I love to shoot the latest shit and help people here, but if I had a choice, I'd stay with W7.

I'm awaiting delivery of a brand-new spanking re-conditioned Dell PC with a fantastic state-of-the-art OS on it.

XP.

XP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be able to load all my old software.

I'll be able to play my games.

Photoshop with Ulead 5.

See all my photo's in all my files without having to open them.

Edit and mix music with the wonderful Magix that I bought years ago.

I won't have Microshite forcing me to downgrade to Windowsbloodyten because it can't.

I CAN'T BLOODY WAIT TO HAVE MY BELOVED XP BACK. All for £30 too!!

7 was O-K. 8 Horrendous, 8.1 only a degree worse than horrendous. 10 a nightmare.

XP *love icon, heart etc etc*

Yes, but in order to get that negligible performance increase you have to stymie the very process (feedback) that MS use to help make real performance improvements.


There is that of course, but if my computer blue screens I'm quite happy for it to do all that it can to fix itself, and leverage the power of the Internet. I doubt that there's a guy at MS sifting through my folders.


Exactly! Gone are the days when you could type "bomb" into a search engine and expect your privacy to be respected.

What a ridiculous statement. Everybody hates Bing? Possibly the majority of users don't know or care which search engine they are using. Siri uses Bing on Apple devices for example.

Given a choice, I use Google. All this talk of 'hating' Bing and Windows 10 is infantile, and appears to be some weird tribal behaviour based on having nothing more important to have strong beliefs about.

I've still to try 10 (planning to upgrade an 8.1 laptop in the next week). Yes it would be nice to still have a choice. But OTOH, sending crash info is not something I'm going to lose sleep over.

Some people need saving from themselves. My post was hardly a tirade as you like to put it, simply an observation.

As to your second sentence regarding cars no absolutely not, simply prevent them from driving until they can do so in a manner not likely to endanger themselves or others.

I really do despair of the human race. Windows 10 - what's not to like? I have installed it on a VM and two Laptops, one once belonged to Fred Flintsone the other is ours and originally came with W7, then upgraded to 8, then 8.1 and now W10.

All the installs updated perfectly and try as I might I cannot trip up this new OS - for me at least it is rock solid stable and every bit of software is still working. I don't care that it updates automatically, it's one less thing to worry about.

I always say that a little knowledge is dangerous and I read plenty of posts on these forums from such people.

I agree but when it comes to forced updates, I think MS should soften the position slightly ie, ability to prevent driver updates being installed (the switch that should do this does not seem to work in Windows 10).

In general, most issues have been due the upgrade process not being as robust as it should be, or driver related issues,

With the ability of the next rtm version to clean install and use old key rather than having to update first, I think a lot of problems will go away. Of course, the downside is having to reinstall everything etc.

I don't give an iota about the privacy issues - I am one person amongst 100 million.

If I was important enough to be of 'concern', I would not be using Windows 10.

The only item I use in that list is Skype, even when I was trying out 10, I never used Cortana, i have my own domain and use thunderbird for emails, and I use Duck duck go for searching.

I have Office, but it is getting on, I don't really use to be honest

That is very true, but what do you expect from the Tories.

10 is okish, but I felt it is not finished, too many bugs and too much changing after launch. It is like buying a car and they tell you that if you bring the car back in a few months they will put a heater in it as they did not have time to put one in when it was built.,

It works faster than windows 7 for sure, but there is so many things wrong with it.

I have software that plays up on 10, a scanner that takes a lot of setting up to get working with 10.
I have never liked auto updates, certainly ones that don't give you any clue at what it is adding. I don't even let my phone auto update or the apps on it.
I can cope just about with security updates, but when Ms say they will add things to windows 10 and you have little choice, then that is enough for me.
I do not require most of the stuff that is on ten, I do not need a personal assistant, i do need their apps, I do not need edge, I do not need their new notification panel. I do not need Skype built in as I uses the desktop version., I do not need one drive.

I certainly do not need MS knowing what is on my computer.

Interesting observation from a person who has stated he does not use Windows 10, or else is telling porkies.

