All they do is scheme and bitch together

You'd think they'd be up for a laugh and a bit of fun now and again wouldn't you ?

Not this pair though ... like a couple of dried up old shrews, gossiping over the garden fence about her at No. 38

lol..Tbh i cant argue to much with all of that

So what? It's hardly vile bitching or being like a certain woman last series.

Emma was right about Joel, I find him very interesting to watch.

Joel was alright to begin with, seemed like he wanted a fun time, when he was mates with Nick.

But since teaming up with Jack he's morphed into a slimmer, less greasy, but just as miserable, angry and confrontational version of Jack. He's even got the dressing gown thing going on.

As Joel is one of the topics in this thread did he mistakenly say we are BB15 on tonights highlight show ? Thought i heard that. It's one hell of a good time warp trick mind

Its BB16 i'm thinking unless i'm wrong lol

Jack is a nasty little whiner and Joel is so pompous I wouldn't be surprised if BB gathered them on the sofas to make the sad announcement, "Joel will not be returning to the house ... having completely disappeared up his own @rse overnight "

If Jack is pissed off with someone (which is often) Joel is his goto guy for backup and acts as Jack's battering rod.

Jack is constantly thinking about the game.

Poor Joel had just survived eviction, sod off Jack!

I'm watching tonights show now. Gotta say Joel did sound pompous when he said he didn't deserve to be up.. but Elieen did. Al of that was said with arrogance.

Joel's got no time for joy as he's plotting his rise to Power.

Jack had the joy knocked out of him at all those Argyle games.

Jack is not constantly thinking about the game......he thinks about food alot too.

Live feed tonight, dominated with Jack talking about food...£9 for sex on a plate.

They are like Cissy & Ada.
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None of them are really nasty this series. Marc is a twonk and Showbiz is just annoying but you get a laugh. If you want to see nasty, check last series.

I don't genuinely see anyone I could deem nasty on this series.

Juicy steak on a plate. All class is our Jack.

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Jack acts like an awkward teen who prefers staying in with the lads playing PlayStation than go to parties and meet girls.

Joel is a very old soul. Put his mum in , she'd be much more fun and acts younger than her son.

I think the atmosphere is completely different - because there's no Helen to dominate with negativity. However, I don't think there are no nasty housemates. I think both Jack and Joel are nasty; in that they only really come alive when there's someone to attack. They started it with Jade, but the appetite just wasn't there. Even with Eileen and the twins, the girls had their bitch about each other and moved on. Jack and Joel were like jackals on the sideline that time but there was no blood shed so they'd nothing to devour.

With the Simon/Eileen and Simon/Chloe situation, however, both Jack and Joel broke forth from their chrysalis of inertia. They thrive on negativity - both of them. If you think about it, they never feature in the fun, dad-dancing, couldn't give a shoite moments. They only excel within the negative.

They're probably the two most bitchy in there but they get away with it because they're boys.

I don't find any of the housemates nasty. Some can be annoying at times but no real malicious ones imo.

I like Joel. The intelligent ones who can articulate their thoughts/opinions are the ones I like. I'm even starting to like Joel more than Nick. Still adoring Joel, Nick and even annoying Marc (he is a fool yet he is intelligent).

With zero interest in the girls in the house, not even playful with them. Perhaps they appeal to viewers their age. I find them both very tedious.

Joel's just too strange. And Nick was my fave but having seen his YouTube vids he is not same in the house. He's capable of being the most manipulative and not sure if he's interested in Harry or Cristian now

I agree that they are miserable as sin, but I actually enjoy watching them.

Much in the same way as I watch in horror at Marc's antics.

They are the antithesis of the coasters n the house and keeping them ever mindful that it's a game to win at all costs.

I really liked Joel until this week. He's enjoying all of this confronting way too much. As others have said, his fun side seems to have disappeared and been replaced by some kind of mini tyrant who is going to tell people off if they are not behaving as Joel wants I blame jack really. He's all fired up and ranting but doesn't want to do the actual confronting. Joel has better communication skills and has taken it upon himself to do what he and jack think is protecting their house from these dreadful newbies.

I wish Joel would spend more time with other people. He seems to be out of the group and is spending too much time around jack who is an extremely immature and angry young boy.

For all we know Jack and Joel might have been wrapping their willies in tin foil every day.

Agree. Shame Joel didn't go last night.