Originally Posted by pjc229:
“These "precarious" votes just don't seem to exist though. Everyone who voted for the act seems content. The only people screaming about fraud and deception are those who didn't like the act anyway and are looking for a stick to beat it with. It's pointless having the debate with them. We need to find the genuine voters who feel duped, and then have the discourse with them about whether or not they were actually misled. I can't imagine for a second they would convince me of their case anyway, but it's the absolute minimum starting point.”
“These "precarious" votes just don't seem to exist though. Everyone who voted for the act seems content. The only people screaming about fraud and deception are those who didn't like the act anyway and are looking for a stick to beat it with. It's pointless having the debate with them. We need to find the genuine voters who feel duped, and then have the discourse with them about whether or not they were actually misled. I can't imagine for a second they would convince me of their case anyway, but it's the absolute minimum starting point.”
Exactly this. The idea that the result would be different if the canine "deception" had not occurred is just wishful thinking on the part of a few disgruntled losers.




However her act was based on the fact that this one dog could do all these tricks one after the other so seamlessly despite this I still believe she deserves to win as she clearly can train dogs
but they should have just called the act Jackie and friends (she probably would have still won) would and walked out with all the dogs.. or she should have stuck with things her dog whose name begins with M i cannot be bothered to research i cannot spell it could do.