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It will not benefit Liverpool by selling him, we would quite a bit of money for Sterling by doing so but think of the wages we are paying him at the moment.
An established player coming in to the club will want more wages and may cost the club nearly all the money they sold Sterling to buy him and then it's a gamble. Any new player is. He may turn out to be a flop. Just because a player is playing well for another club it doesn't mean he will for Liverpool. I think for the time being Liverpool should ignore Sterlings request to leave. |
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#152 |
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If £40m gets offered I, personally, would just take that and get on with life. Unless he signs another contract it's this summer when his selling value will be at it's highest. It appears he doesn't want to sign another deal. That could change, but if it does it'll be for some seriously high wages and dear knows what other demands and clauses.
If he remains adamant and doesn't want to extend, then do we really want to keep a depreciating asset with a player who might not be committed and motivated to give 100% ? Not for me. Keeping him under the wrong circumstances is just as, probably more, risky than cashing in and trying to find a decent replacement. If it comes to money and I have to pay someone £150k a week, then I want to give it to someone who wants to be here and give it their best shot. |
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#153 |
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Sterling clearly wants to leave, he's no Suarez and we're not that desperate to keep him. I don't want players who are unhappy at the club, better to sell him now while the chance is there, if we hang on City will start looking elsewhere and we may not get so much for him if we decide to sell him later.
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#154 |
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I wouldn't worry about man city moving on to other targets. Sterling has made it clear he won't sign new deal, everybody in Europe knows he wants to leave. If man city are the only club interested then so be it. If they move on then we have a fine player for another year minimum.
Firstly I don't believe he will down tools. It is no benefit for him to do that. He screams he wants to play for a team winning trophies. Well he is not gonna get any move if he doesn't play well for Liverpool. Secondly. If no other club makes a bid for raheem, maybe he will get a reality check and see that he is far from the player he thinks he is and still has lots to improve on. |
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Just curious.
If Sterling doesn't sign a new £100,000 a week contract but Liverpool insist he stays, does that mean he will be playing every game next season on his old contract of I believe £35,000 a week? |
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#156 |
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Just curious.
If Sterling doesn't sign a new £100,000 a week contract but Liverpool insist he stays, does that mean he will be playing every game next season on his old contract of I believe £35,000 a week? I actually think the club will sell when the asking price is met but not beforehand. If that's £50 mil then it's that or nothing. |
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Just curious.
If Sterling doesn't sign a new £100,000 a week contract but Liverpool insist he stays, does that mean he will be playing every game next season on his old contract of I believe £35,000 a week? |
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#158 |
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Agree, keep him, and tell him he can leave next summer if he proves himself to be a dammed good player in the interim, if not he can see out his time with us. Pure gamble I know, but a better one than letting him go and paying the earth for a 'possibly goodish' replacement costing roughly £5m a year more in wages alone - let alone a hefty transfer fee. No, time to be firm and give him the ultimatum - work hard and go, or flop and fail, his choice.
He signed a contract and he should honour it...
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The club has treated Sterling appallingly. Then he's treated the club appallingly. Nobody comes out of this well.
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The club has treated Sterling appallingly. Then he's treated the club appallingly. Nobody comes out of this well.
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His been treated fine by the club. He was given a mid season break ffs which in unheard of. He was offered a new contract and he turned it down which is his prerogative. I have no issue with that. However if a player wants to leave a football club there is a professional way to go about it rather than what sterling and his agent have done.
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His been treated fine by the club. He was given a mid season break ffs which in unheard of. He was offered a new contract and he turned it down which is his prerogative. I have no issue with that. However if a player wants to leave a football club there is a professional way to go about it rather than what sterling and his agent have done.
Was watching the PL years earlier and Sterling ran straight to BR when he scored. There clearly used to be a relationship. Would have to question who ruined it. |
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No he hasn't. He's 20 and had all the pressure of the entire football club on his shoulders to score goals because of successive poor transfer windows. They waited and waited to offer a contract. Not for the first time either or the first player. He was told constantly he was the best young player in Europe. He shouldn't be playing every week at his age and to be honest I question if Liverpool is the right place for his development.
As his been argued before on here the best young players in Europe are earning less than what sterling was offered but that's neither here or there as I said he had a reasons for wanting to leave and that's fine. That's football. |
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Sterling? - he has to be sold for as much as we can get as soon as we can get it done. I think it will be around 40m but we should try to get nearer 50m but if we get less than 40m then so be it - just sell him!
