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Old 06-06-2015, 22:16
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Sadly I've had enough I just can't keep watching anymore. I've watched it all my life just about, but it hasn't been up to the same quality since 2010 - and since then, my love for the show has been dying. Kirkwood ruined the show, Newman didn't really do anything and now Treadwell-Collins is a copycat and unbalanced. It was good around the time Lucy got killed and her killers reveal, I'll give Treadwell-Collins that, but otherwise it's the Carter show with storylines being dragged out and going in circles. I also think a lot of characters have been given pretty big, unexplained personality transplants like Shabnam for one example.

The only reason I have kept watching the show between Lucy's death and her killers reveal is because Lacey Turner was back as Stacey. She's my favorite character and Treadwell-Collins promised exciting stuff for her, but that was over a year ago and all she has done is play a boring supporting character. Her next 'big' story is this tedious affair that looks to be between herself/Kush/Shabnam/Martin. ZZzzzzz.... I can't hold onto the show any longer for her sake alone and she barely features enough anyway to keep me interested. I'm probably going to keep an eye out for what she's up to via. social media but that's it.

I hope you all still enjoy it. I'll still come on here for the fun of it (and I still dip in and out of Emmerdale, which has been good), but that's it for me. I hope you all still continue to enjoy it. I feel like I'm going to have a lot more free time on my hands

Just curious though if anyone has been feeling close to stopping the show altogether because of its bad quality?
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:21
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I love the show, i think the quality is good, the writing has improved and some stand out performances.

However I will not be watching from when Kathy returns, simply because it is an insult to the fans and to our Intelligence. I am saying this as a fan and not with any anti EastEnders/BBC bashing bias. A shame beacuase I have watched from day one.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:25
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I love the show, i think the quality is good, the writing has improved and some stand out performances.

However I will not be watching from when Kathy returns, simply because it is an insult to the fans and to our intelligence. I am saying this as a fan and not with any anti EastEnders/BBC bashing bias. A shame beacuase I have watched from day one.
I definitely think the quality has improved under DTC from the Kirkwood/Newman years. But I think DTC is terrible in a different way to them. I think he really pushed for his own personal agendas over what's best for the show as a whole.

I also agree the Kathy thing was probably best not being done. Jaw dropping moment when I realised it was Kathy stepping out that taxi but once the shock faded I kinds of was like that's a silly idea. I'll give him probs though, it was a bold one, but has been done before ala Den and should have been left at that.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:26
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I stopped watching in 2006 and only started watching again around the time DTC started... I actually like the vast majority of his work and the Lucy story still has me gripped. I can't wait for the fabled "part two" to start
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:28
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Sadly I've had enough I just can't keep watching anymore. I've watched it all my life just about, but it hasn't been up to the same quality since 2010 - and since then, my love for the show has been dying. Kirkwood ruined the show, Newman didn't really do anything and now Treadwell-Collins is a copycat and unbalanced. It was good around the time Lucy got killed and her killers reveal, I'll give Treadwell-Collins that, but otherwise it's the Carter show with storylines being dragged out and going in circles. I also think a lot of characters have been given pretty big, unexplained personality transplants like Shabnam for one example.

The only reason I have kept watching the show between Lucy's death and her killers reveal is because Lacey Turner was back as Stacey. She's my favorite character and Treadwell-Collins promised exciting stuff for her, but that was over a year ago and all she has done is play a boring supporting character. Her next 'big' story is this tedious affair that looks to be between herself/Kush/Shabnam/Martin. ZZzzzzz.... I can't hold onto the show any longer for her sake alone and she barely features enough anyway to keep me interested. I'm probably going to keep an eye out for what she's up to via. social media but that's it.

