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Harry is being bullied
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pepipop
09-06-2015
She reminded me of Annie Wilkes from the film MIsery, when the rains came and she went into her 'low, depressed' mood. She didn't even talk in the DR to BB.

She was the one that extricated herself from the HMs she entered with, and licked up to the old HMs, so she's now stuck with who she's chosen, to be with, i.e. Nick.

Her constant in your face nakedness is embarrassing to most of the HMs - she's difficult to be around.
waylander_1973
09-06-2015
Originally Posted by Tominxster:
“He is a very clever man.
She can't win.

If she speaks up she being a bitch.

By saying that she is going to play the victim so that he gets wound up and explode is like he is setting the scene so that he can explode on her.

'see I told you she would make me do it' is something that I suspect t we shall hear come out of his mouth soon.

The man is an absolute twonk and is an abuser that unfortunately has a following of people that see his abuse as just being 'banter'.”

He nasty man, they want marc in the secret house so any housemate attacking him will get a bad edit, as BOTS edit showed any housemate that calls marc out are going ripped to pieces, she's bullied in so many ways.
zolug
09-06-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“Nick is just sucking up to Marc.

He's telling him what he wants to hear.”

Why would he he nominated Marc face to face.
Heatherbell
09-06-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I accept that she's genuinely upset it's just what has created that upset that I may differ on. She tried her hardest to get among the main group of HMs and be protected by them. She has achieved a lot in that direction by not being nominated by them but being called a user really got to her and she threw her toys out the pram. It's personally embarrassing for her doing that as she appointed herself chief of security where tasks were concerned when she chided Sam and Marc for potentially jeopardising tasks in her view.

She's messed up and doesn't know how to take personal responsibility for messing up and is passing the blame to her nemesis.”

The bit in bold is a good point . She is after all allegedly a dominatrix , very used to being in charge, barking out orders and demands and being kowtowed to . Marc chose not to bend to her will and dared challenge her self perceived authority and she cannot cope with that , especially knowing it was witnessed by the other HMs as well as millions of viewers . She needs to catch herself on and get over it .
niwdeness
10-06-2015
bully
ˈbʊli/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: bullying
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.

Pretty much what Mark did to Harry in the task today.
acid rain
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by zolug:
“Why would he he nominated Marc face to face.”


And now he's trying to make amends for it.
Heatherbell
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by zolug:
“Why would he he nominated Marc face to face.”

Yes and Marc got lots of noms , face to face too, and how did he react ? He took it on the chin. Didn't sulk, didn't strop . Jack got one nom and threw a wobbler, but that's another story . What on earth would Harry be like if she had faced all the noms and criticism that marc (and simon) endured . She is unstable .
acid rain
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by pepipop:
“She reminded me of Annie Wilkes from the film MIsery, when the rains came and she went into her 'low, depressed' mood. She didn't even talk in the DR to BB.

She was the one that extricated herself from the HMs she entered with, and licked up to the old HMs, so she's now stuck with who she's chosen, to be with, i.e. Nick.

Her constant in your face nakedness is embarrassing to most of the HMs - she's difficult to be around.”


Yeah, you'd be depressed too if you were picked on.
criticallindy
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by Stube:
“Finally somebody on this forum speaks sense re: Harry vs Marc. How any one can support Marc in this is very worrying. He's a bully through and through who masks his abuse via "Irish banter" and "I'm just having a laugh". It's typical among BB viewers to side with the male bully over the sexually provocative female. She's the only one who has enough balls to call him out on his behaviour yet gets attacked by viewers and some housemates. She's actually one of the most genuine housemates in there and isn't afraid to speak her mind. The names he has called her over the past week cannot be excused or ignored. Put it this way, if Marc was female - they'd be the outsider to win and next out with unanimous hate. For some reason it is "charming" or "humorous" when it is a guy. And this is coming from a guy.”

Couldn't agree more! I don't know what's the matter with everyone. His hatred of her is sickening and scary.
trevor tiger
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“bully
ˈbʊli/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: bullying
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.

Pretty much what Mark did to Harry in the task today.”

