Anyone signed up with FreedomPop?

Thine Wonk · 10-06-2015, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1973

I'd be rejoicing more, if we saw the end of Zero hour contracts. Kick started the Steel Industry, and turned the flats back into Factories.

Ironic though how the linked story also highlights the point I made previously on post #19

Is pretty much word for word with what I previously said

The report doesnt seem to mention what share the UK has of Nissan's entire component sourcing - ie how much of the car is sourced from the UK compared to still being imported from elsewhere, although I suspect the use of the word ';significant' suggests that it may still be considerable.

When they ban zero hours, don't you just think employers will work around it with 1 hour, 5 hour or some other part time or non guaranteed work. Many students and older people actually like them, exlusive zero hours are banned now and surely a more full labour market will lead to employers having to compete more to get staff and to compete more for good people. 70% of all the jobs people have got in the last 2 years have been full time employment.

I'm fed up of hearing the same moaners spouting broken Britain, same old zero hours nonsense and this and that. The evidence of progress is in this thread, the grass is not greener anywhere else in Europe right now, we've got twice the GDP growth of Germany, the fastest growing economy in Europe, a car industry back to pre2008 productivity and seeing big investment and growth.

coachtrip_fan99 · 10-06-2015, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

When they ban zero hours, don't you just think employers will work around it with 1 hour, 5 hour or some other part time or non guaranteed work. Many students and older people actually like them, exlusive zero hours are banned now and surely a more full labour market will lead to employers having to compete more to get staff and to compete more for good people. 70% of all the jobs people have got in the last 2 years have been full time employment.

I'm fed up of hearing the same moaners spouting broken Britain, same old zero hours nonsense and this and that. The evidence of progress is in this thread, the grass is not greener anywhere else in Europe right now, we've got twice the GDP growth of Germany, the fastest growing economy in Europe, a car industry back to pre2008 productivity and seeing big investment and growth.

As much as I would prefer this thread to get back on topic; I would just like to add my opinion on this.

A friend of mine works for a well known sports retailer on a zero hours contract. They call her into work at the drop of a hat, with very little notice. However, if she wishes to take any holiday time (not that she gets paid any holiday pay) she must provide them with something like 4 weeks' notice, and have it authorised before she can commit to anything.

To me, this is completely unacceptable. If I was in her position I would politely tell them to shove their job, and tell them that if they want me to be flexible for them, then I expect the same in return. (Not that they would be bothered; they would simply find some other poor sod to exploit.)

Thine Wonk · 10-06-2015, 20:53

It is like that for some people, I wouldn't deny it. That doesn't mean it's the same for everyone or that you could ban it, if you did businesses would likely find a workaround and then that also means the people who do want that flexibility cannot do casual work.

We've drifted away from the original "broken Britain" comment, and even further from the original topic!

nafanny29 · 10-06-2015, 21:20

Thread has gone slightly OT!

finbaar · 11-06-2015, 12:28

Whats everyones favourite tree? Mine is the willow as I like cricket.

psionic · 11-06-2015, 14:44

I had to double check I wasn't in the politics forum

Zebb · 23-08-2015, 00:02

Any FreedomPop UK news yet?

sdduk · 23-08-2015, 11:58

Who really gives a damn about how long freedompop last its something for free
and everybody loves a freebie just don't rely on it and don't use your normal sim simple.

As for the UK economy i would rather live here then Greece at the moment.

moox · 23-08-2015, 12:02

I still don't get the attraction. Mobile service in the UK is already fairly cheap, so why would I sign up to a service with a number of limitations and the potential to disappear overnight, just to save a couple of quid?

BeeDog45 · 23-08-2015, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by moox

I still don't get the attraction. Mobile service in the UK is already fairly cheap, so why would I sign up to a service with a number of limitations and the potential to disappear overnight, just to save a couple of quid?

as long as foodbanks exist then there is a place for any kind of free service no matter what... Unfortunately some people rely on opportunities to save a couple of quid.

DS Forum Support · 23-08-2015, 13:10

Hi, guys. Let's try and keep the thread on-topic from now on as the discussion veered off completely. We don't really want to have to remove posts due to clutter. Thanks.

alan.w · 23-08-2015, 14:05

I signed up but still have not heard anything except the welcome type auto e-mail at that time

moox · 23-08-2015, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeDog45

as long as foodbanks exist then there is a place for any kind of free service no matter what... Unfortunately some people rely on opportunities to save a couple of quid.

We're talking about a service that can cost pennies to use, once you have the phone - e.g. 3's 321 tariff or the cheap plans offered by the supermarkets. For that you get reliable service from a company that is not likely to go bust overnight.

