agreed. jane needs to be exposed for what she really is! atleast everyone already knows what ian is like.

Apart from the child Jane shoved into the boot of the car and dumped on the common, then allowed everyone and their auntie to badmouth despite knowing she was trying to make amends the night she was killed, ofc.

She loved Lucy but what was done was done at that point and she decided to protect the young boy who was still alive . She did what she thought was best and hindsight is 20/20 .

Best for who. She left Peter and Ian thinking that Lucy could have been raped and brutally murdered, that she was wandering around upset and angry because of them. She did it for herself, because she didn't want to lose her son, and blow everyone else.

Any reasonable person would go to a hospital. Jane said herself she had the choice and chose not to. The woman is well over the threshold to be medically diagnosed as a sociopath.

If she genuinely thought it was an accident that had happened, there was no reason for her not calling an ambulance or taking her to the hospital (not in the boot!). No one thinks 'oh no, there's been a terrible accident to my poor daughter - I know what I'll do, I'll move her body, stuff it in the boot of my car, drag it to the common where it could be left for days or anything could happen to it, then I'll go home, play innocent, let the father & brother think she's just a moody cow and then, once she's discovered, let them think she'd been raped or brutally murdered.'

She wasn't protecting Bobby doing what she did, and she & Ian definitely aren't protecting him now by not getting him the help the little psycho clearly needs.

She did it for Bobby as well , she was also not thinking rationally as how could she be.

There are many people in jail for things they did when not thinking rationally .Its no excuse

It's a soap and I bet when it all comes out Jane and Bobby will not get in any trouble .

We'll have to disagree it's over that. She only ever thinks of herself, and she has been the same over Beth. She wanted another kid and didn't give a toss about the child's welfare or it's mother. I don't think she even loves Ian, she just wants to be with Bobby.

This.

And this. Ian and Jane don't seem worried about what the long term consequences could be for Bobby. What if, God forbid, he kills again, and it could happen. They will be eating themselves up with guilt that they didnt get help for him when Lucy died.

Ian and Jane did act badly but they are under no obligation to look after Cindy. If they haven't come to love her as a daughter by now, it's not going to happen. It's obvious that they love Beth more than they love Cindy.

They were wrong to chuck her out on to the street but within their rights to ask her to leave and to make arrangements for her to go and live with her real relatives.

While this is true it's still not Ian or Janes place to say what happens to a kid that's not even related to them at all. Using someones kid as substitute for the daughter you lost is wrong and they should support Cindy in whatever choice she decides to make. With that said the best choice would be for Beth to live with her Farther if her mother doesn't want her. At least this way Cindy knows where her kid is for when she will no doubt want content again. It's also better than Beth being put into the system.

I agree with everything you said.

They allowed an under aged girl who they were not responsible for to live with them. She got herself pregnant. She decided to have the baby. She then decided she didn't want the baby. Ian and Jane said, they would look after her baby. How are they in the wrong.

It was daft when she was turfed out without any possessions though

They should have asked Social services to deal with her.

Neither can I with what she knows but I suppose Ian's now frightened her into believing that if she says something now she'll be in trouble too She's young, she'll not know that he's talking shit.


Bamboozling isn't it? Ian was just annoyed because his Lucy replacement and Jane's new toy had been taken away. What a b@stard he was trying to bully Cindy into handing over Beth to them.


I agree that Jane is toxic (remember what Denise said? She pretends she's everyone's friend but she's not?) but Ian isn't exactly an innocent bystander here. He's covering up his own daughter's murder to keep Jane happy as I don't believe it's just to protect Bobby with him. Ian doesn't want to be alone. He's being nice to Bobby now because basically he's all he's got left but while Lucy and Peter were on the scene Bobby was just the spare part who was effectively ignored, no way was he as favoured as the twins - or even Stephen IMO.


Totally agree. I know Cindy isn't the most likeable of kids but in this she has my full support. I can see why she'd want a clean break if she wants to give her daughter up and more importantly I can see why she wouldn't those two ghouls (and more importantly Bobby!) near her kid in a million years. She's a kid and they used everything in their arsenal to try and bully or guilt-trip her into handing Beth over (Ian was particularly vile with his threats).


Me neither. It's not Cindy's fault that Jane can't have a baby. Cindy had to make a decision based on what is best for her and Beth not be guilt-tripped by a woman who for no fault of Cindy's, can't have kids.


Indeed, I used to feel dreadfully sorry for Jane back then but she did end up adopting Bobby so she has a child now - and don't we know it! But once she picked up another woman's daughter, shoved her into a boot and callously dumped her on the common like a discarded crisp packet I went right off her. Saying that she'd carried her like a child? Crap, her first thought was to protect her own yet this was a girl she'd known since she was a child. She'd been her step-mother. She told Lucy around the time she was murdered that she made her life better (or WTTE) - yet she still did that to her to protect her own brat. I just can't get my head round it, your child is only more important to you, other people and their feelings matter. She let Ian and Peter go to hell and back and all explained away as 'mother's love'? Bull. As for Ian going along with it, I have no words. Put me off the pair of them, probably for life!


I'd be surprised if Ian was ever axed but there's always the chance that some producer will come along and 'want to make their mark'. I'd say he's safer than a lot of the actors but no one is totally safe on a soap. I hope they don't axe him mind, he's EE's Bill Roache/Ken Barlow now!


BIB: Cindy was struggling, of that there is no doubt but given time and opportunity she might have got there. Instead Jane and Ian took Beth on holiday but when they came back and Cindy was wanting to make the effort with her daughter (even though she admitted she hadn't missed her), feeding her etc they completely took. They destroyed an already fragile girls confidence in being a mother by bragging that Beth had a set routine now, settled for them now etc, made Cindy feel utterly useless and the fragile bond between Cindy and Beth was broken. By the ever so caring Beales who really have no bloomin' idea or empathy for anyone else!

(needless-to-say totally agree with your first paragraph!)


Exactly. The woman is a freak. I still can't get over the fact that she shagged Ian on that floor hours later. Seriously disturbed.