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Liverpool Supporters Thread (Part 21)
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TheSloth
17-10-2016
Jose knew our press was ineffective against a team not going forward with any pace or numbers - took the momentum out of the game and we're not as good from a standing start. Clean sheet though...
South Coast52
17-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“First clean sheet of the season though, GET IN THERE! ”

I wish my pants were clean.

That Ibrahimovich header.


Michael_Vaughan
17-10-2016
Jurgen finishes his interview by saying

' A clean sheet at last, yippee yai ay'

Says it's the only thing he's happy about though. Felt we were a bit overawed and played within ourselves during the first half in particular.
owen10
17-10-2016
When i see Jurgen Klopp i see Stephen Merchant
South Coast52
17-10-2016
Don't you just love Jurgen Klopp?

What a great interview he has just given. He accepts all the negativity that a Mourniho team gives as just a part of the game and he only blames his own players for not taking advantage of it.

The man is pure class.

He may not like his own face. I love it.
openarms
17-10-2016
Played with more fluidity the minute Lallana came on for Sturridge. Better movement and interplay in the final third. De Gea is a fabulous keeper. Can seemed comparatively slow on the ball in midfield. Missed some training sessions according to Klopp.

They passed the ball much better than us in the first half. No attacking intent and 45 mins down the swanny which Jose would have loved. If he's smart he'll keep Rooney off the pitch as they're quicker without him.

Would almost have preferred a 2:2 to get us top of the goals scored table.

Clean sheet and a point better than slap with a wet fish. Just.
TheSloth
17-10-2016
It's telling when the visit of Pulis' Baggies will be welcome after tonight's famine!
Parthenon
18-10-2016
Mourinho did what he does best, came to kill the game and it worked in the first half. It's a shame to see a great talent like Rashford operating in the 'Willian role' as a right wing back for the entire game.

Nothing really happened of note in the first half other than United committing a heap of fouls, although once Anthony Taylor pulled out the yellow for Bailly (a very, very soft yellow) they calmed it a bit and in the 2nd half we were able to dominate. We seemed to panic a bit in the final third at times.

Don't know how to put it exactly but there were many moments when we had the ball in great areas in and around their box but we either scuffed it or made the wrong decision time and time again. Firmino lost the ball so many times when he was in midfield, I much prefer him up top. Sadly Sturridge just doesn't have his pace anymore and his touch was terrible tonight.

Still, a point is better than nothing. We'll just have to hammer West Brom next week to make up for it.
Sick Bullet
18-10-2016
Let's make the most of Chelsea v Man U this weekend.
Malbren
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“Let's make the most of Chelsea v Man U this weekend.”

I wonder if Mourinho will employ those tactics away at all the big clubs, i.e Chelsea, Arsenal, City etc or was it special to us?

If he does they could be out the title race in a fortnight.

Their fans wont be singing 21 times anytime soon imo with those ideas.

I'd hate to go to Old Trafford with the sole intention of stopping Man Utd playing first and foremost and hoping to nick a goal or walk away with a point. Don't get me wrong I'd take a point at their place but I'd be disappointed if we set up for one only.

If only De Gea had gone to RM, top keeper he is.

We didn't perform as we can for sure and yes credit to Man Utd for that but they are not West Brom but perhaps it was West Brom tactics? Let's hope we have better luck with them
Michael_Vaughan
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Malbren:
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I'd hate to go to Old Trafford with the sole intention of stopping Man Utd playing first and foremost and hoping to nick a goal or walk away with a point. o”

Being a fickle bugger, I'll be delighted if we do that in the away fixture at United in January and it gets us three points

We need variety in our style if we're going to finish as high up the table as we'd like to be. That was the big problem when Chelsea under Jose and then Palace put the breaks on our title bid in 2014.

We do seem better under Klopp's system at the away grounds of the other challengers for top 4 than we do facing them at Anfield. Look at the results away to Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs since he took over a year ago.

Klopp has started to address our major issue of picking up wins home and away against those clubs you wouldn't think will be in the top 4. Which has been a bigger factor in to why we haven't finished top of the table since 1990, than how we do against the other so called 'glamour clubs'.
taurus_67
18-10-2016
I was a bit worried about this game beforehand; I knew what Jose was going to do and with the power they have at set-pieces against our wobbly defence, I did had visions of them nicking it.

As it turned out they were almost completely toothless and hardly bothered our defence at all, certainly didn't give them a hard time. I made it, Karius 0 saves - DeGea 2. Combine the good goalkeeping with Mourinho's six man back four and it felt like we were playing Burnley again. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the same tactics from other teams now as well, so we need to work out a plan to deal with it.

I felt a little sorry for Sturridge last night as we were awful in the first half and the ball was barely ever reaching him, and when it did he had his back to goal, was crowded out and ended up giving the ball away. It was really difficult fur him. Sturridge is slowly following in the footsteps of Benteke and Carroll: his style of play just doesn't suit our A-game at all. The January window could be interesting for him.
alancracker
18-10-2016
Originally Posted by Michael_Vaughan:
“Klopp has started to address our major issue of picking up wins home and away against those clubs you wouldn't think will be in the top 4. Which has been a bigger factor in to why we haven't finished top of the table since 1990, than how we do against the other so called 'glamour clubs'.”

