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Liverpool Supporters Thread (Part 21)
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ChristmasCake
18-09-2015
I think a 3-4-1-2 formation could be useful, with the wing-backs providing the width.

I'd line up like this:

Mignolet

Clyne Lovren Sakho Toure Moreno

Lucas Can

Firmino

Ings Origi

This is based on players currently available..unless I've missed any fitness news..
Dandem
18-09-2015
‪#‎LFC‬ are delighted to confirm Mamadou Sakho has put pen to paper on a new long-term contract with the club. For more details on the Frenchman committing his future to the Reds, head here: http://bit.ly/1iCh0u7

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Good stuff!
ChristmasCake
18-09-2015
That's certainly good news.
Orchideam
18-09-2015
Now let's treat him with the same respect he gives to us. So pleased with this news!
Sick Bullet
18-09-2015
There is going to be a Rodgers Out banner fly over Anfield this Sunday.
Dandem
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“There is going to be a Rodgers Out banner fly over Anfield this Sunday.”

Christ, I hope not.
ChristmasCake
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“There is going to be a Rodgers Out banner fly over Anfield this Sunday.”

How pathetic.
Sick Bullet
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“Christ, I hope not.”

As much I want him out it's in pretty poor taste, it was on twitter about an hour ago but apparently the pilot who did the last one got death threats and won't do it again, so now they're trying to fund a drone.
Jim De Ville
18-09-2015
And you guys mocked us for exactly this.

Just goes to show that every club has it's fair share of morons, purporting to be 'fans'.

Rodgers does himself no favours, but I think that he gets a hard time. Liverpool are around the 5th/6th best team in the country. Without huge investment, that's where they'll stay, in my opinion.
ChristmasCake
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“And you guys mocked us for exactly this.

Just goes to show that every club has it's fair share of morons, purporting to be 'fans'.

Rodgers does himself no favours, but I think that he gets a hard time. Liverpool are around the 5th/6th best team in the country. Without huge investment, that's where they'll stay, in my opinion.”

Agreed.
LONERIDER37
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Rodgers does himself no favours, but I think that he gets a hard time. Liverpool are around the 5th/6th best team in the country. Without huge investment, that's where they'll stay, in my opinion.”

But it's not just about that, it's about performances. you say we are the 5th or 6th best side yet we got trounced at home to West Ham. Are they the 4th best then?

Yes I know it doesn't work like that but my point is Liverpool have played pretty dire football for half of last season and to be fair most of this season so far.

That is not acceptable, the poor poor performances, lack of any imagination, sometimes even desire, boring ineffectual football. That's all what needs to improve.

More investment has come to Liverpool than a lot of clubs but it hasn't stopped their managers getting the best out of their teams and playing some good attacking exciting football.

I'd much rather lose 3-2 going for it than 1 nil not going for it. Did Liverpool go for it v yourselves - not a chance, tactics unacceptable, simply has to improve.

With Norwich & Villa the next games a chance to win nicely perhaps for a change?
Jim De Ville
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by LONERIDER37:
“But it's not just about that, it's about performances. you say we are the 5th or 6th best side yet we got trounced at home to West Ham. Are they the 4th best then?

Yes I know it doesn't work like that but my point is Liverpool have played pretty dire football for half of last season and to be fair most of this season so far.

That is not acceptable, the poor poor performances, lack of any imagination, sometimes even desire, boring ineffectual football. That's all what needs to improve.

More investment has come to Liverpool than a lot of clubs but it hasn't stopped their managers getting the best out of their teams and playing some good attacking exciting football.

I'd much rather lose 3-2 going for it than 1 nil not going for it. Did Liverpool go for it v yourselves - not a chance, tactics unacceptable, simply has to improve.

With Norwich & Villa the next games a chance to win nicely perhaps for a change?”

I understand, and that's why I said that Rodgers does himself no favours.

He doesn't seem to have faith in his own beliefs. Two years ago, you were brilliant. I don't buy into the whole 'it was all down to Suarez' guff. Yes, he was fantastic, but so was the system, the pressing, the 'philosophy'. That was all down to Rodgers. Unfortunately for you, he seems to have completely bottled it, in terms of playing to your strengths.

Sitting back and defending? It generally works for Chelsea, and us, but that's because we have the players to do it. You don't.

I'm convinced that Benteke could be an absolute monster, in the Drogba mould*, but Rodgers seems to doubt his own ability, regardless of what he says to the press.

It's understandable, because he' a young-ish guy managing one of the world's biggest clubs, but he needs to snap out of it.

Someone needs to have a serious word with Rodgers, or he'll lose his job. And it would all be his own doing, which I think would be a massive shame.

*Cliché alert.
NorthernNinny
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by LONERIDER37:
“But it's not just about that, it's about performances. you say we are the 5th or 6th best side yet we got trounced at home to West Ham. Are they the 4th best then?

Yes I know it doesn't work like that but my point is Liverpool have played pretty dire football for half of last season and to be fair most of this season so far.

