Originally Posted by Grouty:
“I wouldn't be surprised if hes injured again
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“I wouldn't be surprised if hes injured again
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And I wouldn't be surprised if you're laughing your head off at the prospect.
Liverpool Supporters Thread (Part 21)
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Originally Posted by Michael_Vaughan:
“Welcome to the Europa League Utd
As shite in the CL as we were last year.Not great for the PL overall if Arsenal also fail to get through tomorrow.”
“Welcome to the Europa League Utd
As shite in the CL as we were last year.Not great for the PL overall if Arsenal also fail to get through tomorrow.”
Thanks for the welcome.
Bit (Bit!!!) of a feckup on our part but it's a trophy we are yet to win so there is that. Would love to meet you guys in the final (though the prospect of losing to you in said final is not one I wish to contemplate)
Originally Posted by yaristaman:
“Thanks for the welcome. Bit (Bit!!!) of a feckup on our part but it's a trophy we are yet to win so there is that. Would love to meet you guys in the final (though the prospect of losing to you in said final is not one I wish to contemplate)”
“Thanks for the welcome.
Bit (Bit!!!) of a feckup on our part but it's a trophy we are yet to win so there is that. Would love to meet you guys in the final (though the prospect of losing to you in said final is not one I wish to contemplate)”
Well Sevilla equalled our tally of 3 UEFA cups last season so you'd be doing us a favour.
It would be a bit of change, as we nearly got to play each other in Moscow in 2008!
A final between us two would produce a great atmosphere in the stands!
A final between us two would produce a great atmosphere in the stands!
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Well Sevilla equalled our tally of 3 UEFA cups last season so you'd be doing us a favour.”
“Well Sevilla equalled our tally of 3 UEFA cups last season so you'd be doing us a favour.
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Oh well, since you put it that way lol
If the rumors of Daniel being injured with a hamstring injury are true then its silly to come up with comments like "he should man up"
You can't play through a injured hamstring. Simply not possible to run with that kind of injury.
You can't play through a injured hamstring. Simply not possible to run with that kind of injury.
It really has got beyond a joke now with Sturridge, what did he manage 1 game and he's out for several weeks again.
I'll say again what I said last week, his talent is undoubted, but sadly so is his fragility and we cannot afford to have a £30m+ rated striker injured more than he's playing.
Gutted for Sturridge. We may feel gutted but he must feel like the world is against him.
Still behind him 100%.
Still behind him 100%.
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Gutted for Sturridge. We may feel gutted but he must feel like the world is against him.
Still behind him 100%.”
“Gutted for Sturridge. We may feel gutted but he must feel like the world is against him.
Still behind him 100%.”
You can be behind him personally but from a Liverpool point of view you really cant. I think he is a cracking player but how can he possibly be relied upon? This is now the crucial Christmas period he is missing. What do you do in January when he comes back? Do you change the team to accommodate him whilst in the back of your mind thinking "How many games will he last?". Do you drop another forward for him knowing that at any point you may have to put that player back in again?
Its a real shame for Sturridge but if you cant reply on a player (for any reason) then you have a big problem.
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“You can be behind him personally but from a Liverpool point of view you really cant. I think he is a cracking player but how can he possibly be relied upon? This is now the crucial Christmas period he is missing. What do you do in January when he comes back? Do you change the team to accommodate him whilst in the back of your mind thinking "How many games will he last?". Do you drop another forward for him knowing that at any point you may have to put that player back in again?
Its a real shame for Sturridge but if you cant reply on a player (for any reason) then you have a big problem.”
“You can be behind him personally but from a Liverpool point of view you really cant. I think he is a cracking player but how can he possibly be relied upon? This is now the crucial Christmas period he is missing. What do you do in January when he comes back? Do you change the team to accommodate him whilst in the back of your mind thinking "How many games will he last?". Do you drop another forward for him knowing that at any point you may have to put that player back in again?
Its a real shame for Sturridge but if you cant reply on a player (for any reason) then you have a big problem.”
When his fit he plays simply because his head and shoulders above the alternatives.
We made our bed with his contract and now it should be doing whatever to get him one the pitch.
Yes it's frustrating and yes we will need to make a decision on whether we need to sign someone else but it's likely Sturridge will be a Liverpool player long term so we just need to deal with it.
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“When his fit he plays simply because his head and shoulders above the alternatives.
We made our bed with his contract and now it should be doing whatever to get him one the pitch.
Yes it's frustrating and yes we will need to make a decision on whether we need to sign someone else but it's likely Sturridge will be a Liverpool player long term so we just need to deal with it.”
“When his fit he plays simply because his head and shoulders above the alternatives.
