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Liverpool Supporters Thread (Part 21)
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South Coast52
10-04-2016
Correction

Spurs 3 - 0
Orchideam
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by South Coast52:
“Spurs have just gone 1 - 0 up.”

3 up!
Michael_Vaughan
10-04-2016
Great to see Origi getting three in two games now.Really happy with his development over the season and the best is yet to come. Agree that Rodgers and the transfer committee got his signing spot on. They deserve praise along with Klopp and the current coaching squad for giving him game time.
Sebastian1992
10-04-2016
I went to watch the game in the bar, ended up working instead. What I caught of the game impressed me considering the changes to the team. Still think sadly, Skrtel needs to be off soon.

Allen is fantastic. He I feel, is quite underrated, because he tends to be full of energy, and plays simple passes, but he has this way of controlling our tempo.

Ojo impressed me, and Stewart just got on with his job.

The future under Klopp looks good. Feeling positive about the Dortmund game too, hopefully the good Liverpool show up, and not the Southampton game style Liverpool..
misawa97
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by Sebastian1992:
“I went to watch the game in the bar, ended up working instead. What I caught of the game impressed me considering the changes to the team. Still think sadly, Skrtel needs to be off soon.

Allen is fantastic. He I feel, is quite underrated, because he tends to be full of energy, and plays simple passes, but he has this way of controlling our tempo.

Ojo impressed me, and Stewart just got on with his job.

The future under Klopp looks good. Feeling positive about the Dortmund game too, hopefully the good Liverpool show up, and not the Southampton game style Liverpool..”

Allen is a terrific player. The criticism he seems to recieve whenever he plays and we lose is ridiculous.
TheMunch
10-04-2016
I think Klopp likes Joe Allen. When we first appointed Klopp I said he'll like Joe Allen, and that seems to be the case. I wouldn't be surprised, or disappointed, to see him here next season, even as a squad player.
Sebastian1992
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“I think Klopp likes Joe Allen. When we first appointed Klopp I said he'll like Joe Allen, and that seems to be the case. I wouldn't be surprised, or disappointed, to see him here next season, even as a squad player.”

I'd much prefer Allen as vice-captain than Milner. He leads by example.
TheMunch
10-04-2016
Milner was brought in to sort of soften the blow of losing Gerrard. Of all the Gerrard things he could have taken as his own he went with Gerrard's often-poor corners!
Sebastian1992
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Milner was brought in to sort of soften the blow of losing Gerrard. Of all the Gerrard things he could have taken as his own he went with Gerrard's often-poor corners!”

I actually like Milner, I just think he isn't a good captain.

He always puts a good shift in, so you can't fault him for effort.

But yeah, his set-pieces aren't great and he's not the most creative.
TheSloth
10-04-2016
To be fair to Milner, today's efforts take him to 9 assists in the league. With his 5 goals too, I'm happy with his contribution - aside from those corners of course!
Sebastian1992
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by TheSloth:
“To be fair to Milner, today's efforts take him to 9 assists in the league. With his 5 goals too, I'm happy with his contribution - aside from those corners of course!”

I have no issues with Milner. I just think he has the ability to have a bigger impact.
TheMunch
10-04-2016
I may have just learned a painful lesson on Ultimate. When a player has two matches in one game week you can't sub them out then sub them back in again. Lukaku and Barkley had poor scores so I took them out for Kane and Coutinho. Kane only got 4 (2x2, my captain) and Coutinho didn't play. I can't bring Lukaku and Barkley back in. Now Lukaku's going to get a hat-trick against Crystal Palace and Ross Barkley is going to assist all three.
Orchideam
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“I may have just learned a painful lesson on Ultimate. When a player has two matches in one game week you can't sub them out then sub them back in again. Lukaku and Barkley had poor scores so I took them out for Kane and Coutinho. Kane only got 4 (2x2, my captain) and Coutinho didn't play. I can't bring Lukaku and Barkley back in. Now Lukaku's going to get a hat-trick against Crystal Palace and Ross Barkley is going to assist all three.”

****snigger****
Sebastian1992
11-04-2016
Lovren looks heartbroken: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...d=106837613413

Yeah, I know it's 90mins...
Orchideam
11-04-2016
Current topic of conversation amongst LFC's media and fans.

Should we hold onto Joe Allen? He has one year left on contract now, and as far as is known, no signs that he will be offered a renewal.

For me? I would keep him over and above other options we have. He might be small, but he really does know how to read a game, make the right moves to change the speed of play, and has proven to be dedicated and fearless. Someone noted that when he's on the bench, he watches every move of the game intently, taking in as much detail of players as he can. He has rarely been subbed on without making an impression and improvement in match play, frankly, I would be gutted if he left.
Michael_Vaughan
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
“Current topic of conversation amongst LFC's media and fans.

Should we hold onto Joe Allen? He has one year left on contract now, and as far as is known, no signs that he will be offered a renewal.

For me? I would keep him over and above other options we have. He might be small, but he really does know how to read a game, make the right moves to change the speed of play, and has proven to be dedicated and fearless. Someone noted that when he's on the bench, he watches every move of the game intently, taking in as much detail of players as he can. He has rarely been subbed on without making an impression and improvement in match play, frankly, I would be gutted if he left.”

