Originally Posted by LONERIDER37:
“Struggling to see how Uefa can do us for illicit chanting yet not Man Utd. So our idiots cannot chant Munich (agreed) but their supporters can chant Murderers? hmm, typical Uefa.
Granted the other charges for both sets are fair enough but how can the chanting of murderers not be illicit chanting too?”
Says what most of us are thinking. Tbh I did not hear the Munich stuff but probably there would be a handful doing it - which I roundly condemn obviously - but it only takes afew and the rest of us have to suffer - but last week there were vast numbers of the away support chanting over Hillsborough and it could be heard on the TV clearly =- so of course double standards.
I would hesitate to call EUFA either corrupt or pro MUFC altho I have seen some who have done but I do think they are pretty incompetant.
Throwing the seats was shocking - unacceptable obviously and it was pretty inflammatory of a LFC fan to put a banner up in amongst the MUFC fans but to me the worst of all was last weeks chants after which there has been zero action from EUFA - and as far as I know MUFC.
Originally Posted by TheSloth:
“Glad to get the United tie out of the way and any opposition from hereon in is frankly not going to carry as much baggage and friction. Like Dortmund, I wouldn't have complained if United had beaten us fair & square - it's all the stuff off the field that's insufferable and I'm glad it's done and dusted. I wish both clubs' fans could move on from the tit-for-tat baiting - if either set of fans really got some momentum behind a campaign to clean things up things WOULD change (to some degree at the very least) so the attitude that it'll never change is just weak. It might not disappear altogether but it can most definitely change if enough felt strongly enough about it to act.”
The Dortmund tie will be 100% different as Dortmund are a 100% different club to MUFC.
Re MUFC I do think JK could be a good addition to the mix as he comes over as having nowhere near the hate towards MUFC that some LFC fans have - but I did not hear much said in a similar vein from LVG on their side (all he could say was quotes about LFC living in the past). Also the post chanting statement last week from MUFC lacked a direct apology to the families and LFC which imo it should have contained - and that would have helped.
You see in the past with Shanks and Busby there was respect but that has long gone and all we have now a lot of the time is real hatred - and at times I know i am guilty of it myself - not to the extent of Munich chants or wrecking OT but I do get very animated in the LFC V MUFC games far more than against any other club.
One thing I would love to see is a direct transfer between them for instance but whether it can happen who knows - the first player to make such a move would have to be very brave