What a great post

Regarding crudity can I add Nikki's gem that she wants to sit on Nick's face. Imagine Marc saying that or similar

I've maintained for a while that there's a kind of inherent sexism at play where Eg if females saying something crude ir sexual it is non threatening I suppose and tolerated whereas Marc being sexual and crude is threatening and scares people. I appreciate there's an awful lot of sexism the other way too particulay in BB however 2 wrongs don't make a right. This year we've had the don't shout at a girl who is shouting herself as one shining example of this type of sexism.

Hi, thanks and oh I don't remember the bit where I said 'girl' it may have been a mistake, there were a couple of words censored in my post! I can't be bothered to go through the long quagmire of what I wrote either but if I wrote that 'girl' is an insult than you are right that was stupid of me.

I'm glad it's not only myself who cannot see what she's done 'wrong!'

Thank you, I must admit I've joined this because I did a search specifically 'Harry in BB being bullied' (really must get out more or read a book) because I wanted to see if it was just me, people are always coming at a position based on their own experiences and that can make opinion very unbalanced can't it. Perhaps someone had a bad experience with a woman 'just like Harry!' Perhaps someone had a 'great mate' a little like rat face Mark. All these things create a narrative for our perceptions don't they. I am glad there are a few other people who feel similarly. I'm very surprised that the producers are not intervening with perhaps some kind of task which gives Harry a chance. They usually for utterly selfish monetary reasons I'm sure feel obligated to try to look after housemates mental health a little and I think the occasional comeuppance factor is the redeeming feature of this hunger games nightmare!

I ageee, it made me feel sad for her. Did you hear Simon actually say (I think to Brian) "this is Harry!" He did something right, how interesting despite all his obvious character flaws he was the only one to do that. It was one of the most awful things I've seen in BB and I think she's pretty tough to be dealing with it.

Ah sorry, I get you about where I used 'girl' as an insult. The reason I do that is with men like Marc, people always fall into calling them things like 'sexist' 'misogynistic' etc etc which means absolutely nothing to them, they'll wallow in it, it's a badge of honour they think they're Oliver Reed or Georgie Best or Rod Stewart or some Robin Asquith character from confessions of a window cleaner, some cheeky lad who can't help himself. Words are important so I am in the habit of calling men like Marc and there are millions of Marc's girls or bitches. You can see how much that means by how they react when you do it to their faces. So, I'm calling him what to him is probably the worst thing to be called but yes, at the same time I'm sounding as if to be a girl is a negative but I hope you see what I mean. I'll try to think of a better description instead of trying to think of the thing they would most hate.

To the person who wrote 'TL;DR' (I don't seem to be able to 'quote' that in my reply?
Hello!
Very nice to meet you, you have quoted me and replied TL;DR which I have had to look up. This is the first time I've posted and I have explained that I specifically searched online for 'Harry being bullied' are you saying something in relation to this? I'm not a forum user as a rule and am used to saying 'hello' to people!
This was what I found in my search;
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Mobile-friendly - The average IQ of people typing TLDR in Internet forums is about 64. The average IQ of people typing TLDR in Internet ...
It said its something to do with 'lurking' are you saying that I am 'lurking' or that you are? Could you write that in a real sentence? Then we could have a conversation!
Thank you anyway and I'm absolutely delighted to make your acquaintance.

She bullied Simon, as did the whole house. Even dull Danny called her out for it.

Thanks for your reply and I do know exactly what you mean.
It's just a bugbear of mine and it's everywhere.

I do tend to use the expression "Grow a pair of ovaries" quite a lot, just to redress the balance, but I'm not sure how you could describe these over-sensitive, vain, little boys and get the desired effect.

No offence to little boys.

People should draw a line under this now.

She's not being bullied but she deserves to be with the way she has been in the house, Simon, Sam, Marc, all got hostile behaviour from her.

They need to be harsher on her.

"Grow a pair of ovaries"
I like it! And I'm using it!

I agree.

Last night wasn't even that bad. It was a nomination and the only reason it was awkward was because it was the only one. They would have said stuff about jack and will say stif f when he's up.

She hung back and refused to engage. She was looking for the sympathy vote.

You are welcome to.

Exactly. There'll be more nominations and if it's Jack will there be a cry that he is being bullied. After all he's being treated easily as badly as Harry. I imagine not because he shouts. Harry chooses to sulk and withdraws but that doesn't mean she's a bully victim. It means she's a sulker

Yes, I fear this can be seen as indirect bullying. I know first hand what it feels like when the house and you're in their sights. Last night when Harry was in the toilet I knew what she was doing. I did this by rearranging the washing in the garden so that no cameras could see me directly. You can't just go somewhere and just take a few moments to yourself without thinking that the cameras can see you meaning that someone is trying to analyse how you are feeling. I haven't seen what happens tonight but got a quick glimpse on BBBOTS harry in bed with covers over her. She is not really a housemate that I warm to but what is happening to her now is I think a cause for concern for Endemol as I think OFCOM may start to get some complaints. Marc i didn't like at first, then i liked him but I think Helen has had a bit of an influence there. The fact that Housemates are getting input from the outside world watching them means that they are of course changing how they approach their experience there. We never got that. The most we got was shouting over the fence as there was a car park of a neighbouring property where we heard chants before Big Brother played the canned applause and rocks being thrown over with letter attached to it saying 'jade die' hence why now there is netting over the top to stop missiles being thrown over.

Thanks for your insight. A lot of people on here seem to think you have to declare Harry their favourite to understand her predicament so will just go against her to protect the image they have of another Hm. It's ridiculous.

It should be natural to understand that a HM, like Harry, who appears to be a private individual, where emotions are concerned, would act the way she is.
Indirect bullying is the correct word.

The only person I can see being bullied is Simon and Harry was one of the bullies.