His continued presence at the club is not welcome in my eyes - it would be an unwanted distraction when we need to be concentrating on what happens on the field and the many players who do want to play for us. Keeping him against his will for 2 years? - really!! I almost always think unhappy players should be sold and I certainly do in this case - the exceptions would be if the player was truly outstanding or if we did not have ready made replacements. In RSs case neither of these things is the case - in fact if we sold him I would not be thinking of using the money on a wide player but rather would regard his sale as a great way of boosting our funds to bring in players in greater areas of priority - striker particularly - and as many know I also want Lovren out and a better CB brought in - but that is just me, others may disagree. I think if you were pro Sterling and wanting to have a go at LFC you could - played too often, not always in his favoured position, talking contract figures in public ...etc but I think that is harsh on the club and find it hard to do so as I think it has not acted badly out of any kind of malice. They would say that the praise BR lavished on him was to boost his confidence - important to do in young people with a talent, they made the figures public to show how much they rated him and they had to play him so much as others were not at the level required and felt the team would do better with him playing rather than the others. Yes they know he has played lots of roles in the team but part of BRs thinking is that if you are a good player you should be adaptable and be able to play in several positions. Nowhere he has been asked to play has been totally out of his skill range like CB or CM - he has played mainly wide or up front and sometimes wide with a wing back brief too. They also tired to address the needing rest issue by paying for him to have a mid season break - hardly an unkind gesture but now it seems RS has little love for BR or LFC. The word ungrateful comes to mind. A team player would want to help the team out and play wherever he was asked to without complaint and be glad at getting time on the pitch rather than the bench at such a tender age. I think if he does leave he will live to regret it, I honestly do not think he is anything like as good as he thinks he is (so in that sense BR prob did him no favours by his best young player in Europe quotes) but he is talented that is for sure and of course as he is only 20 in 3 or 4 years time he may be outstanding - but for sure by then I think he will not be playing for LFC. I can live with that. Of course he may also be like Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair and others who have moved to big teams and seen their career nose dive as they could not get in the team - at present imo he would not get in the MCFC team and that is it seems his most likely destination. Same goes for Arsenal. |
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It looks like, pending a medical, Sevilla are going to transfer Aspas back to Celta Vigo next month. I believe Sevilla will owe us about £5m from our deal last summer. That will just about pay the tribunal for Ings.
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I agree broadly speaking with what Alancracker says. I think if you are a big club the best way to illustrate it is to tell players like Sterling that they can **** off. Obviously not to the detriment of a transfer fee but i hate seeing big clubs almost grovel to players who actually aren't that great anyway.
If De Gea want to leave Man Utd - sell him and deal with it. If Sterling wants to leave Liverpool - sell him and deal with it Obviously don't tell the world this in case it affects the price but clubs of this stature should be above overly pandering to players. They are going to go in the end anyway. I would punt Sterling in a heartbeat and I'd be willing to bet anyone here £5 that he will regret leaving Liverpool by the end of his next contract. |
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Given our signings so far, although I broadly agree with Sterling being sold, I think at this time it sends the wrong message.
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Is anyone sure we will get anything like £40-50k for Sterling? He is still a potential player. I am not saying he is not a good player. But not a Gerrard or Suarez at the moment or will ever be. If I was looking to buy him I would not pay that much for Sterling.
I stand by analysis which is that he should not be sold hastily. |
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Is anyone sure we will get anything like £40-50k for Sterling? He is still a potential player. I am not saying he is not a good player. But not a Gerrard or Suarez at the moment or will ever be. If I was looking to buy him I would not pay that much for Sterling.
I stand by analysis which is that he should not be sold hastily. If we don't budge at £40m and hold out for closer to £50m, I have a feeling we're going to get burned because nobody will pay that much for him. It's already taking the p*ss trying to squeeze somebody for £40m. And he's hardly being sold in haste - the lad doesn't want to be here, he's had a contract offered to him but turned it down. Why on earth would you keep hold of him in the knowledge that he wants to leave? Doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that the best time to sell is now if the club want to get the best deal. If he showed up in games where it mattered, I'd have huge issue with his potential sale but considering he and/or his agent think he's a lot better than he actually is, I have no issue with cashing in on him now. The grass isn't always greener and he may (or may not!) learn that the hard way. |
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Is anyone sure we will get anything like £40-50k for Sterling? He is still a potential player. I am not saying he is not a good player. But not a Gerrard or Suarez at the moment or will ever be. If I was looking to buy him I would not pay that much for Sterling.
I stand by analysis which is that he should not be sold hastily. To try and get £50m for him is really pushing it and putting him towards the Suarez/Torres level, portraying him as vital to the team/club. As good as he is, he doesn't deserve to be classed in that sort of category just yet. I'll be astonished if he actually goes on to become a £60m player, but you never know. Although still speculative, I'd be happier for him to go to City as opposed to potentially further strengthening Arsenal. I'm not quite convinced it'd be the best move for him though, as City don't exactly have a stellar record at developing young players and giving them a chance in the first team. |
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£40-50 million for Sterling 😱 the game has gone nuts! I think he is a good player but that is just stupid, city have got more money then sense. There is no way I would pay that for him.
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Reads like a press release from man city. No quotes from the player at all. Still if he really wants to speed things up he could hand in a transfer request. |
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Given our signings so far, although I broadly agree with Sterling being sold, I think at this time it sends the wrong message.
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I agree broadly speaking with what Alancracker says. I think if you are a big club the best way to illustrate it is to tell players like Sterling that they can **** off. Obviously not to the detriment of a transfer fee but i hate seeing big clubs almost grovel to players who actually aren't that great anyway.
If De Gea want to leave Man Utd - sell him and deal with it. If Sterling wants to leave Liverpool - sell him and deal with it Obviously don't tell the world this in case it affects the price but clubs of this stature should be above overly pandering to players. They are going to go in the end anyway. I would punt Sterling in a heartbeat and I'd be willing to bet anyone here £5 that he will regret leaving Liverpool by the end of his next contract. |
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