That is a key point - we do have a tendency to drop more points V lower teams than most of the top teams and that to me is the prime reason why we have not won the title for so long.

WBA on Saturday for instance is the type of game we should win but it will not be easy with the way Pulis (who I do not like much) sets his teams up. Any kind of a win will be OK!! Those expecting us to hammer them I fear are going to be disappointed but I do fully expect us to be able to win the game.

Originally Posted by taurus_67:
“I felt a little sorry for Sturridge last night as we were awful in the first half and the ball was barely ever reaching him, and when it did he had his back to goal, was crowded out and ended up giving the ball away. It was really difficult fur him. Sturridge is slowly following in the footsteps of Benteke and Carroll: his style of play just doesn't suit our A-game at all. The January window could be interesting for him.”

Sturridge? - he is the only current player in or near the team that I wonder about whether he has a long term LFC future. I do like him and you certainly have to say that his goal scoring record for LFC is outstanding but this season even that has dried up a bit as he has yet to score in the PL I think. His personality is such that he will not like being on the bench (whereas people like Can and Origi seem to accept it) and so whether he will stay who knows. If he did go tho we could demand a big fee and then end up buying a player (striker!!) who Klopp really wanted - maybe wait till next summer if poss for that as by then we should be in the CL all being well and so we could have better bargaining power to attract the best players
TheMunch
21-10-2016
Patrice Evra congratulated Luis Suárez on his European Golden Shoe award.

Patrice Evra had this to say on Instagram.

"On my Instagram there's only love. Congratulations Luis, you're a great player. The best No.9."

He should still be the best No. 7.
TheMunch
21-10-2016
Taken from Facebook:

Klopp on Sturridge: "Daniel is hard working. He is fit, no issues physically - same as for every other player, what he has to do is work."

Klopp: "I have thought in moments: ‘Ball- Sturridge - Goal. Oh No!’ Moments you think he should score & doesn’t but you have to carry on."

Klopp on Sturridge: "We have to work on it together. He’s my player & that’s my job - didn’t score until now but has had really good games."

Klopp: "Every player struggles with this or this. Sturridge is an outstanding player. There is no doubt about this."

Klopp: "Daniel Sturridge is an outstanding player there is no doubt about that. We have to work on things together."


My personal favourite:

Klopp on Sturridge: "After a shooting exercise there's still tears in your eyes and you are like, 'F***ing hell! That is unbelievable!'"
Dandem
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Taken from Facebook:

Klopp on Sturridge: "Daniel is hard working. He is fit, no issues physically - same as for every other player, what he has to do is work."

Klopp: "I have thought in moments: ‘Ball- Sturridge - Goal. Oh No!’ Moments you think he should score & doesn’t but you have to carry on."

Klopp on Sturridge: "We have to work on it together. He’s my player & that’s my job - didn’t score until now but has had really good games."

Klopp: "Every player struggles with this or this. Sturridge is an outstanding player. There is no doubt about this."

Klopp: "Daniel Sturridge is an outstanding player there is no doubt about that. We have to work on things together."


My personal favourite:

Klopp on Sturridge: "After a shooting exercise there's still tears in your eyes and you are like, 'F***ing hell! That is unbelievable!'"”

Fantastic to hear Klopp publicly back Sturridge, especially after a lot of people from our own fanbase have turned on him (RAWK is a shit show for Sturridge bashing). He still remains an exceptionally talented striker, and I hope his first PL goal this season will get him going.

Given the good he's done (when fit) every season prior to this, I think Sturridge has earned our patience. His goals per minute ratio for us before this season started was outstanding.
Sick Bullet
22-10-2016
What a result with Spurs and with Man Utd playing Chelsea tomorrow the games just get more important.
1manonthebog
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“What a result with Spurs and with Man Utd playing Chelsea tomorrow the games just get more important.”

We could go top this evening if Arsenal get beat.
TheMunch
22-10-2016
Confirmed #LFC team to face @WBA: Karius, Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner, Henderson, Can, Lallana, Coutinho, Mane, Firmino #LIVWBA

Subs: Mignolet, Moreno, Klavan, Lucas, Wijnaldum, Origi, Sturridge
TheSloth
22-10-2016
Sturridge is trying to get back into form by trying to do the difficult things rather than keeping it simple (and passing on some occasions). He's also looking for the ball rather than creating space for others by making runs to drag defenders away - that's why the Lallana/Coutinho/Firmino combo suits Klopp's system better. A decent ace up our sleeve off the bench though.
Sick Bullet
22-10-2016
Arsenal nearly at it again, so jammy this season but it's been disallowed.
1manonthebog
22-10-2016
Arsenal draw, A win puts us top.
Sick Bullet
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by 1manonthebog:
“Arsenal draw, A win puts us top.”

We need to win 3-0 to go top.
Dandem
22-10-2016
A nice, early goal to settle the nerves will do nicely here.
1manonthebog
22-10-2016
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“We need to win 4-0 to go top.”

Ahh They didn't say that on the radio.
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