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Old 30-08-2015, 17:03
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Most of you on here have moaned whether we win or lose this season. Personally I can't see that changing until Rodgers is gone. It seems many have made their mind up and won't change. Irrespective of results. The evidence is there from the first 4 games.

If say Klopp had been in charge this season I doubt there would be as much dissent. I just wish people would own up to their agendas.
So utterly ridiculous and myopic, I don't know where to begin. I'm afraid you and Brenda "look at my shiny new teeth, dammit!" Bodgers are made for each other.
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Old 30-08-2015, 17:21
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Admittedly most blind teams would be better than us at the back yesterday but Utd haven't looked great defensively at Swansea so far. Just been ripped apart on the break for a Swans equaliser and the home side could've had another two in the first half.
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Old 30-08-2015, 17:25
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2-1 to the Swans, through the keepers legs and one of his hands

De Gea off tomorrow isn't he

A few of their players in yellows so here's hoping they become reds and bans against us.We need some help
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Old 30-08-2015, 17:30
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Ayew seemed to be linked with us constantly few years ago. Swansea got him on a free
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Old 30-08-2015, 17:48
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A little more bearable apart from City all doing poor
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Old 30-08-2015, 17:48
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Old 30-08-2015, 17:51
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Old 30-08-2015, 18:19
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Given both defences, I predict 3-3 at Old Trafford. 3 penalties or deflections apiece given both our striking options.
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Old 30-08-2015, 18:37
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Most of you on here have moaned whether we win or lose this season. Personally I can't see that changing until Rodgers is gone. It seems many have made their mind up and won't change. Irrespective of results. The evidence is there from the first 4 games.

If say Klopp had been in charge this season I doubt there would be as much dissent. I just wish people would own up to their agendas.
By the way I'm not saying yesterday was great either. It was awful. Personally I don't see why we would play a DM at home. We only need a DM at tough away grounds. Mind you lots of people wanted Lucas to play so it was hadly a surprise move.

We could go and win at Old Trafford. We probably will. Even after that I doubt people will come round to Rodgers though. Real shame that some of the fanbase don't support the manager despite their thoughts about him.
Agenda's? I, although granted I can't speak for any others, have no agenda. I expect to see more than I have over the past season and 4 games though. More than half, as much as 3/4 of last season was dire, if we can win without being great like Stoke & Bournemouth I'll take that without moaning without a doubt, but far too many performances are lacking in so many things, the basics like effort & desire should be a minimum requirement, that often hasn't been the case.

I could list all the way below par performances in that time, it'll be a long list mind. To then spend 80m and still have 1 shot on target v a rookie keeper in an average team is ridiculous!
Lucas deserved his place as he was excellent v Arsenal, the whole team played well for that game. So the question has to be asked why that level was not reached v WHU? It wasn't for sure and it's the managers job to ensure these below par levels are not the norm.
If attacks on individual players are acceptable (which seems to be allowed if it's one of the easy targets) Rodgers is not above that.
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Old 30-08-2015, 18:52
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Where Rodgers deserves criticism is his playing Gomez left back to try and protect Lovren. I said after the Bournemouth game that I like Gomez but long term having a right footed player at LB isn't a solution. The solution is to play Sakho.

We need to play from the back and try and coax teams out when they come and sit deep. I should also say Skrtel shouldn't be guaranteed to play either. If the idea is for a front foot defensive unit then Skrtel will always be a problem as he can't help retreating. At arsenal in the second half he looked in his element as we were forced back and his fine defending on his own 18 yard line. However if you want a unit that first and foremost wants to play high then Skrtel will be prone to errors.

The stats still say Sakho committed no errors last year that led to a goal.

If Lovren starts at OT it would be criminal. I read he deleted his instagram due to the amount of abuse he took on there last night. So called fans hey.

I find it quite funny how people are moaning about how quick we are going back to front to Benteke. Pretty certain many were complaining when we try and play through a press rather than just clearing the ball. We should the majority of time be looking to play through a press.

Now as for the other end I think when Sturridge is fit the system will likely be 4-4-2 diamond but I don't think we can wait that long.

