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Old 11-06-2015, 11:33
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...pfieHPgeQOekjw.
He so bitter. This is the 3rd time this guy slags eastenders.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...pfifqbu0W8fIn8

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2...pfihS2mw3TOoNs
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Old 11-06-2015, 11:47
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What a ridiculous thing for him to say. The show recently celebrated its 30th year and the specials were all received with great applause - especially the final live episode.

Phil, you're just jealous you're no longer in it.
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Old 11-06-2015, 11:48
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What a ridiculous thing for him to say. The show recently celebrated its 30th year and the specials were all received with great applause - especially the final live episode.

Phil, you're just jealous you're no longer in it.
I know. I think deep downs he hates it but doesn't want to admit it.
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Old 11-06-2015, 11:50
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I know. I think deep downs he hates it but doesn't want to admit it.
Maybe Phil's on the dole.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:25
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A few years ago it was so bad I'd have agreed with him but I think it's gotten better. It's not perfect by any means but there are a lot of things I enjoy watching - the Carters definitely NOT being one of them! I don't by any means think it has a divine right to go on forever but I also don't think it's in need of being axed at the minute.

Phil Daniels is perfectly entitled to his opinion but in my opinion he's a terrible actor and his character was awful. If it wasn't for Kevin Wicks the Shirley creature and her Carter clan would never have been inflicted on EastEnders.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:30
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Maybe Phil's on the dole.
He's appearing on stage in Les Miserables.

I don't know if he's right about it being too miserable, but it's definitely gone downhill. There's too many rubbish new characters, too many of the older ones have had personality transplants. Storylines are either ludicrous or repeats of ones that have been done (much better) before.
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:06
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I think it's a shame when people slag off their previous employment, especially in the TV world.
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:09
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It's so eye rolling when people slag off their previous work. But then Phil had a career before and after EE so it was just another role to him. It's not as if it made him who he is today anyway.
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:10
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A few years ago it was so bad I'd have agreed with him but I think it's gotten better. It's not perfect by any means but there are a lot of things I enjoy watching - the Carters definitely NOT being one of them! I don't by any means think it has a divine right to go on forever but I also don't think it's in need of being axed at the minute.

Phil Daniels is perfectly entitled to his opinion but in my opinion he's a terrible actor and his character was awful. If it wasn't for Kevin Wicks the Shirley creature and her Carter clan would never have been inflicted on EastEnders.
It's all he fault, no wonder he wants it axed

Seriously thought, yes he entitled to his opinion but he seems rather bitter, I find it strange as a actor he would suggest it seeing as soap work is one of the few entry routes for actors for regular work, wasn't it said that 90% of actors are unemployed?

I don't see any soap being axed in the near future, of course everything does come to a end and who knows what TV out put will be like in say 20 years time but with drama budgets being cut soaps I believe make up for the short fall and are still cheaper to make.
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:23
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EastEnders isn't anywhere near as good as it was, but it's still watchable and still has a few things going for it. The 11 million people who tuned in for the Anniversary in February prove that it still has a huge following; 11 million viewers for any tv show these days is remarkable.

On Phil Daniels - Kevin Wicks was one of the worst characters the show ever produced and I cheered when he and his dreadful family were axed. Sadly the hideous Shirley remains and his drip of a son, now a rapist, Deano was brought back to stink up our screens all over again.

I have no problem with previous actors making criticisms of the show; indeed I think a lot of what Leslie Grantham has said about EastEnders is valid. But when it comes from somebody who was barely in the show for five minutes, I tend not to take any notice.
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:26
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He raises a point about it being miserable sometimes but a lot of that did come across as sour grapes though.
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:34
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Well can't see bbc axing it's best Show!
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:55
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I like Phil Daniels and imo Kevin should have not been killed off, he and Denise made a lovely couple.

And he has a point about the bad writing, I mean, Bobby being Lucy's killer and Jane and Ian covering up for him was a bit of an anticlimax for me and a lot of Kat and Alfie's writing (especially Alfie starting the fire) was rather crappy as well.
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Old 11-06-2015, 13:59
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Old 11-06-2015, 14:33
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Phil Daniels does come across as bitter, never took to Kevin in fact he is one of my least favourite Characters in EastEnders history, EastEnders may not be perfect but there are many programmes that are in a worse shape than EastEnders in my opinion.
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Old 11-06-2015, 14:57
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It's all he fault, no wonder he wants it axed

Seriously thought, yes he entitled to his opinion but he seems rather bitter, I find it strange as a actor he would suggest it seeing as soap work is one of the few entry routes for actors for regular work, wasn't it said that 90% of actors are unemployed?