We made our bed with his contract and now it should be doing whatever to get him one the pitch.
Yes it's frustrating and yes we will need to make a decision on whether we need to sign someone else but it's likely Sturridge will be a Liverpool player long term so we just need to deal with it.”
As someone already posted on this thread, you might as well just take what you can from Sturridge at the moment, if he plays half the games so be it. We do, therefore, need to buy another top striker ASAP as I don't see Benteke as the kind of forward that will fit into this team, our best performances have come when we've had dynamic players up front, even if at times they haven't been a recognised striker.
The difficult question is, which top striker out there would come to us?
No doubts he'll get fully fit again in time to be picked for the Euros...and then come back and get injured in pre-season.
I thought Benteke looked completely out of place on Sunday, although to be fair so did half the team so I don't wantr to be too harsh. However I agree he doesn't look like the sort of player Klopp wants in his side. Another waste of money sadly.
Originally Posted by Draca_Noir:
“As someone already posted on this thread, you might as well just take what you can from Sturridge at the moment, if he plays half the games so be it. We do, therefore, need to buy another top striker ASAP as I don't see Benteke as the kind of forward that will fit into this team, our best performances have come when we've had dynamic players up front, even if at times they haven't been a recognised striker.
The difficult question is, which top striker out there would come to us?”
“As someone already posted on this thread, you might as well just take what you can from Sturridge at the moment, if he plays half the games so be it. We do, therefore, need to buy another top striker ASAP as I don't see Benteke as the kind of forward that will fit into this team, our best performances have come when we've had dynamic players up front, even if at times they haven't been a recognised striker.
The difficult question is, which top striker out there would come to us?”
Not only that but do FSG want to see more money being spent on strikers. They have spent big with Benteke, Firminho, add in Ings and Orgi plus the lucrative contract Sturridge was given and thats a big outlay on strikers.
Hard to justify spending big again on this position.
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Not only that but do FSG want to see more money being spent on strikers. They have spent big with Benteke, Firminho, add in Ings and Orgi plus the lucrative contract Sturridge was given and thats a big outlay on strikers.
Hard to justify spending big again on this position.”
“Not only that but do FSG want to see more money being spent on strikers. They have spent big with Benteke, Firminho, add in Ings and Orgi plus the lucrative contract Sturridge was given and thats a big outlay on strikers.
Hard to justify spending big again on this position.”
(Back from a horrible weekend @ Carlisle and the Borders
)Not the best news on top of what was a bad weekend result, but I do think that we have to try to get Sturridge to the table to come to some mutual agreement with him over his continual injuries. It could be a buyout of his contract, but, if his salary is covered by insurance (as it should be), then there is really no need to do anything. I think he has 3-4 years left on contract at about £120k per week pre performance bonus, so about £21m he will be very reluctant to give up, and we will be very reluctant to pay out!
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Not only that but do FSG want to see more money being spent on strikers. They have spent big with Benteke, Firminho, add in Ings and Orgi plus the lucrative contract Sturridge was given and thats a big outlay on strikers.
Hard to justify spending big again on this position.”
“Not only that but do FSG want to see more money being spent on strikers. They have spent big with Benteke, Firminho, add in Ings and Orgi plus the lucrative contract Sturridge was given and thats a big outlay on strikers.
Hard to justify spending big again on this position.”
It's up to Klopp as to whether he wants to sign big, if he does then they should back the manager. Benteke was bought by Rodgers, Firmino isn't a striker, but I take your point that he cost a lot of money.
FSG have given all our managers a lot of money, they should give Klopp the same courtesy, it's not his fault Dalglish and Rodgers spent it on a lot of potential than proven talent.
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
“(Back from a horrible weekend @ Carlisle and the Borders )
Not the best news on top of what was a bad weekend result, but I do think that we have to try to get Sturridge to the table to come to some mutual agreement with him over his continual injuries. It could be a buyout of his contract, but, if his salary is covered by insurance (as it should be), then there is really no need to do anything. I think he has 3-4 years left on contract at about £120k per week pre performance bonus, so about £21m he will be very reluctant to give up, and we will be very reluctant to pay out!”
“(Back from a horrible weekend @ Carlisle and the Borders
)Not the best news on top of what was a bad weekend result, but I do think that we have to try to get Sturridge to the table to come to some mutual agreement with him over his continual injuries. It could be a buyout of his contract, but, if his salary is covered by insurance (as it should be), then there is really no need to do anything. I think he has 3-4 years left on contract at about £120k per week pre performance bonus, so about £21m he will be very reluctant to give up, and we will be very reluctant to pay out!”
Thats unfair on the player. He signed a contract offered to him and has every right to honour that contract as it is.