I hope you all still enjoy it. I'll still come on here for the fun of it (and I still dip in and out of Emmerdale, which has been good), but that's it for me. I hope you all still continue to enjoy it. I feel like I'm going to have a lot more free time on my hands

Just curious though if anyone has been feeling close to stopping the show altogether because of its bad quality?
I love Stacey too and would prefer her to have something other than an affair. I would like to see Stacey go to college and have a career. As for the rest of the show I do like the Carters but have been enjoying the other characters' storylines, even Sharon's. It has been great to have a break from Dean, Shirley and Buster. I'm not a Carter basher. I do enjoy Mick, Linda and Nancy, it's just been good to see other storylines. I'm really enjoying Vincent, the Masoods, Beales and the Cokers. I like the hotness between Ben and Paul. I also like the writing regarding Sharon's birth father and the upcoming Kathy reveal. It's not good when your favourite character is just given romance or an affair and little else. However romance and family are a big part of life so I suppose it's reflected on soaps as it affects most people.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:30
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i think eastenders is by far and away a million times better than it was last year, the trouble is, it did become the carter show, and the storylines like the rape and shirley mick round about has been done to death now,

basically whats needed is sharon to have more major storylines, then ian and jane, denise and patrick, carol!!!!! leave the carters for at leaat 6 months,
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:32
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I stopped watching in 2006 and only started watching again around the time DTC started... I actually like the vast majority of his work and the Lucy story still has me gripped. I can't wait for the fabled "part two" to start
Don't hold your breath, I've been waiting for Stacey's "Act 2" to happen for over a year
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:38
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Sadly I've had enough I just can't keep watching anymore. I've watched it all my life just about, but it hasn't been up to the same quality since 2010 - and since then, my love for the show has been dying. Kirkwood ruined the show, Newman didn't really do anything and now Treadwell-Collins is a copycat and unbalanced. It was good around the time Lucy got killed and her killers reveal, I'll give Treadwell-Collins that, but otherwise it's the Carter show with storylines being dragged out and going in circles. I also think a lot of characters have been given pretty big, unexplained personality transplants like Shabnam for one example.

The only reason I have kept watching the show between Lucy's death and her killers reveal is because Lacey Turner was back as Stacey. She's my favorite character and Treadwell-Collins promised exciting stuff for her, but that was over a year ago and all she has done is play a boring supporting character. Her next 'big' story is this tedious affair that looks to be between herself/Kush/Shabnam/Martin. ZZzzzzz.... I can't hold onto the show any longer for her sake alone and she barely features enough anyway to keep me interested. I'm probably going to keep an eye out for what she's up to via. social media but that's it.

I hope you all still enjoy it. I'll still come on here for the fun of it (and I still dip in and out of Emmerdale, which has been good), but that's it for me. I hope you all still continue to enjoy it. I feel like I'm going to have a lot more free time on my hands

Just curious though if anyone has been feeling close to stopping the show altogether because of its bad quality?
That like me. I want eastenders becoming unmissable and entertaining. IMO I don't think the soap has been good since 2008/09 times. I keep saying to myself I am going to stop watching it but I can't because it is a habit which i found so annoying.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:41
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I love Stacey too and would prefer her to have something other than an affair. I would like to see Stacey go to college and have a career. As for the rest of the show I do like the Carters but have been enjoying the other characters' storylines, even Sharon's. It has been great to have a break from Dean, Shirley and Buster. I'm not a Carter basher. I do enjoy Mick, Linda and Nancy, it's just been good to see other storylines. I'm really enjoying Vincent, the Masoods, Beales and the Cokers. I like the hotness between Ben and Paul. I also like the writing regarding Sharon's birth father and the upcoming Kathy reveal. It's not good when your favourite character is just given romance or an affair and little else. However romance and family are a big part of life so I suppose it's reflected on soaps as it affects most people.
I would have loved to have seen more emphasis on Stacey and Lily's relationship and seen that built up so much more. I think the pay off would have also been great if Lily was the one that had fallen I'll with a brain tumor (a low chance surviving one) in a storyline which would have provided Lacey - and the young actress playing her daughter - with phenomenal chance to perform (I was actually thinking all this before Alfie got his brain tumor as well ). The one thing I don't like with the writing in the Sharon finding her biological Dad story is that it seems a bit out of nowhere and forced to give her some purpose. Also I hate how the writers keep making her say "My REAL Dad" - Den was always Sharon's real Dad and it feels out of character for Sharon (for how much she loved Den), I think she'd say "biological father" tbh.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:45
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That like me. I want eastenders becoming unmissable and entertaining. IMO I don't think the soap has been good since 2008/09 times. I keep saying to myself I am going to stop watching it but I can't because it is a habit which i found so annoying.
That's what I was like during the 2011-2013 era. It was just out of habit that I kept watching - hoping that it would pick up again. It's not been like 2008/09 era quality since.

