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Liverpool Supporters Thread (Part 21)
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kobashi100
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by ChristmasCake:
“Just noticed the ridiculous transfer committee has been retained. Disappointed by that.”

FSG seem to like this transfer committee model.
Sick Bullet
08-10-2015
Shame Klopp can't do as he pleases, but I'm sure he will get most of his way though.
Orchideam
08-10-2015
One of the most important days going, and my freakin internet drops out! (Engineer tomorrow for fix)

In pub celebrating my head off, just so dammed happy we got this guy, should send a shudder round the rest of the PL!

Cheers guys!
Dandem
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“You should watch the short video of Klopp holding a pen ready to sign, even that will make you smile and he doesn't even say anything ”

Even these two GIFs are making me grin from ear to ear.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQ0i-12WEAElWHX.mp4

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQ0kc8eWwAAIOgU.mp4
Michael_Vaughan
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“You should watch the short video of Klopp holding a pen ready to sign, even that will make you smile and he doesn't even say anything ”

Originally Posted by Dandem:
“Even these two GIFs are making me grin from ear to ear.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQ0i-12WEAElWHX.mp4

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQ0kc8eWwAAIOgU.mp4”

I can't get away from how evil Ian Ayre looks in that video. He's happy we've concluded the deal after dark, as it hasn't disturbed his daytime sleep in a coffin.
pjh8
08-10-2015
What a day for Irish LFC fans!
ChristmasCake
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by kobashi100:
“FSG seem to like this transfer committee model.”

I don't object to the model, I just object to our current incarnation.
Sick Bullet
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“Even these two GIFs are making me grin from ear to ear.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQ0i-12WEAElWHX.mp4

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CQ0kc8eWwAAIOgU.mp4”

Brilliant
alancracker
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“So he pretty much had nothing to do with the good that happened but everything to do with all the failures? Good things = Suárez and luck, bad things = Brendan Rodgers

I'm not saying he would've worked out in the end or anything but it's unfair to not give him any credit for any positives while allowing him to take the blame for all the failures.”

Originally Posted by misawa97:
“We were going nowhere under dalglish. The football wasn't great and the club became a PR nightmare. I would take a hell of a ride finishing 2nd and genuinely being in a title race than a poor boring league campaign and winning the carling cup all day.

ironically 2013/2014 was the most entertaining Liverpool side since Dalglish's 87/88 side.”

Most of you will know I do not fully agree with these assessments - but apart from putting on record my reservations about them I am not even going to go there with outlining why as today is a day for looking forward not back.

Just take it in that Jurgen Klopp is the new manager of LFC - how good is that!! I will be tuned it at 10 tomorrow that's for sure to hear his first press conference

Originally Posted by clarky323:
“I'd liked this one:

Glad its confirmed now, always fear something will go wrong until its confirmed. welcome to Liverpool Klopp! ”

Re poss Klopp songs

1, 2 3 o'clock 4 o'clock Klopp
5, 6 , 7 o'clock 8 o'clock Klopp
9, 10, 11 o'clcck 12 o'clock Klopp
We going to klopp around the Kop tonight

was another one I saw which I liked.
jeffiner1892
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by pjh8:
“What a day for Irish LFC fans!”

Living in the north but holding an Irish passport I look out for both sides, I'm not far off needing a coat hanger!
jeffiner1892
09-10-2015
I've also just watched One Night in Istanbul, nice way to round off a good footballing day.
bulldog rosie
09-10-2015
Originally Posted by pjh8:
“What a day for Irish LFC fans!”

I believe Mrs Mary O'Hara from County Clare was so excited ................She went to bed 10 mins later than normal !
misawa97
09-10-2015
Do not most clubs have something similar to a transfer committee?

The TC becomes a problem when there is no clear vision or methodology being put in place which all those involved including the manager agree on.

FSG have to fix this as it's all them with what was happening between committee and Rodgers.

I'm not sure why the media tried to assassinate the analytical guy. Nothing wrong with analytical data.

If I'm a manager and say find me a striker with good movement, scores from crosses and covers 5k of ground per game I'm pretty sure analytical data will find a list of strikers that cover that criteria far more quickly than sending scouts to go and find them.