I think people need to look away from the wages. They are irrelevent. Would it be any better if an injured player was earning £20k a week? More important is the fact we are not seeing him on the pitch rather than what his earning while not playing. It's an unfair stick to beat him with as his just honouring a contract the club gave him.
The club would be insane to just write off such a huge amount by letting him go. His still an asset and while the value of the asset is going through depreciation I still think its better to have him than just give him away.
Originally Posted by Assa2:
“I thought Benteke looked completely out of place on Sunday, although to be fair so did half the team so I don't wantr to be too harsh. However I agree he doesn't look like the sort of player Klopp wants in his side. Another waste of money sadly.”
“I thought Benteke looked completely out of place on Sunday, although to be fair so did half the team so I don't wantr to be too harsh. However I agree he doesn't look like the sort of player Klopp wants in his side. Another waste of money sadly.”
Think the commentators said on Sunday that Benteke didn't start any of the three big wins of late (Chelsea, Man City and Southampton). Tells you all you need to know really.
Originally Posted by 1manonthebog:
“It really has got beyond a joke now with Sturridge, what did he manage 1 game and he's out for several weeks again.”
“It really has got beyond a joke now with Sturridge, what did he manage 1 game and he's out for several weeks again.”
Yep absolute joke, how long do you think hes going to be back for, before hes out again ?, it won't be long thats for sure, he should just retire, not like we need him now, as been doing fine without him, hes only got to step off the team bus and he tweaks something, ruling him out for a season or 2, even does himself in training, and even warming up just before a game, you see him out there with the rest of the lads, then word goes around that hes out of the game, as hes buggered himself yet again, and thats it for another season or 2, its a ******* joke!.
Originally Posted by Grouty:
“Yep absolute joke, how long do you think hes going to be back for, before hes out again ?, it won't be long thats for sure, he should just retire, not like we need him now, as been doing fine without him, hes only got to step off the team bus and he tweaks something, ruling him out for a season or 2, even does himself in training, and even warming up just before a game, you see him out there with the rest of the lads, then word goes around that hes out of the game, as hes buggered himself yet again, and thats it for another season or 2, its a ******* joke!.”
“Yep absolute joke, how long do you think hes going to be back for, before hes out again ?, it won't be long thats for sure, he should just retire, not like we need him now, as been doing fine without him, hes only got to step off the team bus and he tweaks something, ruling him out for a season or 2, even does himself in training, and even warming up just before a game, you see him out there with the rest of the lads, then word goes around that hes out of the game, as hes buggered himself yet again, and thats it for another season or 2, its a ******* joke!.”
I'm sure he would be trilled with such great support.
Things can change.
Did any Arsenal fan ever see RVP having two injury-free seasons where he scored 30 goals for them and then went to Utd and did the same and won them the league after all the nightmare he had with all the injuries @ Arsenal.
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...s-first-feared
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Thats unfair on the player. He signed a contract offered to him and has every right to honour that contract as it is.
I think people need to look away from the wages. They are irrelevent. Would it be any better if an injured player was earning £20k a week? More important is the fact we are not seeing him on the pitch rather than what his earning while not playing. It's an unfair stick to beat him with as his just honouring a contract the club gave him.
The club would be insane to just write off such a huge amount by letting him go. His still an asset and while the value of the asset is going through depreciation I still think its better to have him than just give him away.”
“Thats unfair on the player. He signed a contract offered to him and has every right to honour that contract as it is.
I think people need to look away from the wages. They are irrelevent. Would it be any better if an injured player was earning £20k a week? More important is the fact we are not seeing him on the pitch rather than what his earning while not playing. It's an unfair stick to beat him with as his just honouring a contract the club gave him.
The club would be insane to just write off such a huge amount by letting him go. His still an asset and while the value of the asset is going through depreciation I still think its better to have him than just give him away.”
I am one who has stuck up for, and will continue to stick up for Sturridge. I am one who believes we should take what we can get from him, keep him and use him while he's fit.
BUT! LFC are a business, and the contract he signed was for the benefit of both parties, Sturridge cannot keep his side of the contract, admittedly through no fault of his own. LFC are in fact writing off his salary as there is no end product, or the Insurance Company has been losing plenty. Now, Insurance Companies will only cover year on year, and by now the premiums on DS will either be horrific, or he will be uninsurable.
Sturridge has got to reach a decision on his future, we know already that he goes through a mass of pain when injured, and during the healing process. Does he want to keep on going through that just to come on the pitch for an hour or so? I doubt it. It must be in his mind that he could end up permanently crippled, and that is what he has to sort out with the LFC medics and other specialists.
My heart really does go out to him for all that.
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