Has he?

Sorry for the bad wording. Not by owners. I was one of the people who said to give Rodgers at least till Christmas and not sack him.

Didn't get a chance to post after the game last night but I have to say we rode our luck with the decisions. Bournemouth were the better team in the first 20 minutes or so but after that we managed to settle down and control the game without creating too many clear cut chances.

Ibe wasn't very productive, I think I prefer him on the right. Coutinho picked him out with a couple of delicious passes which he failed to do anything with. Lallana is still underwhelming. I've never really thought he'd be a roaring success at Liverpool and I'm still waiting for him to prove me wrong. He can dribble and is a decent finisher but his final ball isn't good enough which means Coutinho always has to be the one to carve the defence open.

Lovren looked a little dodgy in those first 20 minutes up against the pacey Wilson, but it wasn't something that continued through the game. He and Skrtel contained their 2 strikers well after that. If he can keep these performances going then perhaps Brendan is right to trust him. I'd still rather see Sakho purely because he's got that ball-playing ability we've lacked in the first two games. Misawa is right to raise concerns over our game against Arsenal. Their midfield will dominate us if we play like we have done so far. Henderson isn't great at coming and taking it off of the back 4 and I'm not sure who can do the job if Allen isn't fit and Lucas is out of favour.

One player I'd really like to see more of is Firmino. I'm hoping he'll be the one to take some of the pressure to create chances off of Coutinho's shoulders.

French football journalist Matt Spiro says on twitter that sakho is concerned about his playing time and is considering his future.

Leverkusen ready to offer 10m Euro.

Oh right so if we aren't doing well Rodgers will get sacked on your say so?



Can I just say what a great start to the season. 2 wins 6 points 2 clean sheets. Brilliant and very pleasing. Lots of green shoots.

How lucky were Bournemouth though. They created virtually nothing and had our finishing been better we would have had 3 or 4. Lucky escape for them. Fully expect them to be relegated trying to play like that though.

Sky Sources: Liverpool reject initial approaches from Roma & Bayer Leverkusen for Mamadou Sakho

Considering Sakho left the city he grew up in and the place he learnt how to play football I def think he could go. He didnt stick around at PSG due to lack of playing time and with Euro 2016 around the corner there is not a chance he will want to stick around if his not playing.

10m Euros isnt enough but he could go for the right amount.

I'd say Liverpool were the lucky ones. Bournemouth had what was a goal disallowed and Liverpool's goal shouldn't have been so if the ref had called it right Bournemouth would have won.

It obviously doesn't work that way. If Bournemouth's goal had been allowed, the game would have changed entirely from that point on, including tactics and subs. Who knows what the result would have been.

You can say it's been great, but it doesn't make it fact. 2 wins out of 2 is clearly the best we can expect but the performances have been average to poor and if we don't improve we will get found out. "Brilliant and very pleasing" is right out of the Brendan Rodgers book of post-match quotes.

I won't dismiss how important the two wins are, but it's also the least we should be expecting. We basically have to win every home game this first half of the season if we are to have any hope if getting anything out of the season. If we're on more than 18pts come the end of October I'll be surprised given how we've played so far.

As for Bournemouth - think we watched different games. They held possession very well and we didn't exactly look comfortable in defense the whole time. For their first away game in the PL they acquitted themselves well I thought and if they play like that for the rest of the season I'd expect them to be safe. They won't be an easy team to beat at home.

Quite right. They probably would have built in confidence, penned us back in our own half even more and scored again!

Woah there... I'm pretty sure the poster you're referring to there had this thing called an opinion. Hardly worthy of such a confrontational response!

People on forums having an opinion eh. Whatever next.

Sometime your responses are a bit wild. You do not think before you type. I have always been very reasonable when discussing Liverpool games on this forum If you read through my posts last season I was one of the few who said he should not be sacked and at least be given to Christmas/end of season. I am very disappointed with your overreaction.

However I should not have to defend myself and I did not deserve such a response, perhaps you should read my posts at the closing end of last season.

I agree with you both.

There is no excuses this season. It was difficult at times with not having a striker but we have Ings, Benteke who is doing very well. Rodgers has had a lot of his own way if the rumours are to believed with regards to players and staff. Sorry if they are not.

I like Gomez - I think the players brought in are the right ones. But I agree with above something is missing.

You all make fair points regarding Bournemouth. I did post just after the match that they had a few advantages in the timing of the fixture though.It was early in the season and they were as fresh as we were.They may go to other bigger stadiums later in the season when the squad is stretched and suffer heavier defeats.Anfield is a ground that has inspired rather than intimidated a lot of so called smaller clubs over the past few years.They also had relatively recent experience of playing us in the league cup last season.

On balance, I thought 0-0 would've been the fairest result on Monday.You can argue about the ref not giving fouls every week for pushing as on Lovren but it was an offence.No way our goal should've stood either.Yes Bournemouth had lots of possession but created nothing outside the header that ended up in the net due to a foul.

Ironically, the first two away fixtures this season are to the clubs who inflicted our heaviest league defeats last season. We've banished the ghost of conceding six at Stoke and it's Arsenal up next.I'd much rather another clean sheet and 0-0 at the Emirates than scoring two or three and losing a game with goals for both sides.

This is the post which caused a previous poster to react. I have reread it to see if there is anything remotely worthy of such a reaction - there isn't in my eyes, I would say it is completely uncontroversial and would not dispute any of it.

