http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/09...medium=twitter

"Joining Honigstein on the Football Weekly podcast was Irish football journalist Barry Glendenning, who suggested that Rodgers’ position may be under immediate threat after Saturday’s 3-1 loss to Manchester United.

“I heard from somebody who would be pretty connected with people behind the scenes at Liverpool that Rodgers was told before the Manchester United game that if he didn’t get seven points from the next nine available he would lose his job,” he claimed.

“So that’s already an impossibility.”

Glendenning later added: “I suspect some Liverpool players might want to see the back of Brendan Rodgers, and they might not put in the performance for him.”

Its hard to be rational right now as we all want success so much and we were hoping this season would go well and now just 6 games in it is looking unlikely that it will be. Therefore the easy knee jerk reaction is to say sack BR now. However in the cold light of day I think Carra talks sense - sacking him now after just 6 games would make no sense altho I do not think we should give him all season if it continues like this. Personally I will be surprised if he does turn it round but I hope he does. The only worry with sticking with him is that maybe by the time we do get rid we may not have as many options to bring in to replace him - if Klopp goes elsewhere then we sack BR and we then appoint someone of lesser calibre than Klopp it will frustrate me greatly.

It does seem too that today the performance was a bit better (hard to be worse than the MUFC one) with lots of shots and second half we dominated possession. Also some came in who did well - |Sakho, Moreno and Ings in particular. Hopefully if we get a good win soon, confidence will grow and things will improve - what I will say is that you have to pick a team on form and so BR should be prepared to leave out underperformers like Milner I am sad to say and keep those who do well like Ings in. I did like the team selected today so lets hope he plays the right line up in the PL games coming up - not far off todays line up. I think if they play together a few times they are likely to gel. I cannot see any uninjured people not in the starting team today who have a major claim to be put in - apart from Ings

This has been pretty clear from last season, Looking at the last twenty games it seems to be relegation form or very close we could be heading for a 40 point finish if things aren't turned around ASAP.

Yes it is early in the season to be thinking of changing managers but with how our form dipped at the end of last season it was time to let him go for me, How anyone could give him another £100m to spend is beyond me.

Obviously he is FSGs guy and they have more patience than they had for KK, But the ruthlessness they showed in letting KK go should have returned, The time is close now as revenues will be dropping and that is a language even our novice owners will understand.

Its the wasted money that will do for him in the end I think. Even if things were to improve on the pitch the owners will certainly be looking at the backwards steps taken and the money spent since just missing out on the title. Of course along the way there has been injuries and player sales but nothing that could be offered up as an excuse really when you look at the money that he has been allowed to be spent on players who have not performed or in some cases not been given a chance to perform. Its one thing to sign players and they not quite work, its another to sign them and apparently not know what to do with them, how to play them or indeed whether to play them at all.

Losing Suarez was the one obvious massive hit in the last two seasons but really the importance of that shouldn't be overplayed. A good manager with a large cheque book should be able to minimise the impact of losing such a player in the space of a season and a bit.

I also think that James Milner is the very exemplification of the "meh" factor that a club like Liverpool should be looking to be better than. Not that he is a bad player, but he will only ever be "fine" and "do a job". Perhaps as a signing he was a good one in the circumstances but to place him in the centre of the park as an almost undropable fixture is extremely underwhelming.

Shelvey would have been a better option than Milner. So why get rid?

One of the many signs that Rodgers is clueless

If I had someone doing this amount of activity to my purse strings, and still getting poor results, I'd do something to sort it out!

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There are a hell of a lot of 'why's' in there too.

Shelvey wanted to play football. He wasnt getting into our side so needed to move on. Should of he waited 2 years on the bench?

In recent years, Liverpool have had three chances to spend wisely, on each occasion they have failed, first of all selling Torres for a huge fee, then it was Suarez, and just recently it was Sterling.
Each time it was a chance to really get someone good to the club, a game changer if you will, but instead, each time they didn't manage to do that, and this is the result of that process.

Not many clubs receive those sort of fees for any player, nevermind three of them, so they were chances missed to really push on upwards.

Milner was a player who thanks to those around him at City looked better than he actually was or is.
It is a long road back from here, but with much careful use of transfer funds, they can get a lot closer to the top four than they currently are.

In fairness to Rodgers if he drops Milner, at the moment, who does he put in the middle?

Lallana and Rossiter would be the options.

