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Clyne is as good as gone. Southampton have signed a new RB.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...alling-5908752 This is what I was saying yesterday. Either sterling stays or we get the asking price which is hefty. Either option isn't too bad for the club. The only thing I think the owners should do is tell city that if they are gonna pay £50 mil it needs to be done within 7 days or no deal at all. |
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Very interesting. Had completely over-looked that if we keep Sterling to the end of his contract we still get a fee as he would be under 24. Makes it more likely we'd be able to off-load him for a decent amount at any time over the 2 years. Faced with the prospect of 2 more years on a mere £35k pw he's then possibly going to come round to our original offer for an extension as long as he got the assurance that we'd let him go after 2 years anyway if he still wanted to. We get the security of the longer contract, he gets more money and everyone's happy!
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Very interesting. Had completely over-looked that if we keep Sterling to the end of his contract we still get a fee as he would be under 24. Makes it more likely we'd be able to off-load him for a decent amount at any time over the 2 years. Faced with the prospect of 2 more years on a mere £35k pw he's then possibly going to come round to our original offer for an extension as long as he got the assurance that we'd let him go after 2 years anyway if he still wanted to. We get the security of the longer contract, he gets more money and everyone's happy!
This notion that Sterling is suddenly going to want to sign a contract extension and come around to our way of thinking is crazy. He doesn't want to be here and wants to move on!! I would rather take real cold hard cash now instead of forcing a very unhappy, unpredictable kid to stay against his will and take a consolation fee at the end of it. Just get to grips with the fact he doesn't want to be here and let him go and think of the club and the cash we can spend on players that do want to be here. |
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Clyne is as good as gone. Southampton have signed a new RB.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...alling-5908752 This is what I was saying yesterday. Either sterling stays or we get the asking price which is hefty. Either option isn't too bad for the club. The only thing I think the owners should do is tell city that if they are gonna pay £50 mil it needs to be done within 7 days or no deal at all. Quote:
mirror reporting the owners wont budge on anything less then £50m
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...alling-5908752 Keeping an unhappy Sterling isn't a good option really. Whilst holding out for 50M is great if we end up getting it, it'll be disappointing if City walk away cos we aint getting near 40M from anyone else I suspect. |
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This notion that Sterling is suddenly going to want to sign a contract extension and come around to our way of thinking is crazy. He doesn't want to be here and wants to move on!! I would rather take real cold hard cash now instead of forcing a very unhappy, unpredictable kid to stay against his will and take a consolation fee at the end of it. Just get to grips with the fact he doesn't want to be here and let him go and think of the club and the cash we can spend on players that do want to be here. I would've sold at £40m cash up front as he's over valued at that amount. Though I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised at the money-balling FSG not grabbing that cash when it's in front of them. I can't quite make up my mind whether they just want City to back-off and look somewhere else, or if they really think they can hold out for an unbelievable £50m? |
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He needs to make this an indisputable fact then by making an official transfer request. If he does, then the club will have a little bit of a problem. It's not good PR to be seen keeping a young player against his will and not a good platform on which to encourage other young players to sign for the club.
I would've sold at £40m cash up front as he's over valued at that amount. Though I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised at the money-balling FSG not grabbing that cash when it's in front of them. I can't quite make up my mind whether they just want City to back-off and look somewhere else, or if they really think they can hold out for an unbelievable £50m? I think the owners have handled it fantastically well. |
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I think its simply down to the club not concerned if Man City walk away. The budget for spending has already been set regardless of what happens with Sterling and the worst that can happen is one of the clubs best players remains for another season at least.
I think the owners have handled it fantastically well. At the risk of taking the rumours too seriously, we may be about to spend £15m on Clyne and £18m on Kovacic ( =£33m outlay) ; both seem very good players. However, with Coutinho, Lallana, Milner, Hendo (and especially if Sterling stays) we seem well covered for attack minded midfielders. I have to say I'd prefer something like £4m for Trippier at RB and £25-30m for either Carvalho or Schneiderlin to give some more robustness to our midfield directly in front of the CB's. It seems Tottenham have signed Trippier and could be well in the bidding for Schneiderlin. Of course, I'm the guy who thought Lovren would be a great signing, so good luck Spurs!
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Are people just forgetting that his agent has already said he could be offered ridiculous amounts of money by the club but he will not sign a contract? A player that makes no difference when it really matters - the hype surrounding him is absurd. If he is so good then where has he been to rescue us when it mattered? Ok, so the club get to keep a real (possible) future talent on £35k a week when he clearly no longer wants to be at the club and has an agent that seems to hate us... or we can focus on the real deal and cash in and make a vastly overpriced fee while the interest is there.
This notion that Sterling is suddenly going to want to sign a contract extension and come around to our way of thinking is crazy. He doesn't want to be here and wants to move on!! I would rather take real cold hard cash now instead of forcing a very unhappy, unpredictable kid to stay against his will and take a consolation fee at the end of it. Just get to grips with the fact he doesn't want to be here and let him go and think of the club and the cash we can spend on players that do want to be here. There is going to come a price that City just won't pay and Liverpool have to find the sweet spot to get maximum return without making City walk away. In my eyes the issue is that there is a mismatch between what Liverpool think he is worth and the contract they offered him. A £50m player will be on more an a £100k a week contract so while Liverpool can say he is £50m they didn't value him anywhere near that when deciding what to offer him to get him to stay. |
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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...oberto-Firmino Quote:
The Anfield club – which is set to promote U16s coach, Pepijn Lijnders, to Brendan Rodgers’ backroom staff – is keen on Hoffenheim’s attacking midfielder who has also been tracked by Manchester United.
