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#2601 |
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According to shut up 10 all telemetry in windows 10 can be turned off. Windows have for years had some sort of system to send info back to MS when it crashes. I do not like the idea of it sending back data for every thing that goes wrong, my computer is not a test bed.
I am in no hurry to update to ten to be honest, windows 8.1 is working ok, so why bother to change? |
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#2602 |
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Oh as a update, Shut up 10 have been updated
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#2603 |
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So why bother participate as you are always negative and frankly exceptionally boring saying this over and over again. I doubt anybody is interested that you don't want to change!
Ten or eleven months after it was released, I will decide whether or not I wish to upgrade to it while it's still free, assuming that I manage to continue blocking it before then. The bugs should mostly be ironed out by then (apart from bugs introduced by recent bug fixes) and reliable one-click spy-blocking software should be available and thoroughly independently evaluated. They haven't "got me" yet on either of two W8.1 setups or my W7 setup but I need to stay ahead of the curve for it to stay that way and this place helps! And if W10 won't run my favourite oldie game as 8.1 won't, I will keep my W7 which does run it, for ever!
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He's far from the only one, me too! I'm keeping up with this thread and will occasionally continue posting because it's one way of keeping track of what Microsoft are up to, and you certainly have to do that to avoid W 10 as they keep changing the upgrade criteria.
Ten or eleven months after it was released, I will decide whether or not I wish to upgrade to it while it's still free, assuming that I manage to continue blocking it before then. The bugs should mostly be ironed out by then (apart from bugs introduced by recent bug fixes) and reliable one-click spy-blocking software should be available and thoroughly independently evaluated. They haven't "got me" yet on either of two W8.1 setups or my W7 setup but I need to stay ahead of the curve for it to stay that way and this place helps! And if W10 won't run my favourite oldie game as 8.1 won't, I will keep my W7 which does run it, for ever! ![]() |
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#2605 |
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My issue is not expressing an opinion but fact poster keeps just monotonously repeating that he does not want 10.
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According to shut up 10 all telemetry in windows 10 can be turned off. Windows have for years had some sort of system to send info back to MS when it crashes. I do not like the idea of it sending back data for every thing that goes wrong, my computer is not a test bed.
I am in no hurry to update to ten to be honest, windows 8.1 is working ok, so why bother to change? |
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#2607 |
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My issue is not expressing an opinion but fact poster keeps just monotonously repeating that he does not want 10.
Windows 10 itself is ok in that it works faster than 7 and should be more secure than 7 and 8.1. Remember I used it for a few months as a insider, not as my main Os. If Windows 10 is that good, then surly people will update because they want to, not because they are being more or less forced to? Trying to make Windows 120 more like a mobile phone OS have put people off and spying also goes against it. |
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#2608 |
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The spying thing is overplayed as always, though surreptitious data usage willl be a poblem for a few.
An extended free upgrade offer is certainly a possibility, though more likely it will be a restarted offer, post deadline. Im expecting the consumer and enterprise versions to diverge far more mid 2016+, Bing coming more into play for consumers. |
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The spying thing is overplayed as always, though surreptitious data usage willl be a poblem for a few.
I know things have changed and it is all this cloudy crap now and we want to know what you are looking at so we can chuck adverts at you. But that should never be in a Os, well certainly not a computer one anyway. We put up with it on phones and tablets and their walled gardens but some people are not going to put up with it on their computers. I can see where MS wants to go, lets get people onto Ten eventually force software developers to use the App store if they want their software on the windows platform. Then block anything else. May not happen for a few years, but it will. Quote:
An extended free upgrade offer is certainly a possibility, though more likely it will be a restarted offer, post deadline. Im expecting the consumer and enterprise versions to diverge far more mid 2016+, Bing coming more into play for consumers. |
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Windows have for years had some sort of system to send info back to MS when it crashes. I do not like the idea of it sending back data for every thing that goes wrong, my computer is not a test bed.
A third-party commercial application I use did once say they were greatly aided by this feature as Microsoft were able to provide them with info to help fix the bug. I don't always opt to send crash info to Microsoft or whoever. But sometimes I do. |
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This is my point, it is not just a Os, it is is a way of getting us to use other MS products. Bing being built in, thankfully it don't seem to be working and people are ignoring cortana on the desktop.
I cannot elaborate as under NDAs, but can tell you its been very successful and for many 'click throughs' to all kinds of company products/services. One example that really took one service provider by storm was from calling up links to their online broadcasting content from Cortana. |
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Yeah, but getting as many people onto Windows 10 is their overriding concern. No reason why they wouldn't extend the offer or bring it back shortly after it ends, because it'd benefit them to do so. Still, we'll see soon enough.
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#2613 |
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We had all this with Windows 8 too. Just put him on the ignore list.
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Insider 10586 has just been released. It is believed this will be the next RTM build
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One interesting thing I noticed is that MS are sort of now telling us 10 is more 'service' than 'OS'.
That seems a bit strange in that I see the likes of Mail, Skype, Bing and even Cortana as services, not the OS. Its fascinating really in that even Office is moving towards a cross platform service, to avoid being seen, at least long term, as a dead end service. |
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Does anyone get the issue of the start bar popping up automatically? I turned off cortina but that doesn't help.
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Will bing overtake google to be the no 1 search engine?
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Oh as a update, Shut up 10 have been updated
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Will bing overtake google to be the no 1 search engine?
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You don't have to do it but it is helpful to the developers in fixing bugs. It does not matter how well tested a product is before it is released it cannot catch all bugs.
A third-party commercial application I use did once say they were greatly aided by this feature as Microsoft were able to provide them with info to help fix the bug. I don't always opt to send crash info to Microsoft or whoever. But sometimes I do. |
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So you have seen the metrics since launch for Cortana searching analytics for many differing products/services have you. I expect not.
I cannot elaborate as under NDAs, but can tell you its been very successful and for many 'click throughs' to all kinds of company products/services. One example that really took one service provider by storm was from calling up links to their online broadcasting content from Cortana. Most people even with Windows Ten will open their normal browser and go to Google. |
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#2622 |
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TBH that's actually quite handy. I don't see any disadvantage in disabling features users don't want or need. Performance increases are negligible but slight improvement in boot. Hard to tell with an SSD though !
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#2623 |
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It is not really about performance, it is about cutting down the amount of information that is sent to MS.
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On beta news a couple of months back. MS would deny it as they love us to think Bing is doing great.
Most people even with Windows Ten will open their normal browser and go to Google. I'm also among the ranks of those who have no intention of taking up the offer of a free upgrade from Windows 7. My PC works perfectly well at the moment and I don't want to take the risk of several old but often used programs not working with it. As for Cortana, there are only two words that I would want to say to it. |
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Its years since I bothered with Now, though if I said to myhone 'Go! Now!' it just might quip back 'two great products!'.
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