I use Thunderbird on W7 and it's fine.

On the subject of W10, I wonder how well this laptop I am using now will upgrade. It is a HP Pavilion DV6 bought in January 2010, I haggled £50 off the price and it had been a display machine in the shop for a few months prior to that, it could be one of the very first W7 machines out of the HP factory.

I was thinking of upgrading it in a few months time near to the deadline but by then it will be almost 7 years old. It still works fine but would W10 really work on a machine designed in the Vista era?

Thunderbird can do IMAP (I know, because that's what I use on some accounts I own).


Like Firefox and other Mozilla projects, Thunderbird has always been open source. Still, yeah, Mozilla has taken less interest in Thunderbird over the years, handing development to the "community". Sort of like how they treated SeaMonkey, which is still developed and keeps with security updates. Both projects are still alive and still get some help from Mozilla.


You can always change the look of Thunderbird via themes and extensions. Still, if Postbox does what you want, then that's fine. Hooray for choice!

Hmm... I said I wouldn't go off-topic, but the itch was too great to avoid scratching. Sorry, Oilman and Co.

In theory it should run fine, if it can run Vista/7 then 10 it will have no problem with 10. The only problem will be drivers, make sure that the drivers are available for it. Most windows 8.1 drivers will work on 10, some need a bit of work to get going as I found out with my scanner

I never realised Claws was available on Windows, I use it in Linux, I will have to have a look at that. Never heard of EM client, or Mail bird.
Outlook is part of office and is awful, I use it at work and have enough of it there. Inky is another new one on me. Mailbird I have heard about.
i may have to have a look at some of these.

I used to use pegasus a few years back and pine before that.
The other email client I used not so long ago was Incredimail.

Thanks for the list, I will have to have a look

I use imap, so my emails are not stored on my machine, well most of them anyway, I do copy ones that are important. I do not really really use web based email services, even if I have got a load of accouints still going.
Yahoo from years back, before I had the domain. Gmail, mainly because of the phone and a way to sync contacts, I have never sent a email from Gmail. Hotmail , again from years back and I only had it for Instant messaging, never used these days. GMX as I was going to use it as my main email provider until I got my domain. Oh yes, AOL, because I was with AOL and I still have the email service and I used to use AOL messenger.

I should really get rid of some./



It been open source for years


A friend of mine uses something called Mailmate on her Mac and to me it looks like a pain to use, but she seems to wizz around it.

Just a timely reminder/suggestion to all windows 10 users.

The new version of windows 10 is due to arrive in next couple of days and is a major update.

Now is a good time to make a full system image backup in case the update fails for some reason, or you run into activation issues

I have been asked if that will come as a iso also not just a update. I have no idea, anyone on here knows?

Cheers.

Probably using the media creation tool but it might be a bit behind the release date

MS surely have to release an iso asap, or else, you cannot the new activation method ie activate a clean install using old key. This was why 10565 Insider version was released as an iso. Also, how could one clean reinstall it without an iso?

I agree it might lag a few days but when 10240 was released mct was available from day 1.

I use eM Client on my laptop. I find it OK. Good to try if you're used to something like Windows Live Mail, as it's fairly similar but less buggy.

I think it would be really good if people set up a new thread to discuss email clients as this is a Windows 10 thread not an email client thread.

Of course, if the discussion is specifically related to windows 10 issues that is different, but the recent posts are the of the usual 'I use A instead of B' chit chat.

HP Pavilion dv6 (Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P7550?)
It will be OK with W10

I have an old crappy Stone MR055 laptop Core 2 Duo T2330 (2009) running W10 just fine

Make a System Image first, as previously mentioned

Download the iso with Media Creation Tool and install that way, instead of choosing Upgrade Now and possible crashing halfway through.

(that's usually not a fault of the dual-core platform computer but MS crappy online solutions)

I thought they would do, I forgot about the new way to clean install with a old key. so yes, MS will have to put a ISO out.

Cheers.

Well, that far more ancient Core 2 CPU RobinofLoxley mentioned beats most of the laptops sold in Sainsburys on Geekbench by about 33% so yours will fly.

The new cheap stuff by Intel is low wattage, certainly not faster!
Less Microsoft bloat means people get by with the ancient speed Atom type Celeron/Pentiums of today, not that they will even know things have actually slowed in certain ways.

I'm quite pleased my two old laptops are still perfectly usable.
The other is late 2009 AMD Athlon II M300 2.0GHz

Mind you, I have to have ABP+, Ghostery, HOSTS file to get adequate browsing performance.

I don't play high end games and only occasional video transcoding.

Both laptops consume about 30W each in normal use.

Patch Tuesday been and gone and there's no threshold 2 update

Latest rumour:-

http://www.computerworld.com/article...-thursday.html

It is all these Ultra laptops now, slower processors and small screen and awful touchpads with the buttons integrated into them.
If I was going for a laptop I would by a proper one, not these low powered ultra things.

I use to use "Background" on W7 to show a random selection of my photos, however on W10 you can only select "A Folder", not "All pictures" then 1 min minimum, ( i used to have it on 10sec.). So I thought id use the "Screensaver option , set it to 1min, then use Google S/S to show pics, however the S/S dosent kick in after 1min, or at all., any clues. PS I know screensavers are not necessary, I just wanted to use it to show the pics.

I have an oldish laptop that does not really work well with W10. So I removed it, blocked two updates for W8.1 KB3035583 and KB2976978 as recommended and all was well until recently. Now W10 wants to download itself again and there seems to be no way to stop it, I repeated the procedure with the two updates that somehow were back again, but the little shit still wants in. I had to stop an automatic installation of updates, so now I have about 75 updates waiting and when I want to install those, W10 download starts instead. Any ideas what I can do? Thanks. I used to like MS, but they are pissing me off lately, bring Ballmer and Sinofsky back!

Surly you can just untick the windows 10 update and then hide it, are the 75 updates to do with the OS you are using now?

I have 12 important updates and 2 optional updates waiting for me on my windows 8.1, nothing about Windows 10 on there at all.
In fact since MS changed the updates so that the Windows 10 update was not ticked I have not seen anything about Windows 10 in my updates.
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^^^ well I did that and it still shows "Downloading W10" each time I want to download and install the other updates. But I noticed I can set a policy for WU to not offer an upgrade to the next OS (it's a pro version), so I'll see how that goes.

The latest re-upgrade (Threshold2) should be available to download as iso file via the new Media Creation Tool.

I don't think it has been released yet. Wait 2 weeks?

Very strange, good luck with the policy thing.

I still have no idea why windows 10 is not showing in my updates, not that I am bothered, I still have the little widget that pops up now and again to try to get me to update mind you.

I now suspect it's just showing the wrong picture and title in WU and it's downloading the actual W8.1 updates, not W10 I will abort it if it really is W10. That's a Microsoft Cockup™ one too many for me.