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Old 27-08-2016, 14:28
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Fingers crossed Matip can build on today and be the dominant centre half we've missed.
He was a standout performer.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:28
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A point away at Spurs is always a good result, but it feels like we've let two points slip away. The game seemed like our's for the taking, but Spurs stepped it up on the second half. Michel Vorm was on it today, and after their goal it felt like we lost a bit going forward.

I would have brought Sturridge on earlier, or even started him or Origi. I wouldn't have started with Firmino in that position against a team like Spurs.

Oh well, could've been worse, and there are positives to take from it. Mané continues to impress, looks like he got tired a bit in the second half. Being at risk of getting sent off wouldn't have helped. Hendo played better than he has done recently, and Wijnaldum had more presence in this game I felt. Our MOTM for me would be either Mané or Milner. Matip is a contender, too.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:28
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Matip picks up a cheap yellow on the verge of the final whistle.

After Burnley I'd have taken a point today but disappointed not to win after that first half dominance.

Playing at Anfield at long last again next time. The champions Leicester await us there.
That doesn't fill me with confidence either as we've lost some stupid games at home last season.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:29
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Really not convinced we needed Wijnaldum.

Sturridge on after 87 mins very bizarre.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:30
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Sky commentator suggesting Klopp thinks he needs to be more of a team player. I couldn't give a monkey's about that if he keeps on scoring.

He is on now in the 89th minute for Mane.
Thing is for us to get anywhere near the top of the table we need a player getting at least 20 goals. The only player in our team getting that is Sturridge.

If he not playing then we ain't scoring enough goals.

If he spends more time on the bench then come January he will be asking for discussion.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:31
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A point away at Spurs is always a good result, but it feels like we've let two points slip away. The game seemed like our's for the taking, but Spurs stepped it up on the second half. Michel Vorm was on it today, and after their goal it felt like we lost a bit going forward.

I would have brought Sturridge on earlier, or even started him or Origi. I wouldn't have started with Firmino in that position against a team like Spurs.

Oh well, could've been worse, and there are positives to take from it. Mané continues to impress, looks like he got tired a bit in the second half. Being at risk of getting sent off wouldn't have helped. Hendo played better than he has done recently, and Wijnaldum had more presence in this game I felt. Our MOTM for me would be either Mané or Milner. Matip is a contender, too.
Apart from Mane it looks like nothing has changed and doesn't look like it will.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:32
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Apart from Mane it looks like nothing has changed and doesn't look like it will.
I agree, damn all has really changed from the Rodgers days to be honest.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:32
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That doesn't fill me with confidence either as we've lost some stupid games at home last season.
We were one of a few teams to beat Leicester in the Anfield fixture last season.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:34
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It's only 3 games in. No need for doomsday.

A win @the arsenal and draw @ spurs isn't bad. Yes a defeat v burnley isn't good but way to early to write off the season.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:34
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I agree, damn all has really changed from the Rodgers days to be honest.
I love Klopp but it's true, the results are no different.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:40
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The team was set up right today. The performance justifies the team selection it's just the players didn't take the chances they created.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:41
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Anyone think Mignolet could of done better? Think he could of made himself bigger and not get beat near post.
If rose hadn't missed kicked it he would probably have saved it
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:46
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If rose hadn't missed kicked it he would probably have saved it
Yeah. Clyne was the biggest culprit. Once he decides to come in he has to win that ball
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:48
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Played well apart from our passing degraded once Spurs scored. Bit of a lost opportunity given how the game went but we made Spurs look poor and at least earned the opportunity to win at Spurs which is to be commended. Some people are too keen to criticise because of disappointment - not many teams will dominate Spurs like that at White Hart Lane this season. Despite the varied results, we've not been outplayed in any game away yet and, for me, that's very encouraging. We'll pick up our fair share of points on our travels if we continue like this.

Looked steadier at the back but I agree the goalkeeper could've got his angles better sorted for their goal.
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Old 27-08-2016, 14:50
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The goal aside, I thought Mignolet had a decent game.
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Old 27-08-2016, 15:24
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The goal aside, I thought Mignolet had a decent game.
Agree - he's getting more decisive at set pieces and also made several good saves.
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Old 27-08-2016, 15:51
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Again, you lot are such hard taskmasters, you were even like this after the Arsenal game with all the negatives, what is going on??

We played well, we scared the hell of of them, and overall were the far better team. Manes goal was 50/50, but was good, Couts should have had at least 2 that were set up with perfection for him, and Migs made a couple of 1st class saves that Spurs should have got - but we still should have won. I agree on that.

