The whole win the league idea was just stupid. Why anyone thought that was remotely possible was just astounding.

Only team in the current top ten with a negative goal difference.Says it all about where our major problems lie.

Yes, losing Ings and Sturridge (again and again) to injury has cost us. I was also hoping Firmino would share the creativity burden with Coutinho but that's yet to hapoen (both were anonymous today).

Watched the match and then went out, now back in and the reaction is predictable. I would never tear someone apart expressing OTT views when frustrated and annoyed as we all are now but lets try to stay calm and just a little bit rational.

JK is a good manager, we are lucky to have him, many clubs would love to have him. He took over in October and so had to use players already there. In some ways this a good thing as sometimes new managers do not give previous players a decent chance but JK has - cos he has had to. What worries me a bit is him coming out and saying we do not need many signings - if he really thinks that then I am not sure he is a good manager - but I doubt that he does think that. After all what is he meant to do say publicly that hey are all rubbish - and I do believe that a good man manager praises those under him in order to get the best from them so I think he has acted sensibly.

In some ways maybe some of the results did not help - esp the 1-6 at S'ton as that flattered us and maybe made us a bit complacent in fixtures since. Anyway what is now abundantly clear is that changes are needed but I would add a word of caution - not too many not too soon as that has been a fault in the past so for me 3 or 4 each window at the most and preferably people to come into the team not squad players or players who might make it 3 or 4 years down the line.

The current players? - I like Lucas and Sakho most times but both were very bad today but that does not mean we ditch them. Coutinho is the best player we have if he plays to form so he has to stay. Hendo is not outstanding but he is definitely worth a place in the current set up. Milner has the experience and has to be kept. Origi is impressing me recently and looks promising. Can in the long term I think will be a player but at the moment is being given too much responsibility too young. The keeper position is a worry and a good commanding keeper is a must I think. We have injured players who to me are decent - Ings, even Lovren, Flanno and of course Studge are all good whilst Gomez might be and I want to see Texeira given more chances. Clyne is OK and RB is not our weakest position so we keep him there - altho to put in a controversial view looking at Glen for Stoke he is doing pretty well too and it makes you wonder why he could not be that good for us. Moreno is a bit bull at a gateish but is acceptable altho Smith looks a decent alternative. Big worries are Firmino re form, Benteke re how he fits into our team and Skrtel is looking a bit past his best. Lallana and Ibe are too inconsistent but at times play OK. We have to improve the squad a bit at a time cos it won't happen over night

I read somewhere that Chelsea were after Benteke. If he joins I hope the first thing he's taught is how to avoid being offside.
How many times did he get caught in the short amount of time he was on the pitch ?

First game in years I haven't been able to watch due to work, Seems fate choose a good day for that to happen

One thing that needs addressing is the lack of genuine pace in the side. If you're trying to attack through transitions, being smarter about when to press and attack then you're going to come unstuck without pace or individual quality if you have an off day.

For me, it's our midfield options that lack pace.

Moreno and Clyne are quick enough, as is Origi.

Can and Lucas seem a bit pedestrian, Lallana too.

Yep and thats the key area when changing quickly defence into attack. We need a lot more pace in midfield.

Henderson isn't particularly slow, but the rest of them are. Milner, Allen, Can, Lucas, Lallana.

Coutinho and Firmino are quite good at changing their pace, but they're not the quickest either.

The only real pace in the midfield I think, is Ibe...

I felt sorry for Sahko,he has been out for a couple of months and then gets thrown in the deep end from the start.
It's not just midfielders or forwards who can be rusty,but they seem to get away with it .

I thought first half he was fine but 2nd half he looked exhausted. Didnt help that he seemed to have to be covering the LB position an awful lot due to to Moreno going missing.

Sakho will be fine once his up to speed.

Not sure why Henderson copped so much flak - at least he got involved and hit some decent cross-field passes. Lallana, Coutinho and Firmino were totally ineffectice, especially the two Brazilians. As I said yesterday, Klopp is not helping by moaning about over-physicality, long balls and conditions. We were bullied again yesterday and need to toughen up before we get a reputation as a soft touch.

Lewandowski would be a good signing.

So would Lionel messi and add neymar also.

Let's be real here. It's never gonna happen.

Any media outlet that links Liverpool with Lewandowski is speaking rubbish

Oh, goody. Toure just scored. On Ultimate I had to choose between Yaya Toure and David Silva, didn't have room for both. Guess which one I chose?

Silva ultimately got 1 point, Toure sits comfortably on my bench with 9. I only got 94 points, was hoping to break 100.

I can't believe we haven't gone back in time yet and put in a bid for 1962 Pele, what are the club playing at?

Lewandowski will go to Real Madrid

Hard luck Munch! - Now, if you have Skrtel, get rid, seems he's looking at 3 months out if normally decent rumours are right. We are now deep in sh*t street!

Vardy has a hamstring issue as well, scrub that sh*t street!

Well I've been quite smart with the loan system this season, taking out not just the cripples but the likes of Hazard for in-form players who can almost guarantee I at least break-even with the points I'm losing through the loan purchasing.

I didn't get Skrtel, I do have Vardy though but I'll be keeping him in.

I'd be looking at signing a top quality centre back in January if possible. Then I wouldn't mind Skrtel being a regular on the bench.

On Lallana, I am a fan but his stats of 5 goals and 5 assists since he signed are pretty damming

Well we were linked with Subotic recently. It's said he wants to play under Klopp again, having played for him at Mainz as well as Dortmund, and he hasn't played a lot this season, and not through injury, so if he's not exactly favoured by the current manager then we could go in for him. The injury to Lovren was unfortunate, and I think it hastened Sakho's return. The injury to Skrtel is a blow, even if he hasn't been amazing this season. It might change his mind on spending a bit of money in January on a defender.

Sakho and Toure are our only "fit" senior centrebacks, with Sakho just coming back from injury and Toure being a bit past it and might struggle due to the lack of gametime. Other than Can covering at CB we'll have to rely on them two staying fit, or there being cover in the reserves.

We have Leicester, Sunderland, West Ham and Stoke (League Cup) within 10 days of each other, include Exeter on the 8th and that's five games in 13 days. Would be difficult to rely on an old CB and another CB who's had a few injury problems, and that's assuming we manage to get someone else in during or after this. Fortunately Google suggests that Lovren might not be that much of a worry, and he might even be available for Leicester on Boxing Day. Strange thing is he's right-footed but is better suited on the left.

Lewandowski might be missing his spiritual father,Mr Klopp

Probabably not as much as playing for the biggest club in the world, recieving the £200k+ per week Madrid could pay him as well as competing for major honours year in year out.

post of the year!