Lallana is better further forward, and Rossiter is 17.

If Allen and Henderson are fit, then yeah, perhaps Milner wouldn't be as undroppable.

I didn't see the game, but for me, I still think it's the system, and the over-reliance on players Rodgers approves of.

Dare I say it, but from a purely footballing perspective things are as bad now as they were in those dark days at the end of of the H&G / Hodgeson combo! We may not be crippled by debt and we may have the much needed investment in the stadium (even if it's only a half-hearted expansion right now) but the way things are going the shiny new stand is going to be empty half the time if this drivel continues. The problem as I see it is that FSG won't act as long as their investment isn't being threatened. Unless there's a performance related clause written into his contract I suspect FSG would rather let Rodgers run it out as long as the team performance isn't effecting the club finances.

This is all very hard to take.

Ridiculous fees payed.

The performance long-term will have an effect on club finances surely?

I don't think more years outside of the champions league would do the club any good.

Rodgers five year plan doesn't seem any closer to fruition than it did when he joined the club, so you'd expect that the club will be expecting results at some level.

Rodgers has only won 4 of Liverpool's last 15 PL games dating back to 22nd March 2015.

Any other manager of any other club would've been sacked long ago. Why is he so untouchable?

Why is LFC run from top to bottom by clowns?

Perhaps relegation will get JW Henry's backside out of Boston and over to Anfield a bit more often to sort out this mess before the fans desert the club.

Of course it will! We are unlikely to attract any future sponsors, and those we do have will drop out once close of contracts come round. Then there are store sales/shirts etc. I doubt many fans will be spending a lot of money on such things right now, and from what I am seeing in other forums, many won't bother going to matches until drastic changes are made.

We are just going backwards, and could end up for years as just another also ran.

One other point too, with all this going on now, who on earth would want to sign up to us? I am really bewildered as to why Sakho did (love the guy and glad he did mind), have they promised him the earth too?

It's kind of sad, because, initially, I was against Rodgers, but I warmed to the guy, and he really created some optimism. I loved the way the team were playing, but all of a sudden he's just abandoned his principles, and instead we're seeing the sort of performance that has us losing 3-0 to West Ham at home..

Sorry I never meant it like that. I was just referencing to the people we have signed in regards to the players we had not that long ago. It was more a comparison.

That all depends on what FSG are basing their financial models on, though. If they're being realistic in their financial planning they won't be assuming any CL involvement simply because there are 4 clubs more likely to qualify each season as things stand. So they are likely to be quite conservative when predicting the financial income from on-field performance. There's not a huge difference in income from finishing 5th or 8th in the PL. The domestic cups don't generate huge incomes and the EL is nice but not critical. In terms of sponsorship or kit deals, we'll continue to be a big hitter simply because of the world-wide brand which is separate from the team performance. The one area that poor performance can impact is match-day revenues but I suspect FSG think the club is relatively immune for the same reasons we still get huge sponsorship deals despite are relative lack of success over the last quarter century.

Looking at that list, I can't help but think that the only people smiling are the selling clubs because some of the fees we've paid are absurd. We've got complete duds in the vast majority of cases but the fees have been astronomical.

At least people are now coming to the realisation we have got a clueless manager. I'd love to wake up tomorrow and read how FSG have had enough and are selling to somebody in the Middle East. With the way things are these days, if you can't beat them you may as well join them!

Lazar Marković assisted a Nani goal for Fenerbahçe this weekend...

A Liverpool player setting up a Nani goal isn't something I'd imagine me reading...

But if he can make Nani look good then he should be here assisting Benteke.

Can't wait to hear what he says after the Carlisle beating.

Todger's barely staying alive

I think it's irresponsible to leave us in a situation where Jordan Ibe is our only winger..

Sure Moreno, Coutinho and Firmino can do a job out there, but surely it's better to play them in their favoured positions?

I agree, if Brendan wants to play 4-3-3 then why get rid of our only natural "senior" winger? Milner and Lallana can also play there if needed. In fact I'd like to see us try Milner there at some point, problem is we'd have to wait until Hendo gets back before we do, although maybe in the League Cup we could try it with Rossiter in Milner's CM position?

Technically, he could even try Origi there too.

But yeah, we need Allen and Hendo fit first.

I'm waiting for him to play Sturridge on the wing and give him Chelsea flashbacks, then watching him putting in a transfer request.