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Old 26-09-2015, 17:56
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Not too convincing but a step in the right direction I suppose. At least we scored more than 1 in a match.

Meanwhile Carlisle United lost 1-0 at home to the bottom team in the entire football league, so that form from midweek is working out nicely. Not !
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Old 26-09-2015, 17:56
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This is such a horrible situation we're in.

A win to cover over the cracks and continue this average per season.
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:05
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This is such a horrible situation we're in.

A win to cover over the cracks and continue this average per season.
It must really hurt seeing the team win a game.

The next run of away games are difficult and we need to stay within touch of 4th. Such a plus having Sturridge back for these games.
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:12
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Happy with that, good win and good to have Sturridge back (hopefully for the rest of the season) 👍
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:14
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This is such a horrible situation we're in.

A win to cover over the cracks and continue this average per season.
I'd rather a win than a loss.

Hopefully this won't be a one-off result now.
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:15
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Happy with that, good win and good to have Sturridge back (hopefully for the rest of the season) 👍
Sturridge in the league since he signed in 2012/2013.

37 goals 4273 minutes. A goal every 115 mins.


Aguero in the league since 2012/2013

55 goals 6507 mins. A goal every 118 mins.


His pretty damn important.
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:16
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3 points, that's what's important. Hopefully we can follow this up with a win against Sion. We need to generate some momentum.

Glad to see we've remembered how to score goals, and I don't give a shit that we conceded given we won.
I hope we can get a good few goals against the Swiss side.Perhaps one or two for Origi and Lallana to help their confidence. There's certainly little wrong with Sturridge and Ings finding form fast and our other attacking talent starting to fire would be a fuirther great boost.
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:28
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I thought Ings and Sturridge worked well today. Ings was impressive (again), kept trying to make things happen and is unfortunate not to have an assist with the amount of times he tried to set Sturridge up. They could become a nice little duo.
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:41
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no matter how much you wanna see BR leave.

to actually want the team to lose. now thats fcked up!
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Old 26-09-2015, 18:53
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I expected a loss today, I was pleasantly surprised at the win, But it doesn't change the dreadful performances of the last 15-20 games in the league.

I am aghast at how fragile our back line is after we showed we can defend well in the first few games of the season, I hope that riding high on this win can carry us to more without the team getting complacent.
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Old 26-09-2015, 20:47
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I expected a loss today, I was pleasantly surprised at the win, But it doesn't change the dreadful performances of the last 15-20 games in the league.

I am aghast at how fragile our back line is after we showed we can defend well in the first few games of the season, I hope that riding high on this win can carry us to more without the team getting complacent.
I'd be okay with abandoning the solidity a little bit if it means we can score goals. What I can't accept is the errors.
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Old 26-09-2015, 21:14
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MOTM for me is Lucas. He let Hutton get the cross in for the first Villa goal, but other than that he was absolutely brilliant. Lost count of the amount of times he won the ball back. He read the game wonderfully, and his double teaming on Traore down our left hand side was vital.
He was excellent today. Considering he lost his grandmother last night (RIP Granma Lucas) I thought he more than put in a shift.
Pleased with the win, a few more of them, esp v Everton and things may calm down for BR a bit.
Hard not to be pleased after that unless you're one of those people hoping we lose to accelerate Brendan's departure. We controlled the game and Villa created very little. Sturridge marked his return to the side with 2 cracking goals and probably would have got a hat-trick had he been at 100%. He looked exhausted towards the end. Milner had a good game too, and Coutinho bagged 2 assists; he'll be delighted to have Sturridge's movement back in the side.

Gestede is a menace in the air and took his goals well. Perhaps Sakho could have done more with the 1st goal but I'd need to see it again. The 2nd was just a fantastic cross, leap and header.
Well I'm sorry but everyone has been bleating for Sakho to play because he's a beast and yet an average ex Cardiff & Blackburn striker again makes our Centre Backs look scared when near him. I too will watch again as at the match it's maybe not as black & white as it looked, I'll watch replays but Liverpool really need to stop making average players look world beaters when they play us.

Hope Brendan sticks with Ings & Sturridge next Sunday.
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Old 26-09-2015, 22:03
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no matter how much you wanna see BR leave.

to actually want the team to lose. now thats fcked up!
It's not that simple though is it? If you want Rodgers to go then while you don't want to see the team lose it does prolong the agony. United had the situation under Moyes. You want the team to win but.....you know something has to change and the odd win against teams you should beat anyway doesn't help the bigger picture.

I'm a United fan and I'm glad you won today because it keeps Rodgers in a job and Liverpool with him in charge doesn't scare me.
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Old 26-09-2015, 22:17
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It's not that simple though is it? If you want Rodgers to go then while you don't want to see the team lose it does prolong the agony. United had the situation under Moyes. You want the team to win but.....you know something has to change and the odd win against teams you should beat anyway doesn't help the bigger picture.

