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Old 11-11-2015, 11:16
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I have an oldish laptop that does not really work well with W10. So I removed it, blocked two updates for W8.1 KB3035583 and KB2976978 as recommended and all was well until recently. Now W10 wants to download itself again and there seems to be no way to stop it, I repeated the procedure with the two updates that somehow were back again, but the little shit still wants in. I had to stop an automatic installation of updates, so now I have about 75 updates waiting and when I want to install those, W10 download starts instead. Any ideas what I can do? Thanks. I used to like MS, but they are pissing me off lately, bring Ballmer and Sinofsky back!
On one of my PCs where I want to continue using Windows 7, I have installed the GWX Control Panel:
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Old 11-11-2015, 12:08
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Thanks. Looks like the group policy is working even if the WU now always shows W10 logo and "Downloading Windows 10" while it downloads W8.1 updates. Something must be messed up
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Old 11-11-2015, 14:31
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It is all these Ultra laptops now, slower processors and small screen and awful touchpads with the buttons integrated into them.
If I was going for a laptop I would by a proper one, not these low powered ultra things.
Can't remember the article I was reading but from a well known site, and the fastest growing market is the 2 in 1 hybrid market which gives people the convenience of a tablet, but the useability of a laptop.

For sure, not power machines, but for a lot of domestic use, quite adequate.
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Old 11-11-2015, 17:22
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I now suspect it's just showing the wrong picture and title in WU and it's downloading the actual W8.1 updates, not W10 I will abort it if it really is W10. That's a Microsoft Cockup™ one too many for me.
Sounds about right, had enough with technology over the last couple of days to be honest. Seems like anything technology based is behaving strangley even my poor PVR. Washing machine tomorrow
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Old 11-11-2015, 17:23
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Can't remember the article I was reading but from a well known site, and the fastest growing market is the 2 in 1 hybrid market which gives people the convenience of a tablet, but the useability of a laptop.

For sure, not power machines, but for a lot of domestic use, quite adequate.
Not my type of thing, but then I am not that fond of tablets, mine stays on the table most of the time. But we are all different.
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Old 12-11-2015, 11:50
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Can't remember the article I was reading but from a well known site, and the fastest growing market is the 2 in 1 hybrid market which gives people the convenience of a tablet, but the useability of a laptop.

For sure, not power machines, but for a lot of domestic use, quite adequate.
The trouble with hybrids being they never excel at either function.
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Old 12-11-2015, 14:27
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The trouble with hybrids being they never excel at either function.
But within reason they excel at Excel
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Old 12-11-2015, 14:32
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TH2 is finally here. You can download it using media creation tool. You have to download a new media creration tool - the old one will not work.

If you hover a cursor over the mct listing in file explorer, it tells you it is for version 10586.

61% downloaded!
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Old 12-11-2015, 15:55
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TH2 is finally here. You can download it using media creation tool. You have to download a new media creration tool - the old one will not work.

If you hover a cursor over the mct listing in file explorer, it tells you it is for version 10586.

61% downloaded!
Now running TH2 - update very smooth

http://imgur.com/4l1mcnk

Couple of interesting points

1) media creation tool now does not come in 32 or 64 bit version - just a single version

2) iso download is multi-version home/pro

messages clearer now.

worked perfectly

TH2 feels snappier, looks better.
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Old 12-11-2015, 15:59
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Is there a link for the new media creation tool?
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Old 12-11-2015, 16:19
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Still not on windows update yet (do it that way initially probably do a restart completely using creation tool)
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Old 12-11-2015, 16:41
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Old 12-11-2015, 16:46
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Old 12-11-2015, 17:30
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Thanks Mon
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Old 12-11-2015, 17:42
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On Windows update, downloading now
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:00
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Note that MCT is now correctly detecting the original Install Language, which is necessary to keep Apps, Files and Settings (instead of Keep Nothing)


The MS Blurb says you can check Install Language by going to Settings > Time & Language or Control Panel > Region.

However, I believe this to be incorrect. That displays Locale, your local regional keyboard and language settings.


Small point, but it matters for downloading the correct iso.

My systems are en-US but my locale is en-GB (hangover from being on Insider Previews)

Others who have bought their computers abroad may be affected.


Install Language is correctly listed by 3rd party Belarc Advisor
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:01
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Updated an old bios laptop, a modern eufi laptop, and a Linx8 tablet today. All went smoothly without any hitches.

So far, the update looks really good, feels snappier and I do not think I will even have to do a clean install on any PC.

I recommend using the media creation tool rather than via windows update mechanism, based on my good experiences today (to be fair I have not tried the insitu upgrade but based on experiences of 10240, I did not even want to try).
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:33
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Updated an old bios laptop, a modern eufi laptop, and a Linx8 tablet today. All went smoothly without any hitches.

So far, the update looks really good, feels snappier and I do not think I will even have to do a clean install on any PC.

I recommend using the media creation tool rather than via windows update mechanism, based on my good experiences today (to be fair I have not tried the insitu upgrade but based on experiences of 10240, I did not even want to try).
Went with the Windows update today, on my desktop, took about 20 minutes. No problems so far.
My laptop failed with the WU method, so I'm upgrading via the Software download now.
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:35
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still nothing here
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:40
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still nothing here
Weird - my desktop showed KB3106246 available but the download took seconds and then nothing happened.
My laptop shows up to date - nothing to download.
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:50
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oppps wrong thread lol

It's probably going to be a staggered release then, there are probably hundreds of millions of people hitting refresh right now lol
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Old 12-11-2015, 19:40
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Done the upgrade via the upgrade tool. I'll likely do a clean install at one point again
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Old 12-11-2015, 19:40
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still nothing here
Do it manually (more reliable anyway).


http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10
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Old 12-11-2015, 19:51
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Both machines done one with update other with creation tool. Both worked fine.
Got a brand new, still in the box, HP laptop to update in the next couple of days. Hopefully all will go well with that.
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Old 12-11-2015, 20:38
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Both machines done one with update other with creation tool. Both worked fine.
Got a brand new, still in the box, HP laptop to update in the next couple of days. Hopefully all will go well with that.
This supports generally what is being seen on other forums i.e. it seems as before with 10240, the MCT is the more reliable installation method.
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