Seriously?
If the army is supposed to train discipline into youth, what happened with Marc?
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I bet people would soon forget his mischievousness when he saved someone's life.
I know who I'd chose to go into battle with if I ever had to, and it would be with the likes of Marc.
I know who I'd chose to go into battle with if I ever had to, and it would be with the likes of Marc.
I think that's a bit unfair.
Marc has specifically stated that he and his fellow army friends talk like that and use that kind of humour. This is in their own time and it is what war is like, then obviously when are training/under attack etc... they would need to be professional. Marc has probably done a lot of good in his time in the army.
My friend is in the army and says that the group of men are like a close family and use difficult and sometimes offensive humour to try and soften the position they are in. Then when they get to work, they switch and go into professional mode.
But I do agree that Marc needs to learn that the HMs are not his army friends so won't find some of his stuff very funny.
In the DR at the end and during the Joel interview, he proved that he can be calm and sensible in certain situations, as he would have learnt in the army. And sadly, I think the army (whether it is just the training aspect of it or actually going to war) can destroy a persons mentality. My friend turned to drink and drinks more than the amount Marc stated yesterday.
Marc has specifically stated that he and his fellow army friends talk like that and use that kind of humour. This is in their own time and it is what war is like, then obviously when are training/under attack etc... they would need to be professional. Marc has probably done a lot of good in his time in the army.
My friend is in the army and says that the group of men are like a close family and use difficult and sometimes offensive humour to try and soften the position they are in. Then when they get to work, they switch and go into professional mode.
But I do agree that Marc needs to learn that the HMs are not his army friends so won't find some of his stuff very funny.
In the DR at the end and during the Joel interview, he proved that he can be calm and sensible in certain situations, as he would have learnt in the army. And sadly, I think the army (whether it is just the training aspect of it or actually going to war) can destroy a persons mentality. My friend turned to drink and drinks more than the amount Marc stated yesterday.
I've known a few people in the army and who are ex-army and none have spoken in front of me like Marc or shown me disrespect because I'm female. I'm sure some do talk like Marc but it's not compulsory or inevitable.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I think that's a bit unfair.
Marc has specifically stated that he and his fellow army friends talk like that and use that kind of humour. This is in their own time and it is what war is like, then obviously when are training/under attack etc... they would need to be professional. Marc has probably done a lot of good in his time in the army.
My friend is in the army and says that the group of men are like a close family and use difficult and sometimes offensive humour to try and soften the position they are in. Then when they get to work, they switch and go into professional mode.
But I do agree that Marc needs to learn that the HMs are not his army friends so won't find some of his stuff very funny.
In the DR at the end and during the Joel interview, he proved that he can be calm and sensible in certain situations, as he would have learnt in the army. And sadly, I think the army (whether it is just the training aspect of it or actually going to war) can destroy a persons mentality. My friend turned to drink and drinks more than the amount Marc stated yesterday.”
“I think that's a bit unfair.
Marc has specifically stated that he and his fellow army friends talk like that and use that kind of humour. This is in their own time and it is what war is like, then obviously when are training/under attack etc... they would need to be professional. Marc has probably done a lot of good in his time in the army.
My friend is in the army and says that the group of men are like a close family and use difficult and sometimes offensive humour to try and soften the position they are in. Then when they get to work, they switch and go into professional mode.
But I do agree that Marc needs to learn that the HMs are not his army friends so won't find some of his stuff very funny.
In the DR at the end and during the Joel interview, he proved that he can be calm and sensible in certain situations, as he would have learnt in the army. And sadly, I think the army (whether it is just the training aspect of it or actually going to war) can destroy a persons mentality. My friend turned to drink and drinks more than the amount Marc stated yesterday.”
Good points. One thing that is obvious to me regarding Marc; he gets upset/tearful about other people who are having a hard time, never about himself - that tells me he's a team player and completely unselfish, in the real meaning of the word. I like what I see beneath the construct.
Marcs not in the army, is he?
Maybe the Irish army has different standards but I've never met a serviceman who would act like that around civilians. Maybe they do amongst themselves but I usually find them respectful because they feel they are representing their unit.
Maybe the Irish army has different standards but I've never met a serviceman who would act like that around civilians. Maybe they do amongst themselves but I usually find them respectful because they feel they are representing their unit.
