i thought from your post you were making a point of klopp not doing much business in jan being a problem and you not being happy with it. guess I was wrong.

As for the klopp having words bit. there isnt really an argument to be had. he can have words and say its not good enough etc etc but that doesnt mean bad performances are gonna stop. We both know It's not that easy!

I just dont get why some fans get the impression that when we put in a bad performance, the manager doesn't make it clear to the players it isn't good enough.

its like they want to see the manager come out on TV and have a right go. I dont think he needs to do that. keeping it in the dressing room is fine!

You were. If you re-read I simply mentioned what he himself had said about it. No moaning about it on my part. My whole post was just all about the fact "if" he has had a go at them after our recent well below par performances in those Newc, WBA, Watford games then the effect did not last long as a few games later our performance level is poor once again.
Yes I know it's not as easy as he has a word and all is well, that was my point, it's worrying, as you'd expect a new managers words to get through to the players but for me their performances have dropped off a fair bit since the early pressing games we witnessed.
The squad we have should be doing better, they've proved in certain matches the level they can go to. So to fall below that level fair enough but not to drop off as much as they have.

As I said lets see if there is a reaction, performance wise on Tuesday night.

I think people need to understand that maybe the game Klopp wants the team to play week in week out is just not possible with the players he currently has. The way dortmund played requires a certain type of player. If it was that easy then everyone would have there team pressing like energiser bunnies.

He needs time to build his own team hence why you see the inconsistencies with the players he currently has. I see this season as his opportunity to determine which players fit the bill and which ones do not.

As for Benteke, I see many fans on forums simply think it's about more crosses into the box. That to me doesn't change anything unless Benteke's movement improves. Without clever movement crosses are pointless. Being wide and tall means nothing without movement. There is a reason why players like Hernandez or Michael Owen scored headers and goals in the box even though they were smaller than there markers and that's down to movement.

Like Lone I have hated the recent displays V Newc, Watford and WHU - we all did didn't we? It is clear as a club we are not in a good place and for that JK cannot be blamed. Obviously no LFC fan can really be optimistic about the rest of the season altho as we always do we will keep on dreaming and hoping for the best (or I will anyway)

The key questions are what to do and what JK should say in public. I would be amazed if he was not saying very different things behind the scenes to what he says in public. In fact I like the public Klopp - honest after games and also about how he does not see transfers as necessarily the answer as he wants to work with the squad he has inherited. He has to say that - the alternative is to say that they are all rubbish and need replacing and that is not going to get the best from them is it. Maybe at first he may have thought the squad was basically fine but recent displays must have shown him that he would be wrong to do so as the players simply are not good enough. We know that and he knows it too now I would think.

We would all like some new blood in January but if it does not happen that will be because we could no get anyone who would really improve the team. Fine - we are patient and wait for the summer. We have to trust JK.

The only scenario that would make me not trust him would be if we kept the same squad going into next season cos JK was happy with them - that's not going to happen is it - so I think we all need to calm down, try not to get too angry about awful displays, enjoy the good ones we do get before the summer (and there will be some and we may even win a trophy or get top 4) and then await the summer ins and outs with anticipation of a far better season and more consistent displays next season.

Yesterday he said it was a time to be angry so no doubt what he said in the dressing room would be just that. I think the wins over Chelsea and city just got people over excited and people started to think about Top 4 and even the league when really that both were unlikely. I can handle a bad season if it means a better one next year.

Speculative reports suggest a Transfer budget of circa £20m ( + any sales income from players leaving ) . I'll say this for them, FSG are pretty consistent with their numbers.

£20m won't go that far, even if they are targeting teenage talents like Grujic and Sane, or players like Matip and Subotic.
As for Ter Stegen, even if he is an interest, he seems to be very ( prohibitively ) expensive; unless a player is going the other way as part of a swap or we sell one or two for good money. But, I think I might file this one with the Benzema and Lacazette stories.

he will when he has his own players.

I might not like some of the recent results, But time and transfer windows will pay off, Patience is needed we have an injury depleted squad with very few natural leaders who are learning a new style of play.

A period of transition is depressing but very much needed (again), At the end of the storm, there’s a golden sky.

Is Grujic going back to Belgrade or not?

He is going back till end of the season

I liked the jurgen klopp he is one of the best manager in europe but liverpool player is not enough

Yup, its still BRs team.

From FB:


While it would be nice to have him this season it could've benefitted us if we let him stay there. Having someone experience winning a league title can't be a bad thing.

Sturridge out of the semi

Looks like it, our sickbay is packed with players who would all make the first team, sad!

Joe Gomez
Injury: Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury
Estimated return date: Ruled out for the season

Danny Ings
Injury: Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury
Estimated return date: Ruled out for the season

Jon Flanagan
Injury: Knee Cartilage Injury
Estimated return date: Fitness related. January / February 2016

Martin Skrtel
Injury: Hamstring Strain.
Estimated return date: Early-to-mid February
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Daniel Sturridge
Injury: Hamstring Strain
Estimated return date: Close. 7-14 days.

Jordan Henderson
Injury: Heel Injury.
Estimated return date: Still being assessed.

James Milner
Injury: Calf Strain.
Estimated return date: Close. Possibly the League Cup.

Jordan Rossiter
Injury: Hamstring Strain
Estimated return date: Mid-January.

Add to that that Sakho came back too early and is not match fit, and overall it's just one big headache for Klopp. So many matches coming up - so few fit (and capable) men to play them.

Shocker.

What's the news with Origi?

Aaaagh! Forgot that one - possibly to end of month before he'll be back.

Anyone else? We can nearly make a decent 1st 11 'injured team'.

Klopp said Sturridge has been having a few minor injuries recently...

It's got to be a psychological problem with him. It's not that he doesn't want to play or anything, just...well it can't be right being THAT injury prone that looking in the mirror puts him out for a month.

We had similar troubles with Saha towards the end of his time with us, he just couldn't stay fit no matter what we tried to do for him.

Perhaps it is best to cut your losses with him?

What is the point if he is only going to play a few games per season?
Best to get someone else in who you can depend upon more often I would have thought.

Easier said then done. Who buys him? The player then has to agree to walk away from a lucrative contract.

His here to stay.


Did he?


Seems to me he said he missed one training session and they are still putting him through pre-season. Really not that damatic or too different what he said about Sturridge last week.

Yep, I reckon his head may have gone, in that he has a fear of inflicting more pain on himself. He has been through so much pain already, and after a while even morphine doesn't hack it. He needs to spend time with a dammed good psychologist to try and clear his mind of the fear, I'm sure LFC will be working all ways they can with him. He's on a long term contract with us, so no way is he leaving, he'd be stupid to frankly..

I hope he can be sorted, it will be sad to see another amazing talent lost on the scrap heap way too soon, but, for the next few years he's a Liverpool man, so we look after him.

Lmfao.

they will be we have far more money then dortmund

Amazing to get a team on the pitch at all, really Difficult times......