I've never been as disgusted with Eastenders as I was tonight and quite frankly Ian and Jane both make me sick. They have no right to call themselves parents let alone adopt Cindy's daughter so I really hope karma hits them bad.

However with someone getting framed for Lucy's murder I believe Ian would be the perfect option because he threw Cindy out like a sack of dirt so she could get revenge by framing him.

It would certainly be interesting. Does Jane choose to lose her husband or her son?

Actually I think Ian was hinting at Cindy that he could frame her if she pushed him

Nah, it is more likely to be the other way round.

What have Ian & Jane done that is SO bad?

They did a very human and natural thing IMO, by covering up Lucy's murder. Ok, Jane dumping Lucy's body on the common wasn't exactly ideal, but she had to put her son first.

They're not going to shop Bobby into the police, are they? So, they do IMO have the right to call themselves parents. This whole adoption thing was pretty much fine with Cindy up until now, and quite frankly she's been a right spoilt brat about it all. They've now given Cindy what she wants, and I'm sure Ian will forgive her soon & let her stay again. IF they set Cindy up, I suppose it's a different story, but we'll wait & see.

Sorry for getting defensive, but Ian & Jane are two of my favourites.

Ian was vile tonight . An adult bullying a young vulnerable young girl is awful

Doesn't make it right. so saying what have they done that's so wrong is kinda... well, odd!

If I was Ian I could never forgive Jane.

hard to see how CIndy is more vulnerable than the people she has hurt. Does the fact that she is younger really make that much difference to how we should judge them? Using the threat about Bobby in the way she did was a monstrous thing to do, and it is hard to see how any kind of trust could be established.

With Beth gone the fact that she is no kind of blood relation to anyone in the family (apart from Peter and the baby out in New Zealand) comes to the fore.

To get over it and build a loving relationship would need a saint, and Ian is no kind of saint.

No the fact she's clearly suffering from PND and not one person has noticed it makes her more vulnerable than two people (Jane especially) who only saw Cindy as a means to get another child and are covering for their psychopathic murderer son. (Another person who needs help and they're ignoring which makes three with Steven and four if you count Lucy who needs/needed help and nothing is done by two so called caring parents.)

Bullying?:/

Cindy threatened to reveal Bobby was Lucy's killer. Why would Ian sit back and let her do that? It's not even his daughter tbh. Cindy has a right cheek. Like I said, he was angry when he chucked out Cindy and she'll probably be back, just like she got kicked out and came back before.

No, it doesn't make it right, but it's better than them going to the police and letting Bobby go to prison. Many other parents would do the same thing.

Yes , bullying . No thought as to how Cindy felt just Ian wanting it his way or no way

He wouldn't go to prison he needs mental help, which he wont get now and will end up a full blown psychopath by the time he reaches adulthood since Ian and Jane and kidding him he did nothing wrong even though deep down he knows he did.

I have seen this opinion posted by a lot of people on this forum ever since the live reveal and I honestly don't get it. You could maybe argue that it is humane to try to cover up a murder your 10 year old son committed if the victim was a stranger. Lucy was as good as Jane's own daughter. She should have respected Lucy's memory by not packing her into the boot of her car and dragging her through the common to be left there over night. That's not normal behaviour. It is sick and twisted. If I found out my little brother/son killed my sister/daughter and my step mum/wife acted the way Jane did, I would be disturbed and would call the police. The way Lucy was treated that night was disgusting and the fact Ian just accepted both of their actions has made me lose any respect I had for him. He mourns his daughter for 10 months and when he realised what had actually happened to her, he finds peace that she was killed in her own home and she was "safe". Well at least he can sleep easy at night now. He clearly doesn't consider how his daughter was treated like a bag of rubbish and disposed of in a very disturbing way.

Go Cindy that would be good.

Are you serious? Bobby killed his own sister and needs brought to justice. Why should he sleep soundly at night when he's commited such a horrible act. He didn't slip and push her out an imaginary window to her death. He lifted up a blunt object and smashed her head in a fatal attempt to teach her a lesson. The boy's clearly got issue and needs seen to before he gets older.

I suppose everyone is different. Like I said, Jane dragging her body through the common fair enough that's bad, but what was she supposed to do? If she would have phoned the police there & then, Bobby would have been taken away. Jane adopted Bobby and would never put him in that situation. Ian also loves Bobby and he chose to forgive Jane & Bobby, as like I said everyone is different. Ian was mad at first, but it's a tricky situation. I just don't think Ian & Jane are as bad as some make out. They're in pretty much an impossible situation. I'm not saying it's right though. Jane also seemed like she felt very guilty for ages and rightly so.

But wouldn't Ian and Jane's emotions regarding the loss of Lucy make them unable to empathise with Bobby? He is the sole reason Ian doesn't have a daughter any more. It's like all of those emotions he felt in the aftermath of Lucy's death have been undermined by him just accepting the fact his son killed her. The whole "well I've lost one child, I don't want to lose another one" mentality is so cold and too far removed from how any normal person would feel. They'd feel resentful that they'll never see their daughter again.

Everything suggests that Jane is a sociopath and Ian is enabling her. This is all but established as fact in the show. I hope Cindy gets her revenge on the pair of them.