We need some more pace in the side and Sturridge will give us that. At OT we should be playing counter all the way so Moreno should play.
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Old 30-08-2015, 19:06
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Ayew seemed to be linked with us constantly few years ago. Swansea got him on a free
I called on Liverpool to go and get ayew soon as it was clear he would leave Marseille. Don't remember many fans saying same thing though. I watched ayew lots at OM and on a free it will be best deal of the summer.

I am shocked how quick he has adapted to English football though. No problem at all, great signing for Swansea.

On to Liverpool, not seen anything from the game as in Barcelona and didn't actually want to see the highlight's.

From what I have read though, seems like a really poor performance. Predicted Rodgers would regret picking lovren as it was only a matter if time. He is a walking time bomb and needs to be out of the team. If sakho does not play at OT then Rodgers has some sort of agenda.

Can Lucas play two games in a row at a high level?

Also the abuse and death threats sent to lovren is pathetic. It's all good not wanting him in the team but should be it. Some fans need help!
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Old 30-08-2015, 19:24
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Where Rodgers deserves criticism is his playing Gomez left back to try and protect Lovren. I said after the Bournemouth game that I like Gomez but long term having a right footed player at LB isn't a solution. The solution is to play Sakho.

If Lovren starts at OT it would be criminal. I read he deleted his instagram due to the amount of abuse he took on there last night. So called fans hey.
I don't follow? I assume you want Sakho at CB not left back so bringing Sakho in wont alter the fact Gomez is a right footer playing left back. He wont replace Clyne so are you advocating leaving Gomez out despite Moreno having been dodgy?
Criminal is OTT. Gomez miskicked with his preferred right foot for the 1st, Lovren was at fault for the 2nd and a combination of Moreno & Skrtel mucked up for third. lovren should not be made accountable for ALL that was wrong.
I called on Liverpool to go and get ayew soon as it was clear he would leave Marseille. Don't remember many fans saying same thing though. I watched ayew lots at OM and on a free it will be best deal of the summer.

From what I have read though, seems like a really poor performance. Predicted Rodgers would regret picking lovren as it was only a matter if time. He is a walking time bomb and needs to be out of the team. If sakho does not play at OT then Rodgers has some sort of agenda.

Can Lucas play two games in a row at a high level?

Also the abuse and death threats sent to lovren is pathetic. It's all good not wanting him in the team but should be it. Some fans need help!
Wow, that's a bit of self praise. Not everyone follows other leagues to the extent we'd know F all about Ayew.

Another lumping all the blame on Lovren - sorry but the abuse he is receiving is way OTT - it;s not like he deliberately goes out to F up, blame Rodgers - he picks him!

Of course Lucas can - he's 28 not 38.

Once again seems any loss has people jumping for the easy targets, seems it's always Lovrens fault or Lucas's or Migs.

Can Milner play 2 high profile games in a row then?
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Old 30-08-2015, 20:03
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I don't follow? I assume you want Sakho at CB not left back so bringing Sakho in wont alter the fact Gomez is a right footer playing left back. He wont replace Clyne so are you advocating leaving Gomez out despite Moreno having been dodgy?
Criminal is OTT. Gomez miskicked with his preferred right foot for the 1st, Lovren was at fault for the 2nd and a combination of Moreno & Skrtel mucked up for third. lovren should not be made accountable for ALL that was wrong.
I want sakho in a centre back regardless of who plays left back. My concern is Gomez is playing more to do with the fact that lovren needs babysitting. We need a genuine left back, if it's not Moreno we'll have to find someone.

I blame skrtel for the first. Poor header.

Lovren made a far bigger mistake. True comedy gold but it's not out of character . His just a very average player.

I can't fathom how BR could think lovren is a better defender than Sakho. Last season was evidence enough that lovren will never make it at Liverpool.
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Old 30-08-2015, 20:54
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In relation to left backs, when is Flanagan expected back from injury?
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Old 30-08-2015, 21:02
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In relation to left backs, when is Flanagan expected back from injury?
He's another who is actually a right back who has done a decent job at left back.