For those of you that can see 'nothing different to Rodgers', I suggest you look again, we are better, faster, slicker and breaking down defences better. Oh I know Burnley, that was the match (as quoted on Sky) that was Manes best match - it was when we all fully realised what a difference he makes when playing, so badly did we miss him.

We also have gone 4 matches without being at Anfield, and that we knew was going to be tough for us and the team, that bit is done now, and we came away with 1/2 the points we should have. Once we get the new stadium up and roaring there will be a massive upsurge from everyone.

Come on, think positive, W1, D1, L1 - meh, it could have been so much worse.
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Old 27-08-2016, 15:52
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Again, you lot are such hard taskmasters, you were even like this after the Arsenal game with all the negatives, what is going on??

We played well, we scared the hell of of them, and overall were the far better team. Manes goal was 50/50, but was good, Couts should have had at least 2 that were set up with perfection for him, and Migs made a couple of 1st class saves that Spurs should have got - but we still should have won. I agree on that.

For those of you that can see 'nothing different to Rodgers', I suggest you look again, we are better, faster, slicker and breaking down defences better. Oh I know Burnley, that was the match (as quoted on Sky) that was Manes best match - it was when we all fully realised what a difference he makes when playing, so badly did we miss him.

We also have gone 4 matches without being at Anfield, and that we knew was going to be tough for us and the team, that bit is done now, and we came away with 1/2 the points we should have. Once we get the new stadium up and roaring there will be a massive upsurge from everyone.

Come on, think positive, W1, D1, L1 - meh, it could have been so much worse.
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Old 27-08-2016, 17:30
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I agree, damn all has really changed from the Rodgers days to be honest.
Last season of Rodgers no good games.

Since Klopp took over less than a year ago here are some selected results - all of these games have been far more exciting than anything in the last year of Rodgers.

Man C 1 LFC 4
CFC 1 LFC 3
LFC 1 Leic 0
Norwich 4 LFC 5
AV 0 LFC 6
LFC 3 Man C 0
LFC 4 EFC 0
AFC 3 LFC 4

Capital 1 Cup
Ston 1 LFC 6

Europa League
LFC 2 MU 0
MU 1 LFC 1
BD 1 LFC 1
LFC4 BD 3
LFC 3 Villareal 0

But apart from that I agree nothing has changed
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Old 27-08-2016, 17:43
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Last season of Rodgers no good games.

Since Klopp took over less than a year ago here are some selected results - all of these games have been far more exciting than anything in the last year of Rodgers.

Man C 1 LFC 4
CFC 1 LFC 3
LFC 1 Leic 0
Norwich 4 LFC 5
AV 0 LFC 6
LFC 3 Man C 0
LFC 4 EFC 0
AFC 3 LFC 4

Capital 1 Cup
Ston 1 LFC 6

Europa League
LFC 2 MU 0
MU 1 LFC 1
BD 1 LFC 1
LFC4 BD 3
LFC 3 Villareal 0

But apart from that I agree nothing has changed
What about Tottenham 0 Liverpool 3? Rodgers did know how to beat Tottenham, 2 wins and 9 goals against them the previous season.
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Old 27-08-2016, 18:01
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Really not convinced we needed Wijnaldum.

Sturridge on after 87 mins very bizarre.
Was no point in him coming on that late, or the other 2x subs, they just ran on, and then ran straight back off, as it was FT, not much of a debut.
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Old 27-08-2016, 19:25
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Its been the same problem for years and you can deny it but it all boils down to lack of quality players. I appreciate we don't have the money but until we do we can't expect much better. Man United prime example of what spending big can do.
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Old 27-08-2016, 19:29
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UTD have just struggled to beat Hull
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Old 27-08-2016, 19:41
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UTD have just struggled to beat Hull
They still beat them, 80% possession like last week counts for damn all if you can't get a win.
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Old 27-08-2016, 20:57
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What about Tottenham 0 Liverpool 3? Rodgers did know how to beat Tottenham, 2 wins and 9 goals against them the previous season.
I was about to come back and say that was not in Rodgers' last season but you are right it was - at the start when we were still in optimistic mode from the nearly season in about the 3rd game I think. After that tho that season there was almost nothing - beating Swansea 4-1 at Anfield was probably the best performance. Don't ask me to list the really bad ones - there were at least 10 that were off the scale awful.

Point scoring apart I can agree that things now under Klopp are still not as good as we would want them to be and some of the selections and perhaps the transfer decisions some of us would dispute but we are less than a year into the journey. I think anyone with a remotely fair mind would have to look at it and say there were grounds for hope and to trust him to develop the club and the squad in a good way continuing the encouraging start he has made so far.
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