I don't see any soap being axed in the near future, of course everything does come to a end and who knows what TV out put will be like in say 20 years time but with drama budgets being cut soaps I believe make up for the short fall and are still cheaper to make.
This. How can he condone actors losing their jobs? He knows how precarious the acting world is yet would quite happily make even less work for actors because he's kidding himself if he thinks that BBC and ITV would replace their soaps with quality drama. More likely to be more reality crap!

Fair enough EE didn't make Phil Daniels, he had a career before and he's had a career since but he was quite happy to work there and take it's pound so should, quite frankly, belt up and not bite the hand that fed him for a while.

If people still enjoy watching EE and Corrie why spoil things for them? Who are they harming? There's a damned sight worse things they could be doing! So I respectfully say: shut the eff up Mr Daniels and mind your own business.

There, got that off my chest lol!
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Old 11-06-2015, 15:04
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whilst he is very wrong that it should be cancelled, hes got a point about the lack of comedy and a certain amount of complacency in the show at the moment, i think its important in any kind of long running show that whilst keeping the good writers who no specific carictors, its vital to get new blood in to shakes things up, cast aswell, spec on corrie some people (mentioning no names ) seem to have a job for life no matter how rubbish they are.
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Old 11-06-2015, 15:56
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EastEnders isn't anywhere near as good as it was, but it's still watchable and still has a few things going for it. The 11 million people who tuned in for the Anniversary in February prove that it still has a huge following; 11 million viewers for any tv show these days is remarkable.

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The 11 million viewers haven't followed it though, have they? A lot of them tuned in as a one off, then they stayed away.
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Old 11-06-2015, 15:59
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Forced comedy doesn't work in EastEnders. We've seen that time and again. The humour has to come from the dialogue for it to resonate. The one liners lately from the likes of Sharon and Jay have been pretty funny in my opinion.

Phil Daniels was never capable of dramatic performances to balance out the "comedy" he apparently was brought in to add. If you need proof look no further than Kevin's death scene (complete with crossed eyes) or that episode where he was in a traffic accident. The man just isn't a very good actor and I never found him funny. I also don't know why he'd want other actors out of jobs that Coronation Street, EastEnders and the other soaps provide but maybe he has his reasons.
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Old 11-06-2015, 16:14
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I think I will avoid Les Mis if he is in it. Hardly the most seriously dramatic actor out there, is he? Then again, British theatre will hire anyone these days. We will have Amy Childs playing Fantine before we know it and Kerry Katona doing Evita.
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Old 11-06-2015, 16:36
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He's appearing on stage in Les Miserables.

I don't know if he's right about it being too miserable, but it's definitely gone downhill. There's too many rubbish new characters, too many of the older ones have had personality transplants. Storylines are either ludicrous or repeats of ones that have been done (much better) before.
People have been saying it's too miserable and depressing since EastEnders first started 30 years ago. There was a bit of a slump after the Lucy reveal but it's picked up and is not too bad at the moment, imo.
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Old 11-06-2015, 17:10
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To be fair he does mention Coronation Street in this context too -I think he's making a point about British TV soaps per se.
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Old 11-06-2015, 17:35
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He is so bitter and jealous. Pathetic. All id needs is lighter stories and finny scenes - which is exactly why poppy should of not been axed. It is mostly dark but most big stories are supposed to be - thats soap. Its only problem is that it can be too much without some lighhearted gossip/social scenes and comedy characters/double acts.
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Old 11-06-2015, 17:53
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Totally biased view. He's probably just jealous that his exit was premature as he's now been replaced with Buster.
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Old 11-06-2015, 18:57
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I hate when people say shows they don't watch (presumably he doesn't if it's THAT bad) should be cancelled. Given the amount of channels there are on the TV, you can easily turn over and just don't watch it...


He has SOME valid points admittedly but it just reeks of being stupidly bitter.
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