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Old 12-07-2015, 18:52
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Utd supposedly in for Benteke now.
Hopefully they will get him as he is not a good fit for us. One player i will be happy if they pip us to the post.
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Old 12-07-2015, 18:53
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Selling an attacking player less prolific than Welbeck for £50m. Christ.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:06
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Hopefully they will get him as he is not a good fit for us. One player i will be happy if they pip us to the post.
C'mon now you've got nearly 50 million burning a hole in your pocket.

Be a shame not to use it.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:17
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C'mon now you've got nearly 50 million burning a hole in your pocket.

Be a shame not to use it.
Doesn't 20% go to QPR though so we won't have the whole £49m
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:22
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Benteke will sign I think.

Personally I would love the club to go all out for Lacazzete and see if they can tempt lyon.

We have time which is good thing.

Suarez hurt as regardless of how much we got for him he couldn't be replaced.

While I would of liked to of seen sterling grow and become world class here it's not like his not replaceable.
The problem there is Lacazzete really wants to stay at Lyon and he's attempting to use other clubs' interest to flush a big contract out of them. But it would be a huge statement to get him; as would Pedro or Reus.

I have a feeling that Sterling's replacement will be either Ntep or Cheryshev and I'm not particularly keen on either, tbh.

Benteke at over £25m isn't really great value and as others have pointed out, we'd need to become more of a crossing and counter attacking team to get the best out of him. We could end up with two distinct styles though: one with Benteke and two wide attackers and another more passing formation with Sturridge/Ings backed up by Coutinho and Firmino behind them.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:24
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Doesn't 20% go to QPR though so we won't have the whole £49m
I think it does.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:24
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Doesn't 20% go to QPR though so we won't have the whole £49m
Correct and it would be 20% on the £44 mil as the £5 mil add ons isn't guaranteed.

Considering city initially bid £25 mil and have now moved £24 mil for the player either they are not very good negotiators or we really are not playing when it comes to selling prized assets. The club say a price and won't be moved.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:30
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Correct and it would be 20% on the £44 mil as the £5 mil add ons isn't guaranteed.

Considering city initially bid £25 mil and have now moved £24 mil for the player either they are not very good negotiators or we really are not playing when it comes to selling prized assets. The club say a price and won't be moved.
Im amazed City went as high as they did. It suggests that they dont really care how much they pay and as you say, aren't very good at negotiations. Liverpool certainly played a blinder.

Regardless of home grown requirements if you think about all the players in world football that could be bought for £50m or less I would have thought City would have pulled out and looked elsewhere and waited to see how Liverpool and Sterling reacted. It seems Liverpool didn't have to play hardball for long before City caved.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:33
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Hopefully they will get him as he is not a good fit for us. One player i will be happy if they pip us to the post.
They probably will, as we can't offer him anything.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:40
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Im amazed City went as high as they did. It suggests that they dont really care how much they pay and as you say, aren't very good at negotiations. Liverpool certainly played a blinder.

Regardless of home grown requirements if you think about all the players in world football that could be bought for £50m or less I would have thought City would have pulled out and looked elsewhere and waited to see how Liverpool and Sterling reacted. It seems Liverpool didn't have to play hardball for long before City caved.
I think the homegrown player issue played a part, especially seeing as Delph decided not to go to City after all.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:44
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I think the homegrown player issue played a part, especially seeing as Delph decided not to go to City after all.
Yeah city were never just gonna sign home grown players they did not actually want. It's a crazy deal and could very well end up being a huge mistake.

Good deal for Liverpool.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:46
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They probably will, as we can't offer him anything.
Like we couldn't offer Nathan clyde or firminho anything.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:47
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They probably will, as we can't offer him anything.
Make you wonder how they sign any player considering it's so bad
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:49
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Like we couldn't offer Nathan clyde or firminho anything.
I think he meant that you couldn't offer him anything over and above what United could. Not sure United were in for either of those players you mention (although I would have liked us to have gone for Clyne).

Actually think Benteke would be a good signing for either side.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:53
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Im amazed City went as high as they did. It suggests that they dont really care how much they pay and as you say, aren't very good at negotiations. Liverpool certainly played a blinder.

Regardless of home grown requirements if you think about all the players in world football that could be bought for £50m or less I would have thought City would have pulled out and looked elsewhere and waited to see how Liverpool and Sterling reacted. It seems Liverpool didn't have to play hardball for long before City caved.
A club will pay whatever is required to get the player. United overpaid for Shaw, Mata and Fellani because they wanted them. I didn't see United fans complaining.
City wanted him and paid the asking price. They have deep pockets just like United.

Probably ended well for both clubs.
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:53
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He is such a **** it will nice if he does bomb as Man City , he is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.

Look at Owen , Fowler , Gerrard at his age and all was miles ahead of him .
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Old 12-07-2015, 19:59
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Sterling has won no friends but ultimately doubled his wages - Liverpool have wrapped him in cotton wool the last couple of years but for the money and wages City have paid Sterling needs to realise that the kid gloves will be well and truly off now ...

Will he step up to the mark?? I have my doubts but ultimately clubs like City can afford to take a chance on plenty of duff players in the hope of uncovering that gem.
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:03
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A club will pay whatever is required to get the player. United overpaid for Shaw, Mata and Fellani because they wanted them. I didn't see United fans complaining.
City wanted him and paid the asking price. They have deep pockets just like United.

Probably ended well for both clubs.
Did you not? I saw a hell of a lot of United fans complain about the fees for Fellaini and Shaw.

City do have deep pockets and they can afford it. All Im saying is I would question paying that amount for this particular player when you stack it up against what else £50m *should* be able to get you.
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:06
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I think he meant that you couldn't offer him anything over and above what United could. Not sure United were in for either of those players you mention (although I would have liked us to have gone for Clyne).

Actually think Benteke would be a good signing for either side.
that's all relative though. Take turan for example which reports said Utd and Chelsea wanted. What could either offer which Barcelona couldn't.

Some clubs can pay better than us, have more fans than us, are bigger clubs than us and win more trophies than us. It's been that way for the best part of 20 years.

That's just the way football is.
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:10
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that's all relative though. Take turan for example which reports said Utd and Chelsea wanted. What could either offer which Barcelona couldn't.

Some clubs can pay better than us, have more fans than us, are bigger clubs than us and win more trophies than us. It's been that way for the best part of 20 years.

That's just the way football is.
Yes, which was more or less my point.
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:11
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There's a lot of natural talent there, But he is a rough diamond and could go either way, I shall wish him good luck and forget about him, Hope the remainder of the cash after QPR's bit is spent wisely.
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:13
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Did you not? I saw a hell of a lot of United fans complain about the fees for Fellaini and Shaw.
Heh, yup...

I take your points.

I just think, even as a hot young prospect, the amount we paid for Shaw was bordering on the absurd.

Is there a feeling he might turn into something more than a quality LB? Right now I can't see him doing much other than running really fast down the wing and then falling over and being out for six months!
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:22
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I'm actually amazed we managed to get that much for Sterling. In the long term he could become a very good player but right now I feel like we've improved upon him by getting Firmino in.

Hoping there are more good signings to come.
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:54
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I'm 100 percent positive we will buy Benteke and that might be it.

All this talk of Lacazette and Reus is pure FIFA or Football Manager fantasy!
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Old 12-07-2015, 20:59
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I'm hoping ibe will turn into top quality player and that he'll have more respect for liverpool than sterling did.
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