Yeah like when he said which card do you want out of the 2 left. Giving someone a choice What a bully
acid rain
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Yes and Marc got lots of noms , face to face too, and how did he react ? He took it on the chin. Didn't sulk, didn't strop . Jack got one nom and threw a wobbler, but that's another story . What on earth would Harry be like if she had faced all the noms and criticism that marc (and simon) endured . She is unstable .”




If you get picked on it can affect your stability.
niwdeness
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Yeah like when he said which card do you want out of the 2 left. Giving someone a choice What a bully ”

More about the way he did it then what he said.

Do you know that something like 80% of communication is through body language and tone of voice?
MistyEyes321
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by pjh8:
“The most powerful housemate Marc is turning the whole house against her. She clearly is scared of him and cannot be around him or express herself around him because she is scared of him attacking her in front of everybody. It's a bit like having the coolest and most popular person in school that everybody likes/is intimated of picking on you and turning all their friends against you.”

Harry being bullied? I don't think so at all.
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“Stumpy Marc clearly doesn't like women who stand up to him.”

Saggy Harry also doesn't like men taking the limelight off her & its clear she is a man hater.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“He's not bullying her at all. She's as bad as him”

Agreef.

Originally Posted by ScarletStarlet:
“Baws. He's tried to stay out of her way. She's the one who has made it personal.”

precisely.

Originally Posted by hipsdontlie:
“She is not being bullied. She has chosen to isolate herself in order to garner attention. She has an irritaintional and obsessed hatred of Marc. I can't stand people like her, forever playing the victim.”

Yes I agree, Lets see how many times has harry come out with the usual bb stuff? Tits out, Thong, Showmance, Being aggressive & rude when she knows for a fact the cameras are on herself, Like the date for instance, The foul mouthed rant out of nowhere to sam. The Food issue. Asking nick to pretend were shagging for airtime.
Making a bee line for the originals & putting distance from the 3 other new housemates so she doesn't get nominated, She has a long list she is working to zzz

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“She certainly wants us to believe that but I think that's just part of her strategy to try to get Marc eliminated. When he leaves on Friday she is going to be so pleased with herself but when he returns it's going to be like Michelle and Emma returning in BB5 and Harry will be playing Jason / Victor ”

Of course its her strategy to get marc out before herself & she will make sure she does just that, so marc needs to be careful around Harry,

Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“That B word should be banned on here.
Yep.
Harry is the one being aggressive towards Marc, not the other way around.”

exactly & she will push & push until he snap' s.. I find her very conniving something not quite right about this girl!
Angie_Plasty
10-06-2015
I think finding out the others believe she's a user completely threw her for six, so she shut down and retreated to regroup. She's put it on Marc because she hates him, for good reason. All the "I can't express myself" stuff in relation to Marc is really about no longer being able to express herself around all of them, because she's realized her behaviour is under scrutiny and negative discussion.

I found it rather sad that the only time she nervously laughed and came alive tonight was when she tried to put on a show for Nick and Joel getting out of the bath nude, and they weren't interested.
kali
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by criticallindy:
“I'm shocked and sickened by Marc's hatred for that poor girl and his vile behaviour. It's horrible to watch the rest of the housemates joining in and taking his side. Not one of them deserves to win now. What's the matter with everybody? And Nick is a weak disappointment. ”

It's laughable how many people have fallen for Harry's poor me act.

Marc doesn't want anything to do with the psycho and even people he didn't get on with in the house agree with him. I'd reserve my faux "shocked and sickened" outrage from something real , not a crowd of people acting for the cameras
Heatherbell
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by niwdeness:
“bully
ˈbʊli/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: bullying
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.

Pretty much what Mark did to Harry in the task today.”

