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Old 18-07-2015, 14:48
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It's the Universal apps you won't be able to get from anywhere else. Third party apps will still work on desktops. There hasn't been any indication that they would block these.
Obviously for phone and tablet the case is different and if you want an app that works through all three then insisting it only comes from the official store makes sense.
The metro, universal, modern apps or what ever MS like to call them at the moment is not a huge problem, apart from the fact that every time there is a main update, they seemed to either be reinstalled or pinned back to the start menu.
i also found that some apps are put back as default, like I use foxit PDF reader and after the last update Windows own PDF reader became the default again.
Is that going to happen every time they update?

i would give Edge a go, but there is no way to import my bookmarks, only from Internet Exploder. I also thought that Edge was going to be able to use Chrome add ons.

I can understand the closed garden with phones and tablets if they do not run the full version of Ten, like the old windows RT, Google and Apple does the same thing.
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Old 18-07-2015, 14:49
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Who has gone for the Custom Upgrade/Install and who has clicked Express (Recommended)?

I was rather perturbed by what MS thought default Privacy settings should be

I only allowed sharing Location Data (for weather and news and maybe maps)
i always clicked custom, never express, i like to know what info I am giving away.
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Old 18-07-2015, 14:52
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You can control Windows Updates too, but most people have them either on or off because they can't be bothered to check the other options.
Not with windows 10 you can't, you can only defer, the settings that allowed you to download and not install, or notify you but do not download and install or do not check for updates have gone.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:01
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Not with windows 10 you can't, you can only defer, the settings that allowed you to download and not install, or notify you but do not download and install or do not check for updates have gone.
By George, for someone who has many times previously installed W10, taken a peek and run screaming back to W3.1, you seem to be morphing into a bit more of an experienced toe-dipper

Keep it up (but watch out for the jellyfish)
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:02
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The metro, universal, modern apps or what ever MS like to call them at the moment is not a huge problem, apart from the fact that every time there is a main update, they seemed to either be reinstalled or pinned back to the start menu.
i also found that some apps are put back as default, like I use foxit PDF reader and after the last update Windows own PDF reader became the default again.
Is that going to happen every time they update?

i would give Edge a go, but there is no way to import my bookmarks, only from Internet Exploder. I also thought that Edge was going to be able to use Chrome add ons.

I can understand the closed garden with phones and tablets if they do not run the full version of Ten, like the old windows RT, Google and Apple does the same thing.
Edge isn't finished yet. It will be able to use others add-ons.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:08
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I would give Edge a go, but there is no way to import my bookmarks, only from Internet Exploder. I also thought that Edge was going to be able to use Chrome add ons.
Under the hamburger menu (three dots) click settings and choose 'import favourites from another browser'.
You will need to have firefox installed (works with a portable version) with your bookmarks html file loaded in firefox, as edge at the moment is not allowing html import.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:13
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By George, for someone who has many times previously installed W10, taken a peek and run screaming back to W3.1, you seem to be morphing into a bit more of an experienced toe-dipper

Keep it up (but watch out for the jellyfish)
'know your enemy' - Sun Tzu (544-496 BC)
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:25
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The metro, universal, modern apps or what ever MS like to call them at the moment is not a huge problem, apart from the fact that every time there is a main update, they seemed to either be reinstalled or pinned back to the start menu.
i also found that some apps are put back as default, like I use foxit PDF reader and after the last update Windows own PDF reader became the default again.
Is that going to happen every time they update?
Hmm, that doesn't sound too clever. Is this only for the modern apps?
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:28
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You can control Windows Updates too, but most people have them either on or off because they can't be bothered to check the other options.
As noise747 pointed out, not anymore - for Windows 10 Home. You can for Windows 10 Pro for up to about 8 months.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:34
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By George, for someone who has many times previously installed W10, taken a peek and run screaming back to W3.1, you seem to be morphing into a bit more of an experienced toe-dipper

Keep it up (but watch out for the jellyfish)
3.1? I have never really used a 3.1 machine, apart from a mates machine many years ago, oh I did use a Amstrad machine at college, that had some sort of 3. something on.

i was a Amiga person before i came into the Pc world. If the Amiga had kept going I would still be using it.

i just updated to the latest version of Windows 10, just to have a nose.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:36
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Edge isn't finished yet. It will be able to use others add-ons.
Considering that this Os is suppose to be launched at the end of the month it should be finished.


Under the hamburger menu (three dots) click settings and choose 'import favourites from another browser'.
You will need to have firefox installed (works with a portable version) with your bookmarks html file loaded in firefox, as edge at the moment is not allowing html import.
i don't have firefox installed
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:41
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Hmm, that doesn't sound too clever. Is this only for the modern apps?
i have just updated to the latest version and this time everything have stayed as it should apart from windows 10 sticking it start menu back on again and getting rid of Start is back.
But all the defaults are ok and it seemed to have not put any modern apps back on the start menu.
but it have installed apps that I uninstalled like news and reader.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:45
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If you are going to mess about with functions, features and under the hood (and comment), you should have everything installed, and or Google and read other forums and blogs widely.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:50
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'know your enemy' - Sun Tzu (544-496 BC)
Behave. We are all collaborators in this new IT Revolution. All ages and experience levels must be included.

When patience and frustration try us, we should look inwards to ourselves and turn negatives into positives
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:52
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Considering that this Os is suppose to be launched at the end of the month it should be finished.
It seems to me that it has been pointless you being on the insider programme if you fail to follow the progress of the OS and the intentions.
There will be more updates to 10240 before the 29th and also after that date.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:55
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The compulsory updates likely make those very short lived.
Again, is there any evidence MS will force updates on any machines except the basic Home version? The only TOS terms quoted are from people in the developer preview program, for which compulsory updates are obviously reasonable.
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:56
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Considering that this Os is suppose to be launched at the end of the month it should be finished.
I think by "unfinished" does he just mean it does not yet support extensions? Similar to how Google Chrome was initially "unfinished."
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Old 18-07-2015, 15:58
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I have found Edge to be fantastic on first activation.

It lets me download Firefox and Chrome and then I dump it without a peep
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Old 18-07-2015, 16:48
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Lol.
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Old 18-07-2015, 16:49
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There will be more updates to 10240 before the 29th and also after that date.
There's been at least one already.
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Old 18-07-2015, 16:53
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Behave. We are all collaborators in this new IT Revolution. All ages and experience levels must be included.

When patience and frustration try us, we should look inwards to ourselves and turn negatives into positives
ahhhhh grasshopper

> for anyone under 55 I'm referring to Kung Fu TV series feat David Carradine, where the novice seeks enlightenment, and the master talks a bit like RobinOfLoxley^^

also here on YouTube
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Old 18-07-2015, 17:17
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There's been at least one already.
With more to come.....
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Old 18-07-2015, 17:18
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ahhhhh grasshopper

> for anyone under 55 I'm referring to Kung Fu TV series feat David Carradine, where the novice seeks enlightenment, and the master talks a bit like RobinOfLoxley^^

also here on YouTube
Domo sumimasen, I preferred Monkey!

I dunno why Microsoft don't buy the rights and turn it into a retro-advert
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Old 18-07-2015, 18:09
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Nothing will beat Chrome, definitely the best piece of software I have ever used, lightning fast!
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Old 18-07-2015, 19:12
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If you are going to mess about with functions, features and under the hood (and comment), you should have everything installed, and or Google and read other forums and blogs widely.
er, what are you on about?
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