I think you must have miss the bits where I have said was a insider tester for windows 10 and had it installed on another hard drive on my computer. I had at the time installed Linux Mint, Windows 8.1 and windows 10. i used Windows 10 until just after it launched, then my drive went belly up as it was getting on anyway.

No point in complaining about Windows 10 if I did not have a peak is it?
I was not going to muck up my Windows 8 installation, so I used a old drive I had here.

Don't you make System Images?

I'll kick off by stating that - regardless of troubleshooting and compatability attempts, 10 simply will not play the software I have had since the early 2000's. OK - update the software?
Not possible, much of it including the curling games were discontinued and never updated for anything beyond XP. There are no other options unless someone knows different.
Also Ulead Photo Express 5se was the simplest and best photo-shop software I have ever used. Doesn't work on anything beyond XP either, nor is 6 available with key on the web. There is an update; Photoimpact X3 which is relatively expensive and bloody complicated, and once bought the licence runs out after a month so if you get a new lappy it can't be installed on that.
The interface of 10's documents/pictures is ugly and unhelpful.
No idea if you can change the font of 10 - I've tried - need a much easier to read font. Anyone help??

if Microsoft had any customer awareness, if a customer buys or upgraded from one OS to another and didn;t like it, MS should allow that customer one free chance to return to any system of his choice, even Vista if they want!

Well, if you were using one of the insider/pre-release builds it's little wonder you felt it was unfinished. As for there being too many changes after launch (which MS implement without so much as a "by your leave"), that's just bug fixing. And it has nothing to do with not having the time to do things when it was built. Compatibility and interoperability issues often only arise in the wild.

Windows 10 is better then the layout of Digital Spy homepage which will cause its users to go down.

My cat's dinner when he's finished with it is a better layout than Digital Spy's home....

Well Vista isn't able to do an upgrade install, nor is it eligible for a free upgrade, but anyone upgrading from 7 or 8 can easily roll back to their previous OS up to 30 days from installation of Win10.

As for your original points, I run a fair bit of legacy crap on my PC and Windows 10 has been able to cope for the most part. You might just need to tweak the compatibility flags on the shortcut or installer to make it run as admin or something. If you were to stick with the 32bit version that even still has the 16bit support for the proper ancient stuff (Win95 and prior). Hell I've had Win3.1 applications going under Win7.

MS need to do an apple i think and change platform just so they can dump all the old api's and other crap behind...perhaps create windows 'bah humbug' and windows forward so the humbug will support direct bios formatting of 100k disks as required for dos 1.x and everything else forward but thats the end of the future....no new direct x versions or support for newer cpu's etc but thats life...if apple do it its revolutionary so it should be pretty good for MS users

is that the W8 you didn't like because of the tiles and lack of start menu etc. etc.?.......

Cortana - I have it switched off.
Edge - I use Chrome or FF currently.
Skype - never use it.
OneDrive - use a local account then no need to link to OneDrive.
MS app store - never used it.

That's how I have my system running.

Oh! BTW - Thunderbird is now seen as increasingly unsafe due to the lack of ongoing development - that's industry info not me saying it. I have recently uninstalled the App. I now rely on Gmail with Outlook as the client.

Personally I don't care if people adopt W10 or not - most seasoned users can see this is a very good OS and it will continue to evolve. What I find odd is just how much people hate change, it's like someone has stolen their comfort blanket. Goodness only knows what they will be like as they get older.

I'd suspect other email systems more than Thunderbird, that being frozen for security and stability. They do security updates for it but maybe being a basic email system, no new flaw get introduced.

Talking of flaws, they reckon Apple users are most at risk, those being the most likely to run outdated software.

Actually age has nothing to do with it (I've been using PCs since pre-dos days).

I remember people saying they would not upgrade to XP as they were happy with 98. Crikey, I remember people saying Windows was never going to take off as serious programmers use DOS!

When will 7ists get it into their head that 7 is no longer being developed. Sooner or later, hardware/software developers will stop developing drivers/hardware for Windows 7, like they have done largely for XP/Vista.

If you want to stay in a technological cul-de-sac, stick with 7.

Some people are, as you say, averse to change. All great discoveries and developments come from people with the imagination and desire to make change.