If the key thing is to push advertising, you will need customers with money, surely

swb1964 · 23-08-2015, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeDog45

as long as foodbanks exist then there is a place for any kind of free service no matter what... Unfortunately some people rely on opportunities to save a couple of quid.

Sure. But if they are only aiming for the very bottom end of the market (people who can't even afford a 7.50 goodybag a month) then the users aren't going to be terribly appealing to advertisers. ...

cooler · 23-08-2015, 14:22

Has this service launched already?
Has anyone received a SIM?

The engadget website says 'Free mobile plans are coming to the UK in July',

http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/13/f...the-uk-in-july

alan.w · 24-08-2015, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooler

Has this service launched already?
Has anyone received a SIM?

The engadget website says 'Free mobile plans are coming to the UK in July',

http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/13/f...the-uk-in-july

Did they say what year?

bikerlad · 23-09-2015, 10:46

Looks like it's gone live today:

Quote:

The UK's newest MVNO has launched today, and as promised, offers a completely free SIM-only tariff with 200 minutes, 200 texts and 200MB of 4G data per month (courtesy of Three's network) -- well, it's free after you pay the £7 for SIM delivery and activation, anyway.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/23/f...pop-uk-launch/

Brady12 · 23-09-2015, 13:16

"By clicking Activate, you agree to pay the amount Due Today. Your FreedomPop service will not begin until your device ships. Your subscription includes a 30-day free service trial. At the conclusion of your free trial, your service will automatically renew at the rate provided. You also authorize FreedomPop to charge £1.99 every month for continued service. Cancel or downgrade at any time."

GavinAshford · 23-09-2015, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brady12

"By clicking Activate, you agree to pay the amount Due Today. Your FreedomPop service will not begin until your device ships. Your subscription includes a 30-day free service trial. At the conclusion of your free trial, your service will automatically renew at the rate provided. You also authorize FreedomPop to charge £1.99 every month for continued service. Cancel or downgrade at any time."

Go back a page and decline the month free 1st month trial of Premium Voice. Then its £6.99 up front, £0.00 per month.

moox · 23-09-2015, 13:44

Still don't see the attraction myself. Maybe if I was such a cheapskate that even giffgaff was too much, but I'd rather pay £15 a month and get dependable service from a company that is unlikely to go bust any time soon

lost boy · 23-09-2015, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikerlad

Looks like it's gone live today:

http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/23/f...pop-uk-launch/

It would appear so, yes:

FreedomPop blog update

So much for signing up early... Anyway:

Quote:

Originally Posted by moox

Still don't see the attraction myself. Maybe if I was such a cheapskate that even giffgaff was too much, but I'd rather pay £15 a month and get dependable service from a company that is unlikely to go bust any time soon

I'm in two minds about it myself.

On the one hand; it runs on Three so there (for me) won't be any issue with coverage, and it seems decent for call and text allowances on the face of it.

On the other hand; early signup seems to have been nothing but a time filler (I haven't heard a thing since signing up in May, it's now September and boom - they're live), £2 delivery and £5 activation (yes I can see the reasoning behind it, but after the 4 months of nothing after signing up early it's a bit offputting), various questions seem very much open (e.g. does it need a 3G handset to work, with it's network partner being Three), and so on.

Overall, I'll probably end up giving it a go at some point - can't say I'd consider using it as a main provider just yet though. Personally, I'd need a bit more information before going down that road.

Gigabit · 23-09-2015, 17:57

Signed up

lightspeed2398 · 23-09-2015, 18:01

Is it just 3? I thought they were planning to get a second network as well?

lost boy · 23-09-2015, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

Is it just 3? I thought they were planning to get a second network as well?

According to this link:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechCrunch

In the case of the UK service, FreedomPop is first partnering with Hutchison Whampoa’s Three to provide network connectivity, as well as with another company providing integration services. (FreedomPop CEO/co-founder Stephen) Stokols says that it is talking with another carrier to add its network into the mix, along with a likely tie-up to offload data to WiFi-based broadband connectivity as well.

At the moment though - yes, it's just Three.

sdduk · 23-09-2015, 22:39

Don't say nothing about being live on there website.
when i try and put my post code and email address in it comes up with (Please check form fields for valid input.) even tried a different email address but still the same thing comes up.