Scouts are still important but the days of scouts going out to find players are in the first instance are gone.
ChristmasCake
09-10-2015
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Do not most clubs have something similar to a transfer committee?

The TC becomes a problem when there is no clear vision or methodology being put in place which all those involved including the manager agree on.

FSG have to fix this as it's all them with what was happening between committee and Rodgers.

I'm not sure why the media tried to assassinate the analytical guy. Nothing wrong with analytical data.

If I'm a manager and say find me a striker with good movement, scores from crosses and covers 5k of ground per game I'm pretty sure analytical data will find a list of strikers that cover that criteria far more quickly than sending scouts to go and find them.

Scouts are still important but the days of scouts going out to find players are in the first instance are gone.”


The transfer committee has been awful at Liverppol. By all means keep the model but if Rodgers is gone, surely the transfer committee needs looking at too?
Assa2
09-10-2015
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“Why Rodgers over Kenny's 2nd time? he won the league cup and made the fa cup final in his first season, Rodgers did nothing in my eyes, but a big thanks from Suarez.”

Evans, Rodgers and Dalglish v2 are pretty close in my mind. Silverware is nice but the LC does not gloss over the 2011/12 league season. This was IMO the worst league campaign in my lifetime. I don't give Rodgers full credit for 2013/14 but he gets a lot of it.
misawa97
09-10-2015
Originally Posted by ChristmasCake:
“The transfer committee has been awful at Liverppol. By all means keep the model but if Rodgers is gone, surely the transfer committee needs looking at too?”

It sure does need looking into.

Whatever they have told Klopp about it and how it works he must of been satisfied or he wouldnt agree to it.

I'm not against it per say but thats only if there is a change on how it operates as it clearly didnt work under the last Manager.
batdude_uk1
09-10-2015
Good press conference by your new manager.
misawa97
09-10-2015
Quote:
“"I've heard a lot about the English press, it's up to you to show me that they are all liars."”

Thats brilliant.
Wallasey Saint
09-10-2015
Jurgen Klopp "I've heard a lot about the English press, it's up to you to show me that they are all liars."

Also replying to a question asking when Jose Mourinho called himself the special one, Jurgen Klopp calls himself the normal one.
ChristmasCake
09-10-2015
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“It sure does need looking into.

Whatever they have told Klopp about it and how it works he must of been satisfied or he wouldnt agree to it.

I'm not against it per say but thats only if there is a change on how it operates as it clearly didnt work under the last Manager.”

Personally I think it's the so-called football people that have let us down, Fallows and Hunter.

Hopefully Klopp has his own scouting team or whatever role it is those two play..
taurus_67
09-10-2015
Words to the effect: " The transfer committee is not a problem; as long as I have the first word and the last word " .

Well, yes that's the way it should always work. The manager says he'd like an attacking LB and a pacey winger, and the team go an look for those types of players, compile the stats, find the videos etc and the possible candidates are offered to the manager who tells the Chief exec his preferred 1,2,3 and it's then upto to him to geta deal for the top target.

It goes tits-up when the middle men start pushing the players they prefer. It seems obvious that's what happened with Rodgers ( and to an extent it was also a problem with KD and Comolli ). I hope Klopp has the personality and FSG the sense the overcome any over-inflated egos that might be in the middle of the committee.
Assa2
09-10-2015
I think about it like owning a car. It's no use getting a fantastic deal on a new Mercedes gear box if you own a BMW. It feels like all too often the committee has been buying players based on their availability and perceived quality rather than if they would actually fit the team or a need in the team. I suspect Rodgers never had a strong enough personality to properly oppose the committee or lead it effectively. I get the feeling Klopp won't be like that.
bexmil89
09-10-2015
I loved that press conference. I loved it as soon as he arrived and he had that huge smile on his face
Orchideam
09-10-2015
Originally Posted by bexmil89:
“I loved that press conference. I loved it as soon as he arrived and he had that huge smile on his face ”

Me too, but I did wish that the dammed cameras could have waited till the end to take photos of him, they drowned a lot out, mostly questions to him.
Vinnie Vega
09-10-2015
Spurs supporter here.
I think you've got a gem in Klopp, he really could be the next top manager.

Exciting times for you, enjoy them, I've got the feeling he could get you right back to the top.
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