Their interest is not dependent on the departure of Sterling, who has been the subject of two rejected bids from Manchester City. The latest was worth a guaranteed fee of £35m. Liverpool have also checked on Real Madrid winger Denis Cheryshev, who spent last season on loan at Villarreal, although it is hard to see both Firmino and Cheryshev signing unless someone left. Firmino, 23, is at the Copa America in Chile with Brazil, who face Venezuela tomorrow. While he occupies a similar position to the likes of Philippe Coutinho and Adam Lallana, he can drift to the flanks. Liverpool will decide whether to progress with their interest next week. The player is represented by Roger Wittmann, head of the ROGON sports management group, and could cost as much as 30m euros. |
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Sky Sports News breaking that Joe Gomez has signed from Charlton for £3.5m. Another defender for the future and another to be loaned out with the likes of McLaughlin, Wisdom and Ilori.
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thought it was supposed to be 7m? seems a bit less of a risk only paying 3.5m for a youngster. Little less pressure on the lad.
welcome to Liverpool Joe
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I've read it's £3.5m with the potential to rise up to £7m.
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Charlton season ticket holder here. Gomez isn't your regular kid, he's a class above.
He made his first appearance against the much fancied Derby County earlier last season (we won 3-2) and Gomez looked like he had been playing for years. So calm on the ball and not a hoof-it-clear type player. McClaren had to take off his winger Simon Dawkins at half time because Gomez completely shut him out of the game. From then on he's made 21 appearances and not made a single mistake - not even the odd 'inexperience' error. Everyone at Charlton knew he was just passing through and would make it on to bigger things. The figure is more like £6-7m but that's pocketmoney for Liverpool and Joe is more than worth it. I'll be looking out for him! |
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Charlton season ticket holder here. Gomez isn't your regular kid, he's a class above.
He made his first appearance against the much fancied Derby County earlier last season (we won 3-2) and Gomez looked like he had been playing for years. So calm on the ball and not a hoof-it-clear type player. McClaren had to take off his winger Simon Dawkins at half time because Gomez completely shut him out of the game. From then on he's made 21 appearances and not made a single mistake - not even the odd 'inexperience' error. Everyone at Charlton knew he was just passing through and would make it on to bigger things. The figure is more like £6-7m but that's pocketmoney for Liverpool and Joe is more than worth it. I'll be looking out for him! If he's a good passer of the ball, then that's exactly the type of player Rodgers always looks for in every position. Did he play more RB or CB for Charlton? |
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It wouldn't be the biggest surprise if he gets loaned back to you for a season; it might be the best thing for the lad to get more first team football in a familiar environment.
If he's a good passer of the ball, then that's exactly the type of player Rodgers always looks for in every position. Did he play more RB or CB for Charlton? Gomez is a done deal.
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He's rumoured to be going on loan to Derby.
Gomez is a done deal. ![]() |
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He won't go to Derby.
He played mostly at RB for Charlton but did make some appearances at CB. Was comfortable in both. I suspect he could also do a midfield job if necessary. He is a CB by trade though. |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...los-Bacca.html Quote:
Liverpool go cool on Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke as focus switches to Fernando Llorente and Carlos Bacca
Hopefully true. Benteke is all wrong for us.
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Charlton season ticket holder here. Gomez isn't your regular kid, he's a class above.
He made his first appearance against the much fancied Derby County earlier last season (we won 3-2) and Gomez looked like he had been playing for years. So calm on the ball and not a hoof-it-clear type player. McClaren had to take off his winger Simon Dawkins at half time because Gomez completely shut him out of the game. From then on he's made 21 appearances and not made a single mistake - not even the odd 'inexperience' error. Everyone at Charlton knew he was just passing through and would make it on to bigger things. The figure is more like £6-7m but that's pocketmoney for Liverpool and Joe is more than worth it. I'll be looking out for him! |
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I liked Llorente when he was in Spain with Bilboa. I remember posting here at that time he'd be good to come play with Suarez. Although he still could be a good foil for Sturridge and, especially, Coutinho, I think he might be past his best now. When I used to watch him before he looked a player who liked crosses, so if there's any truth to our interest in him (and indeed with Benteke) then BR may be contemplating a slight change in playing style? I don't know much about Bacca but he seems to have taken his fair share of goals for Sevilla. I suppose I'd maybe put him in the same bracket as someone like Soriano: a bit of a risk and could they keep scoring with a top team in a tougher league? |
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He won't go to Derby.
He played mostly at RB for Charlton but did make some appearances at CB. Was comfortable in both. I suspect he could also do a midfield job if necessary. He is a CB by trade though. |
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Liverpool are to promote highly-rated Dutch coach Pepijn Lijnders from the academy to become the clubs new first team coach.
Our first team is dominated by young players, so it could work out. |
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Liverpool are strongly pushing to get Asier Illarramendi. Quote:
The Anfield club made an initial offer of €15 million for the Spanish central midfielder that was flatly refused by Real Madrid. However, the Reds board have decided to up their bid by almost half. Read more: Real Madrid: Liverpool pushing hard for Illarra - MARCA.com (English version
The Whites now have an offer of €22 million on the table for Illarra. The club are happy with the figure being proposed by Liverpool, which is close to the €25 million bid by Athletic in last winter's transfer window, and are ready to sell Illarra for that amount. The thinking at Real Madrid is that the sale would cover a decent part of what they paid for the player, who arrived at the 'Merengues' in the summer of 2013 for close to €35 million. Either way the decision is in the hands of Rafa Benítez. If the manager gives the deal the all-clear, Illarramendi will become a Liverpool player. If not, the ex-Napoli boss will state the player is not up for sale and Illarra will stay at Real Madrid for another season. |
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