I do vary from you Squibbles in that I am probably more anti Rodgers than you are - certainly I was at the end of last season - but that is OK, we are both entitled to our views. I think by the start of this season I had calmed down and when you look at the ins and outs at the club on and off the field there is room for a lot of optimism that we could have a good season.

Yes league position is important but more than anything I want to see improved displays and I would have to say that the 2 league performances so far have both been poor with little inspiration. However we have won 2 playing badly so that's good and if we can play a bit more fluently then I am sure more wins will follow. We have the squad to deliver that's for sure. If BR cannot get them playing to their potential then questions have to be asked. If I am honest even in the good run last year I did not think we were not that good so I want an improvement on that. That is what for me should be the criteria we consider when deciding if BR should be kept or not - and I agree that Christmas could be a good time to evaluate it - after all Klopp who would be my choice of successor is still available and hopefully he would still be at that time too

Looking at the stats for the first two games shows the problem lies down the left. 70% of our play goes down the right. We need to fix the balance of the side as eventually it's going to catch up with us.

Thanks Alan. Compared to many after last season I didn't think it was controversial either. My position is thus: we did have a very good season with Suarez, he is by far one of the best players I have seen to play for the club and he was a huge miss last season, some could argue that he didn't play for a number games at the start of that season but we know some players don't have to be involved in games but just having them at the training ground can be a motivation. We also did not have Sturridge last season. As much I disliked where we ended up and how we played towards the end the season, I thought the reasonable thing to do is just see how we go till at least Christmas. But I do understand why some posters thought him to be sackedat the end of last season and I do believe many had a fair point.

I am still hoping to see Ibe improve, did not have a good game last week but I like to see players raising through the ranks and doing well for the club.

I think Ibe needs to add more to his game. He gets the ball then doesn't seem to know what to do with it half the time. He keeps running to the byline hoping something will come off. Mix it up a little or you'll be found out quickly. Sterling was similar at first, though, always running into dead ends then he wised up and became better for it. Ibe seems smart enough, though, so I'm sure he'll learn.

The Bournemouth disallowed goal was not only a foul but also handball. Which many people seem to have missed.

Was it offside, wasn't it offside? Well I'm telling you Benteke puts that in whether coutinho was there or not.

Benteke, Milner and Coutinho all had very good chances to put us 4-0 up. How many clear cut chances did about Bournemouth create? They were lucky. They will also easily get relegated. They are toothless up front and can't defend. Working hard don't get you points.

As for Rodgers. He gets the full season irrespective. None of this Xmas rubbish spouted above.

Finally why can't people be happy when we win. Too many moaners these days. I dread to think what will happen when we lose.

As for me being a bit of a Pratt. Well let's see what the moderators think. Up to them to decide.

Agree on the BR comment. All the he has to Xmas to me is rubbish. It would he ridiculous for the club to of brought these players in, supported backroom staff changes while at the same time not really convinced in the manager to the extent his a few bad results away from the sack.


Now onto the Bournemouth game. We were at home playing a promoted side and I don't think I could honestly say we were in control of the game. The first 20 mins were terrible and although we improved we still never looked like we were going to run away with the game.

The shape wasn't good a better side would of punished us for how exposed we looked at times.

I'm a big BR fan but not convinced with this system at the moment.

V arsenal I would prefer a 4-4-2 diamond. Play narrow and make arsenal play through us.

I think the current setup will see arsenal overload on their right hand side and expose our weakness on the left.

Can I for the last time say I have not once called for Rodgers to be sacked - I really wish FMs would read my posts. I said last season give him the season and then after a discussion here I relented to be fair to ask him to be a least be judged to Christmas to air our views. I will not go back on my words because that is what I agree with FMs here. Not once have I said for him to be sacked. I really wish FMs would stop writing things that I have supposed to have written when I have not. In fact I was one of few posters who was defending the guy and his record. Think some FMs have micro memories....

To ask for a well reasoned discussion about this half of the seasons performance to see if there is an improvement from lady season is in my opinion a fair question to ask as would it be for any big company.

Lady Season?

Are we talking about Liverpool Ladies FC?



Last season I presume.

Unless things go disastrously, Hodgesonesquely wrong in the opening 3 months I don't think FSG are likely to get rid of Rodgers until the end of the season anyway (if then). They just don't seem to be those sort of owners. He survived last season despite an appalling first 3 months after all. Unless we're top 4 of very close this season I don't think he'll be the manager this time next year.

Personally, however, I'd be giving him until the end of October to show improvement else I'd start looking for a replacement to be installed in early December. I'll be the first to admit that I've gone off him substantially.

I agree with most of this. I genuinely think that Bournemouth's goal was CORRECTLY disallowed, and we did indeed create the 3 best chances of the game, which everyone seems to be overlooking. Had those gone in and we won 4-0 (with nothing else changing), then nobody would be complaining. I guess the finishing still needs work.

The only thing I'd disagree about is Benteke's goal. Had Coutinho not been there, then I think any keeper worth their salt would come and collect that cross.

I'm not convinved its top 4 or bust. I think its more about a being comepetitive and well in the race for the top 4.

Top 4 or bust to me is unrealistic when you see the top 4 sides we are competing against. It's by no means unrealistic to break into the top 4 again but season in season out not a chance regardless of who is the Manager.


That would be real mismanagment @ board level. Sanctioning player buys which a new manager may not like and then having to pay off the manager and his staff while forking out on a replacement and new staff.

FSG have made there bed now and it would have to take a disaster 3 months of the season to even contemplate change.