No , what he did was try to get her to participate in the task . It was a task for a reward and they all took it on the chin, bar Harry who chose to sit there like a hobbit sulking . Yet she was the task police screaming at Sam for messing about in her paper bag AND at Marc for sticking his fingers in the food , citing "IT'S A TASK !" Only when she wants to play apparently .
blahblahblah57
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I accept that she's genuinely upset it's just what has created that upset that I may differ on. She tried her hardest to get among the main group of HMs and be protected by them. She has achieved a lot in that direction by not being nominated by them but being called a user really got to her and she threw her toys out the pram. It's personally embarrassing for her doing that as she appointed herself chief of security where tasks were concerned when she chided Sam and Marc for potentially jeopardising tasks in her view.

She's messed up and doesn't know how to take personal responsibility for messing up and is passing the blame to her nemesis.”

Well done young chap. A perfect synopsis.
Bacon&Eggs
10-06-2015
Thing is Marc can be the biggest sh*t on the face of the planet and avoid any negative reactions such as isolation and criticism. That's one hell of a position to be in and he's made it possible by being a scary character and taking over the house ("It's Marcs house now")

To Harry's credit, she's one of two, the other being Joel, that has had the courage to confront him whilst the others apparently let him get away with scaring them into compliance, yet it's still Marc's house.

I think she finds that totally unfair and she said it all for me when she said I'm not going to be part of the Marc Show
pinklady6
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by hipsdontlie:
“She is not being bullied. She has chosen to isolate herself in order to garner attention. She has an irritaintional and obsessed hatred of Marc. I can't stand people like her, forever playing the victim.”

I totally agree with the above statement ..
kali
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“Nick is just sucking up to Marc.

He's telling him what he wants to hear.”

Nonsense !!
cah
10-06-2015
Well according to Harrys Sister ,she ISN'T being Bullied and she'd hate to be seen as a Victim ,she then went on to say Harry and Marc were Clashing because they were the same and had both met their Match in each other and that's all it was
niwdeness
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“No , what he did was try to get her to participate in the task . It was a task for a reward and they all took it on the chin, bar Harry who chose to sit there like a hobbit sulking . Yet she was the task police screaming at Sam for messing about in her paper bag AND at Marc for sticking his fingers in the food , citing "IT'S A TASK !" Only when she wants to play apparently .”

She took part in the task at the end. The simple fact is that the way he tried to get her to take part in the task was rude, confrontational and aggressive. His face was going bright red from shouting for christ sakes.

Sam was acting like a moron because she was bored and was trying to get the others to speak when everyone knew that they couldn't speak to her. Marc whilst sticking his fingers in the food was being confrontational and trying to wind her up.

Do you not understand the difference in context?
kali
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“Thing is Marc can be the biggest sh*t on the face of the planet and avoid any negative reactions such as isolation and criticism. That's one hell of a position to be in and he's made it possible by being a scary character and taking over the house ("It's Marcs house now")

To Harry's credit, she's one of two, the other being Joel, that has had the courage to confront him whilst the others apparently let him get away with scaring them into compliance, yet it's still Marc's house.

I think she finds that totally unfair and she said it all for me when she said I'm not going to be part of the Marc Show”

If they were able to nominate him face to face, none of them are afraid of him.

Harry is just attention seeking and the other HMs see that . She is also making herself look like a total psycho
acid rain
10-06-2015
Originally Posted by niwdeness;78457005[B:
“]She took part in the task at the end. The simple fact is that the way he tried to get her to take part in the task was rude, confrontational and aggressive. [/b]His face was going bright red from shouting for christ sakes.

Sam was acting like a moron because she was bored and was trying to get the others to speak when everyone knew that they couldn't speak to her. Marc whilst sticking his fingers in the food was being confrontational and trying to wind her up.

Do you not understand the difference in context?”

Exactly, if he hates her so much he doesn't even have to talk to her. She's been trying to avoid him but he isn't doing the same.
Fairy Wings
10-06-2015
Who made Marc chief of the tasks? He should have kept his beak out of Harry's part if he was avoiding her, but no, he had to take over - again!

Same as the dance routine, who was at the front saying 'watch me, just follow me?' - Yours truly, Marc.

I'm sick to death of watching him manipulate the HM's. Whenever he has a grievance against someone he gathers everyone around to try to poison their minds against them. Horrible, short arsed, conker coloured, spandex sporting twonk.
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