Well chuffed for him, in this day of age where players come and go, he has been one of the most dedicated players.

Crouch in there to cause havoc in the air for our defenders.

Hence why we are working very hard at stopping the supply at source - doing we'll some far but need to improve our passing as well. Picking Walters and Crouch telegraphed Stoke's understandable intentions to prey on our weakness in the air at the back.

Can is very wasteful. Stoke look dangerous

1-0 Stoke, right on half time.

That was coming. We have been to wasteful. I can see us ballsing this up

Was offside as well.

Another game where Joe Allen should be playing.

We can't defend so we need better strikers to balance the goals we leak.

Well offside for that goal.

Our last ball is dire, needs sorting.

Sakho is shocking tonight.

Disagree with the commentator - Stoke haven't blunted us, we've blunted ourselves as our final ball has been atrocious - is it very windy or something?

Still, we can only improve.

Another case of 1 on target and they score. Yep our end ball is the issue.

We look dreadful again. Lots of pointless passing in the Stoke half because we have no clever movement. Moreno is letting Walters get in behind far too easily. They must have identified him as a weakness.

Has he? Moreno has been the weak link in the back four.

I like Can but its very much potential and Allen should start instead of him. A far better passer of the ball.

Moreno has always been the weak link in the back 4, but Sakho is way too slow, it's like he's only 50% fit, changes need to be made, now!

For gods sake we need to steady ourselves here as we are throwing this away

Were going out here, giving the ball away, and can't defend for toffee, jumping up to head the ball away, and bloody missing it, were all over the shop.

Yep it's coming. We are a disaster at the moment

Well done Sakho, they were in again from the set piece.

Hmmm... Henderson was the only one of our players who was finding a red shirt.

I haven't given up like the usual doom merchants on here have though

Here comes Chad...

That was a chance

klopp has to give Allen more game time. he deserves to start and can keep the ball!

we been really poor today though, passing has been awful. midfield have been totally bossed by stoke.

remember when fans use to say glen johnson couldnt defend. he is twice the defender moreno is.

moreno switches off far too often. he is a good player but man his defensive awareness sometimes is so off.

Seemed to look a bit off physically and with Henderson fitness is such a big part of his game that he needs to be up to speed.

How bad are we that we cant get a shot on target You just know this is going to go to Extra time and penalties