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Marc's brand of 'banter'
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hisdogspot
05-06-2015
Marc walked into the house as the stereotypical muscle-bound-dull as a brush- male bimbo

I think we were all probably taken aback to discover he was an intelligent young man with academic achievements to match his obvious quick wit and agile mind

The op suggests that his level of 'banter' is a poor reflection of all that

Well, let's consider why that might be

Could it be that he is clever enough to know he's on Big Brother, not University Challenge ? and clever enough to know that he needs to use his smarts in a way that meets the requirements of being on a show that generally 'celebrates' thickness and course behaviour ?

We've had two winners who were loved for p*ssing the bed for God's sake !
Fairy Wings
05-06-2015
Marc I think views life as a stage with him the star of the show and everyone else his props.

I find him quite tiresome, good turn but on far too long.
Nesta Robbins
05-06-2015
Marc certainly has a Scholarship in Big Brother and must have studied years of footage to be this good an HM! I'm not doubting this is the real him, but he'd be discerning enough at home to know when to hold back the more extreme behaviour. Not here though - "these are not his friends" so we're getting the all singing, all dancing, all insulting MARC SHOW - centre stage giving the performance of his life!
lon_chaney
05-06-2015
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“I recognize his "banter" as something usually shared between a group of friends where there's been a common acceptance of being comfortable with it.

For example, guys will consistently refer to each other as bitch or gay as a sort of playful messing around. I'm more familiar with it being "messing around" or goofing off than i am with "banter".

The problem with his banter is that it's not very good or clever banter and it's not something you generally do with people that you're not on a certain relationship level with. I can't imagine someone except the most obnoxious jerks going into a house where they don't know anyone that closely and acting like that with them for instance.

You generally develop banter with people over time through relationship in how i see it, what you don't do is simply say anything to someone and have a smile and laugh and call it banter.”

Some of marcs appeal is precisely because he has gone into a house of strangers and done the unimagineable.
Somebody else on the forum (i forget who) said it reminded them of a C5 programme where a person had to take an actor posing as their best freind to have sunday lunch with their parents and the actors role was to be spikey and ott as Marc is.
Its called situational comedy.
Its comedy. Its not real life.
onfencewithrach
05-06-2015
Originally Posted by lon_chaney:
“Some of marcs appeal is precisely because he has gone into a house of strangers and done the unimagineable.
Somebody else on the forum (i forget who) said it reminded them of a C5 programme where a person had to take an actor posing as their best freind to have sunday lunch with their parents and the actors role was to be spikey and ott as Marc is.
Its called situational comedy.
Its comedy. Its not real life.”

It's not the unimaginable, it's something most people don't do because they aren't obnoxious jerks and delusional. People still do stuff like that all the time in real life... Marc's not something special or one of a kind, you will find people like him all over colleges getting drunk, or party spots acting like an idiot even moreso. I mean his show is a spinoff of a spinoff.... People have been acting like this for years.

It's not real life technically being a surreal environment and situation but it still involves real people and simulates real life in the context of people living together 24/7 and interacting with each other as such. There's a balance to be reached of entertainment and understanding these are real people living together and not characters in my opinion. There's also supposed to be some commentary/observational analysis on society through this smaller scale experience in how i see it. I don't like the idea of trying to make it out as if it's not real and it's just a bunch of characters entertaining... it takes away from the entirety which is part of the problem in what's happening. Marc can do anything and everything in the name of entertainment for example which is betraying the larger scale commentary on society with consequences and causality.
Cornchips
05-06-2015
Originally Posted by Helen567:
“He has a certain amount of charisma, which many people don't naturally have. So he is without doubt likeable and very watchable, however his comments about and towards women do let him down massively.”

This for me too. For me it's a deal breaker.

I also see he is doing stuff by the numbers which for me isn't very clever.

I might like him if he was just himself.
viva.espana
05-06-2015
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“Great post, patsy.

I don't like much of Marc's banter, it's so gross and disrespectful, and i loathed him on his first day but it's the other dimensions of his character that have drawn me in. Or rather, the whole paradoxical mess of it. He's incredibly sharp and (I reckon) quite deep but plays at being one dimensional. Hes vicious but also capable of kindness and loyalty. He's arrogant but also self-deprecating and self-aware. He's honest to a fault (literally) and horribly personal but somehow manages to charm his way out of it. He's fearless and shameless but for such an attention seeker, he doesn't seem to give a crap what anyone thinks of him (that lack of fragile ego alone makes him a rarity of a HM.)

I find him incorrigible but really watchable. He might even go down as one of BBs iconic HMs.”

Thanks, Scarlet, you've summed him up perfectly for me.
momoriro
05-06-2015
He's a bully, the HM's are like rabbits caught in headlights too aware of their public image to take him on. Being a stripper he see's the absolute worse side of females so it's no wonder he thinks they are all tarts. He certainly keeps them on their toes with his habit of one minute kicking ass, next kissing up.
It's great TV but in reality he's just an overbearing stripper.
Sunnydays
05-06-2015
He is just a crude wind-up merchant.
Conehead
05-06-2015
From Marc's Big Bumper Book of Banter: "You've got STDs you fat slut!"
(Young women simper and swoon at his feet...)
coke_pepper
05-06-2015
You can pull it apart and analyse it all you like, but he still has more charisma, character and intelligence about him than the rest of them put together. Danny who zzzzz.
pugamo
05-06-2015
Originally Posted by Conehead:
“From Marc's Big Bumper Book of Banter: "You've got STDs you fat slut!"
(Young women simper and swoon at his feet...)”

Yeah except he has the wit not to put it quite like you did.
coke_pepper
05-06-2015
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“Yeah except he has the wit not to put it quite like you did.”

True.
B L Zeebub
05-06-2015
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“Yeah except he has the wit not to put it quite like you did.”

Really?

Can't say I've noticed this wit of his, but it certainly sounds like something he would say.
LMAO
05-06-2015
I agree his humour is very typical Irish, he`s great craic... Though he`s a shameful Irishman that can`t hold his drink!
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