I'm determined though that I'm going to break this habit of watching.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:48
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I love Stacey too and would prefer her to have something other than an affair. I would like to see Stacey go to college and have a career. As for the rest of the show I do like the Carters but have been enjoying the other characters' storylines, even Sharon's. It has been great to have a break from Dean, Shirley and Buster. I'm not a Carter basher. I do enjoy Mick, Linda and Nancy, it's just been good to see other storylines. I'm really enjoying Vincent, the Masoods, Beales and the Cokers. I like the hotness between Ben and Paul. I also like the writing regarding Sharon's birth father and the upcoming Kathy reveal. It's not good when your favourite character is just given romance or an affair and little else. However romance and family are a big part of life so I suppose it's reflected on soaps as it affects most people.
I gave up watching when Niger left and have never looked back.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:48
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I definitely think the quality has improved under DTC from the Kirkwood/Newman years. But I think DTC is terrible in a different way to them. I think he really pushed for his own personal agendas over what's best for the show as a whole.

I also agree the Kathy thing was probably best not being done. Jaw dropping moment when I realised it was Kathy stepping out that taxi but once the shock faded I kinds of was like that's a silly idea. I'll give him probs though, it was a bold one, but has been done before ala Den and should have been left at that.
I completely agree with the Kathy storyline and the Kat Slater one, totally unnecessary. EastEnders can be the worst of the soaps, imo, for not leaving things in the past.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:51
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The show has a bad reputation but its a guilty pleasure of mine.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:52
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I largely gave up a week or so after the live week (have watched a total of about four episodes since then). Biggest issues for me were:

- the way in which DTC has a habit of starting storylines then not really finishing them or forgetting about them. Most notably Stacey's key or the Ben/Lucy Miami thing

- the massive flaws in the Who Killed Lucy storyline, such as how Jane managed to drag Lucy's body out to the car in a busy street with a party going on without anyone seeing it (particularly Max who was near the house)

- the Carter show. Just too much too early with the characters. and the rape storyline dragged on massively

- most importantly though, I just find it boring nowadays. not sure why particularly, but it just all feels very dull. I couldn't care less which nobody is Sharon's real father for example
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:57
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Is it just me or do all soaps tend to have similar story lines all happening around the same time?

I used to watch Eastenders regularly in the late 90s/early 00s but have to admit I gave up around 2005 when some of the younger acting cast were hideous. Some of the most wooden arguments I'd seen on TV.

It got going again around 2009/2010 but then I started to lose interest all over again.

Agree with the above comment about refusing to keep things in the past. For me, that says a lot about the script writers and that they haven't got the imagination to come up with a fantastic new storyline that would keep the viewers hooked. Sadly Eastenders know when they've got a good storyline - they keep it running for what seems like an eternity before the story gets to its conclusion. Again, that'll be down to the script writers not having the ability to keep writing great storylines on a regular basis hence the good old recycling bin gets brought out and contents emptied now and again.
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Old 06-06-2015, 22:58
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It's been up and down, this year so far has been rather pants, the quality has nose dive a lot, I agree about the Carters, they're in a far worse position then last year, the last two weeks has been rather good imo, I know some found it a bit mundane but I just enjoyed the break in dull and repetive storylines, has DTC seen his day...perhaps, six months in, 4 months since the Live the storylines have been rather slow and lapsed, we now in for a boring summer waiting till September when they rely on the big storyline for Xmas to start.

I too watch out of habit so would find it hard to break.
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:00
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That's what I was like during the 2011-2013 era. It was just out of habit that I kept watching - hoping that it would pick up again. It's not been like 2008/09 era quality since.

