a nice guy, even though he'll still be misogynistic, crude, arrogant, (etc). And Katie Hopkins would still have been really nasty and have nasty opinions even after showing "a nicer side".

But I do agree that he's like Jim Davidson. He's playing the same game that Jim did - starting arguments to make someone lose their temper and then claim he's done nothing wrong, making himself look good and the other person look bad.

The lines aren't open yet. If there's some twist that will ensure that Marc is safe yet again, I will NOT be happy.

simply because without Marc in the house it would be failing miserably in the ratings, he has caused friction on housemates that after only a few weeks were settled and "best friends", he ruffled them and so making it interesting, without him it would be boring.