I think Joe is a very good player to have in the squad.If someone better became available then I wouldn't mind him being let go.
TheSloth
11-04-2016
Joe Allen is one of those perpetual, continuity players who keeps the ball and tempo moving. I'd have thought Klopp would like him given the way he wants us to play. Same goes for Henderson really. Players who do what they do and create/score regularly are very rare.
Sebastian1992
11-04-2016
I think Allen is an essential part of the squad. I really hope he's offered a new contract.
Assa2
11-04-2016
I suspect we'll keep him to the end of his contract and he'll head off on a free to one of the smaller clubs for a big payday, and fair play to him. I think he's a great player who deserves to be playing more often but he's not going to get that at Liverpool.
TheMunch
11-04-2016
‪#‎LFC‬ are pursuing Dahoud. Klopp is an admirer of the player renowned for his stamina and technical ability. (Tony Barrett)

Klopp has targeted highly rated Borussia Monchengladbach starlet Mahmoud Dahoud as he looks to reshape #LFC’s midfield. (Paul Joyce)


Don't know the pronunciation of that name, I'm reading "Dahoud" as "da hood" and wondering if Klopp is going ghetto on us.

We've also been linked with the Eredivisie top goalscorer, Vincent Jannsen, by someone called Don Balon, plays for AZ who are currently in 6th. He has 21 goals in 30 appearances (28 starts) in the league. He is 21, turns 22 in June. AZ themselves have 56 goals in the league. Supposedly £9.8m or something like that.
alancracker
12-04-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“I may have just learned a painful lesson on Ultimate. When a player has two matches in one game week you can't sub them out then sub them back in again. Lukaku and Barkley had poor scores so I took them out for Kane and Coutinho. Kane only got 4 (2x2, my captain) and Coutinho didn't play. I can't bring Lukaku and Barkley back in. Now Lukaku's going to get a hat-trick against Crystal Palace and Ross Barkley is going to assist all three.”

So you could have been hoping Lukaku got a hat trick??? - being an old fogie I do none of these things and only ever want LFC and its players to do well and I am very glad to be that way

Allen? - I think he has improved and now I quite like him and if poss want him to stay. The problem is that JK may not be able to guarantee him many starts and so from his pov it may be best to leave. A season or two ago my son described him as a grey player and that summed him up - very anonymous with no great attributes apart from keeping the ball by passing it side ways!! Also there were some games where he was simply muscled out of it due to his small stature (MUFC at home last season).

Now tho I feel he has worked on his game and is stronger, is more likely to get in the box (and even score as he has had several shots and chances), presses better and tries attacking passes more. In fact at times I feel he is better than some who are much more automatic picks like Hendo (this season) and Milner. So for me it is definitely a vote for keeping him but whether we will I am not sure as JK seems to see him as behind some others in the pecking order.
TheMunch
12-04-2016
Originally Posted by alancracker:
“So you could have been hoping Lukaku got a hat trick??? - being an old fogie I do none of these things and only ever want LFC and its players to do well and I am very glad to be that way
”

If I had been able to sub him back in, yes. But now I'd like him to get an own goal. No room for club bias in fantasy football. It's serious business.
Orchideam
13-04-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“If I had been able to sub him back in, yes. But now I'd like him to get an own goal. No room for club bias in fantasy football. It's serious business.”

I suggest you take a Tramadol before looking at this weeks Ultimate, it's a doozie, 15 matches over 6 days. I think I might just ignore it and let it do it's own thing!
TheMunch
13-04-2016
Well seems I didn't lose much with the two subs. Lukaku 2 points in total from the four games. Barkley got 4 tonight, so 6 in total so if I left him on instead of putting on 0-points Coutinho I'd be +6pts better off, or at least +4 if the thing wasn't rigged.

Hennessey got me 17 points though so that's not bad. Forgot he was there, not sure if making him the captain was an option.
Sebastian1992
14-04-2016
Originally Posted by alancracker:
“So you could have been hoping Lukaku got a hat trick??? - being an old fogie I do none of these things and only ever want LFC and its players to do well and I am very glad to be that way

Allen? - I think he has improved and now I quite like him and if poss want him to stay. The problem is that JK may not be able to guarantee him many starts and so from his pov it may be best to leave. A season or two ago my son described him as a grey player and that summed him up - very anonymous with no great attributes apart from keeping the ball by passing it side ways!! Also there were some games where he was simply muscled out of it due to his small stature (MUFC at home last season).

Now tho I feel he has worked on his game and is stronger, is more likely to get in the box (and even score as he has had several shots and chances), presses better and tries attacking passes more. In fact at times I feel he is better than some who are much more automatic picks like Hendo (this season) and Milner. So for me it is definitely a vote for keeping him but whether we will I am not sure as JK seems to see him as behind some others in the pecking order.”


I don't think Allen has changed his game at all. He's carried on the same sort of form he's always shown, even from his Swansea days. He was just vastly under appreciated.

That being said, perhaps the beard helps ?
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