I'm determined though that I'm going to break this habit of watching.
Nowadays It just seems so slow. I want the old eastenders I used to love so much. I think there too many new characters who has no developments and the stories just drag.
The last good producer was Diedrick Santer after he left the show has gone downhill. I am scared this is how it going to be like from now on because back in 2011/12/13 times I keep saying to myself the show is going to back to it glory days. Now I'm not sure It like DTC changed the identify of the show and it doesn't feel like eastenders anymore. I just wish dtc could put more effort to the show and make it interesting.
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:04
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I largely gave up a week or so after the live week (have watched a total of about four episodes since then). Biggest issues for me were:

- the way in which DTC has a habit of starting storylines then not really finishing them or forgetting about them. Most notably Stacey's key or the Ben/Lucy Miami thing

- the massive flaws in the Who Killed Lucy storyline, such as how Jane managed to drag Lucy's body out to the car in a busy street with a party going on without anyone seeing it (particularly Max who was near the house)

- the Carter show. Just too much too early with the characters. and the rape storyline dragged on massively

- most importantly though, I just find it boring nowadays. not sure why particularly, but it just all feels very dull. I couldn't care less which nobody is Sharon's real father for example
Agree with your points, especially the first one drives me mad. It really is dull now though, it's lost its energy. That's the best way I can describe it. Emmerdale however even when there isn't much going on you can feel the energy and the passion going in behind it from all angles.
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:08
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Nowadays It just seems so slow. I want the old eastenders I used to love so much. I think there too many new characters who has no developments and the stories just drag.
The last good producer was Diedrick Santer after he left the show has gone downhill. I am scared this is how it going to be like from now on because back in 2011/12/13 times I keep saying to myself the show is going to back to it glory days. Now I'm not sure It like DTC changed the identify of the show and it doesn't feel like eastenders anymore. I just wish dtc could put more effort to the show and make it interesting.
definitely agree. Imagine they got Diedrick back? I'd be over the moon
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:09
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Random question of the day.

Are there any funny characters in Eastenders? It's all incredibly serious and sometimes you just need that break up between the serious storylines and the more light hearted moments that give the viewer a lift (i.e. a scene that genuinely provides a LOL moment).
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:11
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definitely agree. Imagine they got Diedrick back? I'd be over the moon
I will be so happy if he, John Yorke or Matthew Robinson came back.
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:13
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I just get confused watching this show now. Despite watching every episode so far this year I haven't a clue what's going on. E.g. Who's this woman who's with Les and Vincent? And why did Phil lie about Sharon's father? And does anyone know why and how Pam killed her son? Think I might of missed a episode
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:13
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Random question of the day.

Are there any funny characters in Eastenders? It's all incredibly serious and sometimes you just need that break up between the serious storylines and the more light hearted moments that give the viewer a lift (i.e. a scene that genuinely provides a LOL moment).
EE tends to do dry/dark humour quite well. Recently they've given us the fantastic "It's kettle", "You're lucky I don't kick that stick from under yah", "I just bumped into Lucy and battered her" etc etc. Not your everyday comedy but when delivered right can be funny.

As for EE, I am liking it at the moment but I feel like I'm watching it out of habit more than anything else. There are some storylines that I am interested in but I feel that everything is dragged out a bit too much, I get that not all storylines can start and end within a few weeks but when it happens with nearly every plot it just makes you tired and you lose the will to stick with it.
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:15
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I was disappointed with the Lucy reveal (although the acting was fantastic) because I really wanted it to be Abi and Bobby just seemed like a cop-out as he's hardly a major character. I don't mind the Carter dominance though as I really like them and I'm pleased Kat & Alfie have gone as they had become so unlikeable.
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Old 06-06-2015, 23:21
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I would have loved to have seen more emphasis on Stacey and Lily's relationship and seen that built up so much more. I think the pay off would have also been great if Lily was the one that had fallen I'll with a brain tumor (a low chance surviving one) in a storyline which would have provided Lacey - and the young actress playing her daughter - with phenomenal chance to perform (I was actually thinking all this before Alfie got his brain tumor as well ). The one thing I don't like with the writing in the Sharon finding her biological Dad story is that it seems a bit out of nowhere and forced to give her some purpose. Also I hate how the writers keep making her say "My REAL Dad" - Den was always Sharon's real Dad and it feels out of character for Sharon (for how much she loved Den), I think she'd say "biological father" tbh.
I agree that Lily could have an illness. Maybe meningitis. This would also bring the issue more publicity. People should know what signs to look for and the storyline could have Lacey acting her socks off. I really liked her in Our Girl. As for Sharon I like The Albert story with Vincent too. I've never been a Sharon fan but the writing for her has been very good recently. The Gordon thing was quite funny. I think Kathy's return will be linked to Sharon's biological dad.
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