They are like fish wives, bitching constantly.

Don't like either Jack or Joel. They're like dogs with bones where Simon's concerned. Let Simon have his bloody say. If he doesn't like Chloe, SO WHAT!!

Joel had plenty to say about Jade not that long ago. Didn't hear or see this jumped up little fool get 'told off' about it

Come on Jack has been a lovely guy. Very supportive and taking on tasks with gusto. He changed since the newbies came in just like Chloe had. She hardly registered before.

Joel is remarkable, holding his own in there at his age. It would have been easy to be swamped by strong characters but he's coming to the fore. I like his deadpan humour and one liners. I like the fact that he's not gross like Marc or a vicious drama queen like Simon. He is extraordinarily self possessed and shows no sign of crumbling, as Eileen said. He's
one to watch.

They seem to think they can say what they please to him loudly but woe betide him if he does it.

I think Harry's winding them up with her sexually.

Yes lets hope surviving the public vote dosnt go to Joels' head and we see the rise of heil Joel the house fürer leading to cataclysmic events that rock the world

I thought he said he accepted that he was up, but not the reasons that were given........

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Joel DID seem to have a lot more fun when Aaron was in the house, ironically.

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At the start Joel was one of favorites and i thought of Jack as a happy chappy but i can't stand either now.

Jack constantly calling people a **** in an angry voiceand his hiding his nomination "grudge" behind the Vail of defending Eileen and Chloe really ticked me off.

I can't look at Joel or hear him speak without thinking of a slimy manipulative politician who tell the public anything to secure their vote.

They were really Simon/Jack & Joel situations as the 2 were were hiding behind the girls to attack Simon for nominating them. As they said..Joel didn't deserve to be up and Jack holds a grudge

No you were right he did say BB15 . Maybe that was a hint to the hms coming back .. could be Helen is returning with another pass to the final and to break BB records by winning two years in a row .





Yep same with Jack's hypocrisy when he started ranting about Eileen being nominated yet he voted her each time and used her age too.

Typical of them both and as Cristian rightly said to them and equally annoying Harry it is none of their business. Chloe has a big enough mouth she can sort it out herself.

Jack, Joel and Chloe really cannot take criticism but it is ok for them to bitch and criticsize others. Just over a week ago they were isolating Jade and now it's Simon. Yes he is annoying but I prefer him as a hm to those three moaners.

Yes he did and no you are not wrong

I like Joel and think he is intelligent and interesting. He can be a bit pompous and a bit serious at times so he needs someone to bring the fun out in him. Jack who is the head of the moaning Minnie club is not the right person to do that and IMHO Jack will continue to bring him down. He needs someone like Aaron to bounce off with his one liners. Maybe Marc is an option.

Jack is awfully joyless though. Never happier than when he is moaning about something

Totally agree.

What they both need is a good seeing to, to loosen them up a bit.

Any volunteers?

Maybe they will give each other a good seeing to - go on jack "Open it"

I can see the queues forming with tents at the ready as they wait in anticipation .

Still it would put a smile on their faces and probably strike them dumb with the delirium of it all .

Well said Cazzie

Ah may be you're right , i watched it recorded late last night. So may have mis heard. I personally agree the the OP's sentiments though cant really argue to much.

Ah always good when a woman utters those words you are not wrong Rare stuff mind lol

As another poster said ironically I also liked Joel more when Aaron was there. Yeah and you seem to be saying that too. What does annoy me with Joel right now his I will say what i feel to any one when i want to say it attitude. We all know honesty is a good thing but we also know in life , it's best to bite your lip at times. And he seems to totally ignore the fact that he himself may be wrong at times. This is just the way he's coming across right now imo.

As for Jack he just seems so bitter all the time about almost every thing.

They are all totally oblivious of their double standards and hypocrisy. All of them have slagged somebody or other behind their backs, particularly in the DR.

Lets hope that Joel just mistakenly got his facts wrong and it's not a hint of the return of the Helen

I keep reading about this but am obviously missing it in the highlights! What one liners?

I remember his charming wit about getting a prostitute to clean his car post sex, but that's all. With such paucity of warmth and humour I guess anything he says will be elevated to mythic proportions.