Last I heard was that it would be December before we would see him on the pitch again.
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Old 30-08-2015, 22:19
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So utterly ridiculous and myopic, I don't know where to begin. I'm afraid you and Brenda "look at my shiny new teeth, dammit!" Bodgers are made for each other.
You've kind of just proved my point by disrespecting the manager and calling him Brenda Bodgers. Disgraceful behaviour from a so called Liverpool fan.
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Old 30-08-2015, 22:23
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Agenda's? I, although granted I can't speak for any others, have no agenda. I expect to see more than I have over the past season and 4 games though. More than half, as much as 3/4 of last season was dire, if we can win without being great like Stoke & Bournemouth I'll take that without moaning without a doubt, but far too many performances are lacking in so many things, the basics like effort & desire should be a minimum requirement, that often hasn't been the case.

I could list all the way below par performances in that time, it'll be a long list mind. To then spend 80m and still have 1 shot on target v a rookie keeper in an average team is ridiculous!
Lucas deserved his place as he was excellent v Arsenal, the whole team played well for that game. So the question has to be asked why that level was not reached v WHU? It wasn't for sure and it's the managers job to ensure these below par levels are not the norm.
If attacks on individual players are acceptable (which seems to be allowed if it's one of the easy targets) Rodgers is not above that.
I believe you have an agenda against Rodgers. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there is no love lost with you and you'd be quite happy if he went. You aren't the only one but I believe it does muddy opinion. There has been moaning after getting 3 good results. Just scroll back and look. So some aren't happy getting results at all.

As for Lucas. It's not him I have an issue with. I just don't see why we need to use a DM at Anfield. We should have used an extra forward instead. It's not like Can and Lucas did their jobs anyway.
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Old 30-08-2015, 22:36
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I believe you have an agenda against Rodgers. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there is no love lost with you and you'd be quite happy if he went. You aren't the only one but I believe it does muddy opinion. There has been moaning after getting 3 good results. Just scroll back and look. So some aren't happy getting results at all.

As for Lucas. It's not him I have an issue with. I just don't see why we need to use a DM at Anfield. We should have used an extra forward instead. It's not like Can and Lucas did their jobs anyway.
I invite you to show me any evidence that brings you to that conclusion please?

I have not moaned about 3 good results, so because some others have that means "I" have an agenda, hmm interesting. If criticism is fair I'll give it, if not I won't.

Are you claiming the other 9 did??
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Old 30-08-2015, 23:28
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I invite you to show me any evidence that brings you to that conclusion please?

I have not moaned about 3 good results, so because some others have that means "I" have an agenda, hmm interesting. If criticism is fair I'll give it, if not I won't.

Are you claiming the other 9 did??
Instead of me finding evidence. Maybe you could say whether you want Rodgers as LFC manager or not?
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Old 30-08-2015, 23:40
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Instead of me finding evidence. Maybe you could say whether you want Rodgers as LFC manager or not?
Just to correct the above - you mean instead of you trawling through posts attempting to find some form of evidence.

I will admit to no more than having a moan at certain below par performances etc.

For the time being I do still want BR as manager yes. Come the end of the season if it turns out like last season did with plenty of below par performances, no cups and no genuine challenge for top 4 I reserve the right to change that though.

I can assure you I'd love nothing more than a challenge like we had in Luis's last season so I am not wanting Brendan to fail. But if his teams dish up more muck like the West Ham game I can show my frustrations at that, and if the season is another damp squid I will say enough is enough.
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Old 31-08-2015, 11:54
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Sunderlands bid for Borini accepted

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33795406
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Old 31-08-2015, 12:53
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Good, one problem less to worry about, £10m isn't bad either, but, the lad can play, and did well with Sunderland when on loan there.
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Old 31-08-2015, 12:55
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Are you sure this is not ground hog day?
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Old 31-08-2015, 13:24
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Are you sure this is not ground hog day?
Yes, next we'll be reading United are in for Neymar, Ronaldo or Bale...
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Old 31-08-2015, 13:28
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Yes, next we'll be reading United are in for Neynar, Ronaldo or Bale...
Oh wait....
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