I'm a United fan and I'm glad you won today because it keeps Rodgers in a job and Liverpool with him in charge doesn't scare me.
I 100% understand what you are saying Eddie and you are right of course - but I still never go into a match wanting to see LFC lose - even tho I am now in the group who are pretty sure that we would like to see a change of manager
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Old 26-09-2015, 22:19
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I 100% understand what you are saying Eddie and you are right of course - but I still never go into a match wanting to see LFC lose - even tho I am now in the group who are pretty sure that we would like to see a change of manager
Oh yeah absolutely, you don't want your team to lose, but if you want change then beating teams you should hope to beat anyway just makes things awkward!
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Old 26-09-2015, 22:31
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He was excellent today. Considering he lost his grandmother last night (RIP Granma Lucas) I thought he more than put in a shift.
Pleased with the win, a few more of them, esp v Everton and things may calm down for BR a bit.


Well I'm sorry but everyone has been bleating for Sakho to play because he's a beast and yet an average ex Cardiff & Blackburn striker again makes our Centre Backs look scared when near him. I too will watch again as at the match it's maybe not as black & white as it looked, I'll watch replays but Liverpool really need to stop making average players look world beaters when they play us.

Hope Brendan sticks with Ings & Sturridge next Sunday.
Bit OTT. The villa striker got a run on sakho and won the header. I don't recall him worrying our defenders throughout the game though. Wasn't like the defence couldn't handle him every time villa crossed the ball in.

Regarding sakho, actually think heading is the weakest part of his game.
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Old 26-09-2015, 22:32
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It's not that simple though is it? If you want Rodgers to go then while you don't want to see the team lose it does prolong the agony. United had the situation under Moyes. You want the team to win but.....you know something has to change and the odd win against teams you should beat anyway doesn't help the bigger picture.

I'm a United fan and I'm glad you won today because it keeps Rodgers in a job and Liverpool with him in charge doesn't scare me.
It is similar to the end days of Rafa, a lot of United fans did not want him sacked before he was.
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Old 26-09-2015, 22:34
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Oh yeah absolutely, you don't want your team to lose, but if you want change then beating teams you should hope to beat anyway just makes things awkward!
It is just stalemate in a way, a holding pattern continues until the next unedifying defeat happens, then all of the unpleasantness goes again.
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Old 26-09-2015, 22:43
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Bit OTT. The villa striker got a run on sakho and won the header. I don't recall him worrying our defenders throughout the game though. Wasn't like the defence couldn't handle him every time villa crossed the ball in.

Regarding sakho, actually think heading is the weakest part of his game.
Not really. I am witnessing the same now as I did at the match as I am now on match choice football. I'm not just talking about the goal itself, which hasn't yet happened on match choice, 3 times already Gestede has beat him & Skrtel, not just to headers either. They need to be more physical I think. Sakho didn't get off the ground earlier, Gestede header went wide luckily, well actually he did get off the ground in a sort of throwing himself to the ground way
It is similar to the end days of Rafa, a lot of United fans did not want him sacked before he was.
A lot of Liverpool fans didn't either, obv for different reasons to you though.
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Old 27-09-2015, 00:54
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The Gestede header was a great header. The striker always has the advantage over a defender when the delivery is that good as the defender is going from a standing start while the striker is running onto the ball. Sometimes the best defence is stopping the cross in the first place.
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Old 27-09-2015, 08:12
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Watching MOTD it reminded me of the old SAS says, Sturridge especially his second goal made it look easy, he is a natural goal scorer. But similarly like the old SAS days our defence is bloody crap. I think with Sturridge back in action we have the striker situation sorted, the defence is still severely lacking and has been since Carragher left, we need an experienced world class defender to take control of defence the way Carragher did.
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Old 27-09-2015, 09:59
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I noticed on MOTD they didn't mention Coutinho's little back heel to Sturridge.
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Old 27-09-2015, 13:37
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BR is meant to be an expert on formations with the diamond, wing backs, 3 at the back ...etc all used at various times. At times I wonder over this when i see us use formations which do not play to our strengths Maybe he over thinks about line ups and tactics perhaps. Myself? - I make no such expertise claims, all I would say is that there are things which make us look and play much better and 2 up front is one such.

I do hope BR sticks with it with Studge and Ings in those roles for the foreseeable future but have my doubts that he will. I can see Benteke coming back in when fit or him looking at the defensive problems we have and having to tweak them (3 CBs or 5 in midfield to counter the opposition ...etc) resulting in the ditching of the 2 up front.

That for me would be a mistake - the 2 up front has to be part of the line up, it has to be the first thing he writes down on the team sheet and the rest fits round that - and based on current form I want the two to be Studge and Ings. That way we will become the attacking, attractive team that we all want to see - wasn't it good to see the way Studge took his goals yesterday and the fluid exciting way we played for at least parts of the match - if we keep that formation I hope it will start to become the norm again
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Old 27-09-2015, 14:48
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Even last season when Balotelli looked to be playing better it was due to us playing two up top, One up top just means our strikers are starved of good service as they are marked out of the game, It can work with the right players but we haven't had them in place.
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Old 27-09-2015, 14:53
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The reason the two up front works, is because there is more movement, Sturridge and Ings are both happy to drag defenders out of position, run down the channels...and so on, this gives the likes of Coutinho the movement he's been missing.

Keeping a front 3 in the way we did against Villa seems to be the way we work best.

We've got Firmino and Lallana who can both easily slot into that number 10 role, and up front having Benteke, Ings, Sturridge and Origi will give us options.
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