10-06-2015, 19:05	#26
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris1973 I'd be rejoicing more, if we saw the end of Zero hour contracts. Kick started the Steel Industry, and turned the flats back into Factories. Ironic though how the linked story also highlights the point I made previously on post #19 Is pretty much word for word with what I previously said The report doesnt seem to mention what share the UK has of Nissan's entire component sourcing - ie how much of the car is sourced from the UK compared to still being imported from elsewhere, although I suspect the use of the word ';significant' suggests that it may still be considerable. When they ban zero hours, don't you just think employers will work around it with 1 hour, 5 hour or some other part time or non guaranteed work. Many students and older people actually like them, exlusive zero hours are banned now and surely a more full labour market will lead to employers having to compete more to get staff and to compete more for good people. 70% of all the jobs people have got in the last 2 years have been full time employment. I'm fed up of hearing the same moaners spouting broken Britain, same old zero hours nonsense and this and that. The evidence of progress is in this thread, the grass is not greener anywhere else in Europe right now, we've got twice the GDP growth of Germany, the fastest growing economy in Europe, a car industry back to pre2008 productivity and seeing big investment and growth.

10-06-2015, 20:44	#27
coachtrip_fan99 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,127	Quote: Originally Posted by Thine Wonk When they ban zero hours, don't you just think employers will work around it with 1 hour, 5 hour or some other part time or non guaranteed work. Many students and older people actually like them, exlusive zero hours are banned now and surely a more full labour market will lead to employers having to compete more to get staff and to compete more for good people. 70% of all the jobs people have got in the last 2 years have been full time employment. I'm fed up of hearing the same moaners spouting broken Britain, same old zero hours nonsense and this and that. The evidence of progress is in this thread, the grass is not greener anywhere else in Europe right now, we've got twice the GDP growth of Germany, the fastest growing economy in Europe, a car industry back to pre2008 productivity and seeing big investment and growth. As much as I would prefer this thread to get back on topic; I would just like to add my opinion on this. A friend of mine works for a well known sports retailer on a zero hours contract. They call her into work at the drop of a hat, with very little notice. However, if she wishes to take any holiday time (not that she gets paid any holiday pay) she must provide them with something like 4 weeks' notice, and have it authorised before she can commit to anything. To me, this is completely unacceptable. If I was in her position I would politely tell them to shove their job, and tell them that if they want me to be flexible for them, then I expect the same in return. (Not that they would be bothered; they would simply find some other poor sod to exploit.)

10-06-2015, 20:53	#28
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	It is like that for some people, I wouldn't deny it. That doesn't mean it's the same for everyone or that you could ban it, if you did businesses would likely find a workaround and then that also means the people who do want that flexibility cannot do casual work. We've drifted away from the original "broken Britain" comment, and even further from the original topic!

10-06-2015, 21:20	#29
nafanny29 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kilburn, NW London Posts: 1,240	Thread has gone slightly OT!

11-06-2015, 12:28	#30
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Whats everyones favourite tree? Mine is the willow as I like cricket.

11-06-2015, 14:44	#31
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	I had to double check I wasn't in the politics forum

23-08-2015, 00:02	#32
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Any FreedomPop UK news yet?

23-08-2015, 11:58	#33
sdduk Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 216	Who really gives a damn about how long freedompop last its something for free and everybody loves a freebie just don't rely on it and don't use your normal sim simple. As for the UK economy i would rather live here then Greece at the moment.

23-08-2015, 12:02	#34
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	I still don't get the attraction. Mobile service in the UK is already fairly cheap, so why would I sign up to a service with a number of limitations and the potential to disappear overnight, just to save a couple of quid?

23-08-2015, 12:53	#35
BeeDog45 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 6	Quote: Originally Posted by moox I still don't get the attraction. Mobile service in the UK is already fairly cheap, so why would I sign up to a service with a number of limitations and the potential to disappear overnight, just to save a couple of quid? as long as foodbanks exist then there is a place for any kind of free service no matter what... Unfortunately some people rely on opportunities to save a couple of quid.

23-08-2015, 13:10	#36
DS Forum Support Forum Administrator Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 12,570	Hi, guys. Let's try and keep the thread on-topic from now on as the discussion veered off completely. We don't really want to have to remove posts due to clutter. Thanks.

23-08-2015, 14:05	#37
alan.w Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Southwick Brighton West Sussex Posts: 1,246	I signed up but still have not heard anything except the welcome type auto e-mail at that time

23-08-2015, 14:08	#38
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by BeeDog45 as long as foodbanks exist then there is a place for any kind of free service no matter what... Unfortunately some people rely on opportunities to save a couple of quid. We're talking about a service that can cost pennies to use, once you have the phone - e.g. 3's 321 tariff or the cheap plans offered by the supermarkets. For that you get reliable service from a company that is not likely to go bust overnight. If the key thing is to push advertising, you will need customers with money, surely

23-08-2015, 14:19	#39
swb1964 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,455	Quote: Originally Posted by BeeDog45 as long as foodbanks exist then there is a place for any kind of free service no matter what... Unfortunately some people rely on opportunities to save a couple of quid. Sure. But if they are only aiming for the very bottom end of the market (people who can't even afford a 7.50 goodybag a month) then the users aren't going to be terribly appealing to advertisers. ...