Originally Posted by Birdcage:
“Good points. One thing that is obvious to me regarding Marc; he gets upset/tearful about other people who are having a hard time, never about himself - that tells me he's a team player and completely unselfish, in the real meaning of the word. I like what I see beneath the construct.”
“Good points. One thing that is obvious to me regarding Marc; he gets upset/tearful about other people who are having a hard time, never about himself - that tells me he's a team player and completely unselfish, in the real meaning of the word. I like what I see beneath the construct.”
It's not an 'either or'. You can be a team player and still not talk to women the way he does.
Originally Posted by kimindex:
“It's not an 'either or'. You can be a team player and still not talk to women the way he does.”
“It's not an 'either or'. You can be a team player and still not talk to women the way he does.”
Where did I say it was?
Originally Posted by Birdcage:
“Good points. One thing that is obvious to me regarding Marc; he gets upset/tearful about other people who are having a hard time, never about himself - that tells me he's a team player and completely unselfish, in the real meaning of the word. I like what I see beneath the construct.”
“Good points. One thing that is obvious to me regarding Marc; he gets upset/tearful about other people who are having a hard time, never about himself - that tells me he's a team player and completely unselfish, in the real meaning of the word. I like what I see beneath the construct.”
He seemed pretty pissed off they nominated him. His "dont care" attitude is so thin, he's desperate to be liked.
Originally Posted by Birdcage:
“Where did I say it was?”
“Where did I say it was?”
Where did I say you said it was? It was a comment in response to your point, just like your replies are. So you are not excusing the crude and disrespectful etc ( 'mischievious' as you underplay it) part of his behaviour because you suspect he's a team player and completely unselfish, then? In that case, there was no real point in you mentioning that, since it can't act as a justification.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I think that's a bit unfair.
Marc has specifically stated that he and his fellow army friends talk like that and use that kind of humour. This is in their own time and it is what war is like, then obviously when are training/under attack etc... they would need to be professional. Marc has probably done a lot of good in his time in the army.
My friend is in the army and says that the group of men are like a close family and use difficult and sometimes offensive humour to try and soften the position they are in. Then when they get to work, they switch and go into professional mode.
But I do agree that Marc needs to learn that the HMs are not his army friends so won't find some of his stuff very funny.
In the DR at the end and during the Joel interview, he proved that he can be calm and sensible in certain situations, as he would have learnt in the army. And sadly, I think the army (whether it is just the training aspect of it or actually going to war) can destroy a persons mentality. My friend turned to drink and drinks more than the amount Marc stated yesterday.”
“I think that's a bit unfair.
Marc has specifically stated that he and his fellow army friends talk like that and use that kind of humour. This is in their own time and it is what war is like, then obviously when are training/under attack etc... they would need to be professional. Marc has probably done a lot of good in his time in the army.
My friend is in the army and says that the group of men are like a close family and use difficult and sometimes offensive humour to try and soften the position they are in. Then when they get to work, they switch and go into professional mode.
But I do agree that Marc needs to learn that the HMs are not his army friends so won't find some of his stuff very funny.
In the DR at the end and during the Joel interview, he proved that he can be calm and sensible in certain situations, as he would have learnt in the army. And sadly, I think the army (whether it is just the training aspect of it or actually going to war) can destroy a persons mentality. My friend turned to drink and drinks more than the amount Marc stated yesterday.”
I agree, you put it better than I did.
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“He seemed pretty pissed off they nominated him. His "dont care" attitude is so thin, he's desperate to be liked.”
“He seemed pretty pissed off they nominated him. His "dont care" attitude is so thin, he's desperate to be liked.”
I think anyone who goes on bb is desperate to be liked to be honest, why else would they be there? I just think there's more to Marc than the show. Shame he felt the need to go on there, but if he hadn't I would never have known about him, and I'm glad I do know about him, so there you go.
Originally Posted by kimindex:
“Where did I say you said it was? It was a comment in response to your point, just like yours.”
“Where did I say you said it was? It was a comment in response to your point, just like yours.”
eh??
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I was part of a RAF family, till my late teens ... I have NEVER witness anything remotely like what Marc has done in the house.
Maybe RAF is more disciplined than the Army
Maybe RAF is more disciplined than the Army
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“I was part of a RAF family, till my late teens ... I have NEVER witness anything remotely like what Marc has done in the house.