That is not acceptable, the poor poor performances, lack of any imagination, sometimes even desire, boring ineffectual football. That's all what needs to improve.

More investment has come to Liverpool than a lot of clubs but it hasn't stopped their managers getting the best out of their teams and playing some good attacking exciting football.

I'd much rather lose 3-2 going for it than 1 nil not going for it. Did Liverpool go for it v yourselves - not a chance, tactics unacceptable, simply has to improve.

With Norwich & Villa the next games a chance to win nicely perhaps for a change?”

Tbf West Ham also beat Arsenal at the Emirates. It probably won't be the only big scalp they get this season.

Try MK Dons if you want embarrassing.
Michael_Vaughan
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“‪#‎LFC‬ are delighted to confirm Mamadou Sakho has put pen to paper on a new long-term contract with the club. For more details on the Frenchman committing his future to the Reds, head here: http://bit.ly/1iCh0u7

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Good stuff!”

That's great news, now put him in the team every damn game Brendan.
Eddie hunter
19-09-2015
Henderson out for 8 weeks with a broken foot
misawa97
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“Henderson out for 8 weeks with a broken foot”

Huge loss to the side.
Dandem
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“Henderson out for 8 weeks with a broken foot”

I feel like we've already been quite unfortunate with injuries this season. Losing Henderson is a blow.

Anyone know when Allen is supposed to be back?
Orchideam
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“I feel like we've already been quite unfortunate with injuries this season. Losing Henderson is a blow.

Anyone know when Allen is supposed to be back?”

Horrible for him and for us, however, it is what it is and so changes will have to be made. I am not so sure on us now having Milner as captain, he doesn't seem to have what it takes to lead us out and be the captain. It's not just a case of organising and pushing players on pitch, it starts even before the dressing room and has to be right.

I really think Sakho is better at that, and, the squad think very highly of him too, but I doubt BR would think of that, and Milner would be pee'd off too.

I'd hate for this to be an excuse for BR as to why we play badly for the next 2 months or so, but it probably will, we always play better with Hendo, even when he covered for SG he was actually better than him.
misawa97
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“I feel like we've already been quite unfortunate with injuries this season. Losing Henderson is a blow.

Anyone know when Allen is supposed to be back?”

Allen is fit now isn't he? Good time to be back.
taurus_67
19-09-2015
That's a blow for us, we'll miss Hendo just as much as we miss Sturridge. Hopefully the surgery is completely successful and he returns fresh and eager, and it will give his injured left foot a complete rest for a while too.

I guess it's just as well Lucas didn't get on that plane to Turkey.
Michael_Vaughan
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
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I really think Sakho is better at that, and, the squad think very highly of him too, but I doubt BR would think of that, and Milner would be pee'd off too.

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He's the obvious choice for me, captained PSG at the age of 18.Not sure why Brendan doesn't see him as such.The one decent run of form we showed last season included his return from injury as a regular starter.
Michael_Vaughan
19-09-2015
BBC match preview page says Sturridge may be involved tomorrow.
Dandem
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Michael_Vaughan:
“BBC match preview page says Sturridge may be involved tomorrow.”

I'd only expect a 10 minute run out if we're comfortably in front at the absolute most.
Orchideam
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“I'd only expect a 10 minute run out if we're comfortably in front at the absolute most.”

A nice re-introduction to the Anfield crowd where he comes on and blasts in 4 goals, just because he can like!

We are not being televised tomorrow btw, so looking for 'dodgy' links.
alancracker
19-09-2015
I have been away altho I did see the MUFC game on TV - depressing!! and that's all I will say!! - but not the Bordeaux game. I have had a long journey today so am a bit shattered but had read some of the recent posts - the discussion between Lone and Jim is interesting with Lone more or less saying my thoughts.

It is not the losing. it is the way we are losing and really the negative unadventurous way we are approaching most games, lets face it we have barely had a really good performance for the past 2 seasons since Suarez left. It is tempting to say it was all down to Luis that we did so well then and yes of course he was clearly the most important factor, but Jim is right too as that season we had a far more attacking mentality and many of the current team played far better than they are doing now. Remember us winning 6-0 away at NUFC at the end of the previous season without :Luis after the Ivanovic suspension, you don't do that if you are bad players. Now I am sad to say it is almost always boring to watch us, we lack spirit and are simply not playing to our max whereas clubs like Palace, Leicester, Swansea and West Ham show far more spirit and are far more entertaining to watch. They are playing to their max. We may well finish above all 4 of them but considering the money we can spend compared to them we should do shouldn't we.

My position was and still is to keep BR till Christmas and see how it goes in the next 3 or 4 months but I am getting less and less optimistic that he will be able to change it round - but I hope he does as I do like the guy. I believe that we do have good enough players, we just have to set the team up to play to their max which we are simply not doing now. If the results and more importantly the performances are not better by the end of the year then we would be unwise to let it continue any longer I believe
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