23-08-2015, 14:22	#40
cooler Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 11,177	Has this service launched already? Has anyone received a SIM? The engadget website says 'Free mobile plans are coming to the UK in July', http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/13/f...the-uk-in-july

24-08-2015, 14:33	#41
alan.w Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Southwick Brighton West Sussex Posts: 1,246	Quote: Originally Posted by cooler Has this service launched already? Has anyone received a SIM? The engadget website says 'Free mobile plans are coming to the UK in July', http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/13/f...the-uk-in-july Did they say what year?

23-09-2015, 10:46	#42
bikerlad Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 391	Looks like it's gone live today: Quote: The UK's newest MVNO has launched today, and as promised, offers a completely free SIM-only tariff with 200 minutes, 200 texts and 200MB of 4G data per month (courtesy of Three's network) -- well, it's free after you pay the £7 for SIM delivery and activation, anyway. http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/23/f...pop-uk-launch/

23-09-2015, 13:16	#43
Brady12 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 375	"By clicking Activate, you agree to pay the amount Due Today. Your FreedomPop service will not begin until your device ships. Your subscription includes a 30-day free service trial. At the conclusion of your free trial, your service will automatically renew at the rate provided. You also authorize FreedomPop to charge £1.99 every month for continued service. Cancel or downgrade at any time."

23-09-2015, 13:42	#44
GavinAshford Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 229	Quote: Originally Posted by Brady12 "By clicking Activate, you agree to pay the amount Due Today. Your FreedomPop service will not begin until your device ships. Your subscription includes a 30-day free service trial. At the conclusion of your free trial, your service will automatically renew at the rate provided. You also authorize FreedomPop to charge £1.99 every month for continued service. Cancel or downgrade at any time." Go back a page and decline the month free 1st month trial of Premium Voice. Then its £6.99 up front, £0.00 per month.

23-09-2015, 13:44	#45
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Still don't see the attraction myself. Maybe if I was such a cheapskate that even giffgaff was too much, but I'd rather pay £15 a month and get dependable service from a company that is unlikely to go bust any time soon

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23-09-2015, 17:44	#46
lost boy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolkland Posts: 1,787	Quote: Originally Posted by bikerlad Looks like it's gone live today: http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/23/f...pop-uk-launch/ It would appear so, yes: FreedomPop blog update So much for signing up early... Anyway: Quote: Originally Posted by moox Still don't see the attraction myself. Maybe if I was such a cheapskate that even giffgaff was too much, but I'd rather pay £15 a month and get dependable service from a company that is unlikely to go bust any time soon I'm in two minds about it myself. On the one hand; it runs on Three so there (for me) won't be any issue with coverage, and it seems decent for call and text allowances on the face of it. On the other hand; early signup seems to have been nothing but a time filler (I haven't heard a thing since signing up in May, it's now September and boom - they're live), £2 delivery and £5 activation (yes I can see the reasoning behind it, but after the 4 months of nothing after signing up early it's a bit offputting), various questions seem very much open (e.g. does it need a 3G handset to work, with it's network partner being Three), and so on. Overall, I'll probably end up giving it a go at some point - can't say I'd consider using it as a main provider just yet though. Personally, I'd need a bit more information before going down that road.

23-09-2015, 17:57	#47
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Signed up

23-09-2015, 18:01	#48
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Is it just 3? I thought they were planning to get a second network as well?

23-09-2015, 18:17	#49
lost boy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolkland Posts: 1,787	Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 Is it just 3? I thought they were planning to get a second network as well? According to this link: Quote: Originally Posted by TechCrunch In the case of the UK service, FreedomPop is first partnering with Hutchison Whampoa’s Three to provide network connectivity, as well as with another company providing integration services. (FreedomPop CEO/co-founder Stephen) Stokols says that it is talking with another carrier to add its network into the mix, along with a likely tie-up to offload data to WiFi-based broadband connectivity as well. At the moment though - yes, it's just Three.

23-09-2015, 22:39	#50
sdduk Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 216	Don't say nothing about being live on there website. when i try and put my post code and email address in it comes up with (Please check form fields for valid input.) even tried a different email address but still the same thing comes up.