Maybe RAF is more disciplined than the Army”
“I was part of a RAF family, till my late teens ... I have NEVER witness anything remotely like what Marc has done in the house.
Maybe RAF is more disciplined than the Army
”
Yes, you're right, the RAF is completely different to the army.
And before anyone says I'm defending his comments, I'M NOT. Hence why I said he should cut out the comments, I do still like him though, There is nothing wrong with being irritating like he is being. It's just the comments.
I read online that he suffers from both bipolar and ADHD, however that was on Twitter so most likely false.
I read online that he suffers from both bipolar and ADHD, however that was on Twitter so most likely false.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“And before anyone says I'm defending his comments, I'M NOT. Hence why I said he should cut out the comments, I do still like him though, There is nothing wrong with being irritating like he is being. It's just the comments.
I read online that he suffers from both bipolar and ADHD, however that was on Twitter so most likely false.”
“And before anyone says I'm defending his comments, I'M NOT. Hence why I said he should cut out the comments, I do still like him though, There is nothing wrong with being irritating like he is being. It's just the comments.
I read online that he suffers from both bipolar and ADHD, however that was on Twitter so most likely false.”
There is if he is deliberately trying to make people uncomfortable as he claims. There's nothing admirable (no, I'm not saying you said that - I'm making a point in response, as above) in doing that, even if it is a TV show.
Originally Posted by Birdcage:
“Oh well, we could go on like this forever.”
“Oh well, we could go on like this forever.”
I'll leave that to you so you can finish what you started. For clarity, when I said 'it's not an 'either or', if you agreed, you could simply have said 'I agree', instead of 'Where did I say it was?'.
Originally Posted by kimindex:
“There is if he is deliberately trying to make people uncomfortable as he claims. There's nothing admirable (no, I'm not saying you said that - I'm making a point in response, as above) in doing that, even if it is a TV show.”
“There is if he is deliberately trying to make people uncomfortable as he claims. There's nothing admirable (no, I'm not saying you said that - I'm making a point in response, as above) in doing that, even if it is a TV show.”
As I said there is NOTHING against the rules on being irritating bar getting naked and getting in someones personal space.
Those who get offended by him being a WUM should just stop watching. I don't even want to know what people were like during BB6 with Science. If he didn't get told off for being irritating, why should Marc?
Watch this... people on here found this hilarious at the time, had Marc done the same thing to Chloe in this series, the same people who found Science hilarious would have found Marc insulting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNN3b-_52jg
I think it's due to people becoming offended over everything. No wonder CH5 puts out the long warnings at the start of every show. Next they should add, "be prepared for HMs being annoying that lots of viewers may find distressing".
Originally Posted by kimindex:
“I'll leave that to you so you can finish what you started. For clarity, when I said 'it's not an 'either or', if you agreed, you could simply have said 'I agree', instead of 'Where did I say it was?'.”
“I'll leave that to you so you can finish what you started. For clarity, when I said 'it's not an 'either or', if you agreed, you could simply have said 'I agree', instead of 'Where did I say it was?'.”
Finish what I started? I could simply said 'I agree'??
Or maybe I could just not be interested in your posts at all. Have you considered that?
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“And before anyone says I'm defending his comments, I'M NOT. Hence why I said he should cut out the comments, I do still like him though, There is nothing wrong with being irritating like he is being. It's just the comments.
I read online that he suffers from both bipolar and ADHD, however that was on Twitter so most likely false.”
“And before anyone says I'm defending his comments, I'M NOT. Hence why I said he should cut out the comments, I do still like him though, There is nothing wrong with being irritating like he is being. It's just the comments.
I read online that he suffers from both bipolar and ADHD, however that was on Twitter so most likely false.”
I agree his comments are offensive at times. While he did say it was army banter I think some are taking that and using it in the wrong way. He has indeed learnt discipline in the army as every time BB calls him into the DR he respects what they say and apologises.
That is how the army works .. respect those in charge .. banter with your mates and don't take it personal. I very much doubt he said anything inappropriate to his superiors. Joel seems to think that was a good point to make when complaining about Marcs language but it s not the same at all. He had respect for Eileen and from what I've seen he is respectful to Simon too.
Loved that Clip too and watching Makosi and Anthony enjoying the view .. ahh the good old days
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