Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“What's an 'LFC type player'?
And was £35m on Mr. Andrew Carroll not 'silly money'?”
LFC type player? - it'd taker too long for me to explain what I mean - and then you probably would argue with me so I will just leave it if you don't mind.
I do actually think that most of the current squad fit the mold of what I would want in a player altho yes for sure though over the years there have been many signed who have not been LFC style players, I can agree with that.
Carroll? - 35m was far more than his worth at the time - altho frankly now i would put him at that value (certainly if some seem to see Benteke as worth 32m - and Carroll is better than him) and as has been said it was cos we had just received 50m from CFC and had no main striker on the books - so it was a panic buy in a way and a bad panic buy.
MUFC have spent the kind of money they have this summer and 2 summers ago on De Maria with no major incoming transfers to fund it, CFC did that in the early days of Roman - it is called by many trying to buy the league - including Mourinho last summer ironically enough when he was still at CFC.
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“If we could be in the market for someone like Zlatan, or pay that sort of money on Pogba then we would do. We tried to get Mario Gotze, even if it was £20m. Mané wasn't cheap, or Benteke, or Adam Lallana, or Lovren.
Zlatan isn't an LFC-type player because he wouldn't fit into our system, and Klopp probably wouldn't want him, but really we aren't that different or more special than other big clubs when it comes to transfers. If he could've benefitted us and we thought we were able to get him then we would have gone for him. Klopp might not have wanted him but other LFC managers would have. Rafa Benitez wasn't shy about spending money, and it's not like we bought our current squad out of a charity shop.
Andy Carroll remains our most expensive signing at £35m, but I can see that being broken in the near future as inflation continues to hit the football economy.
If Suárez became available right now for £60m and we had the money do you think we wouldn't go for it? He's an LFC-type player in that he'd have the workrate and ability to fit into the system, but he doesn't cost a tenner so is he still an LFC-type player? And it's not like we're short of egos. Sturridge, Sakho, Karius? I'm not even gonna include Balotelli in this.”
Suarez is the ultimate LFC type player, - a brilliant player who was a winner whose played for the team - think Keegan, Kenny, Rush, Gerrard as maybe the best other examples but there have been many over the years. Houllier and Rafa went back to some of these ideals after the spice boy era when we really lost ground in terms of professionalism.
Balotelli is the ultimate non LFC type player and why we went for him I have no idea except that he was available and we needed a player. I totally disagree about us going after Pogba and Zlatan - Klopp does not want those type of players due in part to ego issues. We would not be against spending big money if needed but we would not want people who put themselves above the team. He knew Gotze and so that was why he was considered - Lewandowski the same but anyway as a non CL team it is hard to bring in players at that level at the moment - maybe a year or two down the line? The LFC buys you list are far below the level of the spending of the likes of MUFC, CFC and MCFC and are probably value for money in today's market and i really do not see the egos of the players you list as similar to Zlatan ...etc. Think Messi compared to Ronaldo - Messi would fit into the philosophy at LFC, Ronaldo wouldn't. But I doubt you will agree - I think in short me and you are from different eras of LFC fan - how much do you actually know about the ideas of Bill Shankly?
Originally Posted by Michael_Vaughan:
“I don't consider myself a modern ' sky sports generation' football fan as I am 40 next year and can still remember watching our last league title win against QPR at Anfield as a 13 year old in 1990. .”
Unlike most DS LFC contributors I was a fan when we used to really win things and were the best team - 60s, 70s and 80s so you will have come in at the end of that era, an era borne out of the vision of one man. I refer of course to Bill Shankly whose ideas are still at the club now in some ways but less and less so altho I think he and Klopp would have agreed on a lot.. I'll tell you what it was great to be a LFC fan in the days when we were dominant but they can never return in the same way with the role money now plays in the game. I stilll retain the hope that one day we will win the league again - and with Klopp as the manager I have never been so hopeful