To me, the whole issues of which OS to use is like Politics.

I see many 'died in the wool' 7 users as being like the extreme left Labour or 'extreme right' Conservative supporters who will never change allegiance.

Most 8 users are more like mid ground Labour/Conservative voters who generally accept change, and upgrade happily.

Linuxians are like Liberal Democrats - the breakthrough is coming, change the voting system type of mantra.

The OSX user base to me is more like the SNP, supremely strong in one sector of the community, but never going to make significant inroads outside of that user base. A few will revert to and a few will convert, but the overall windows/OSX ratio will hardly change.

windows 10 can now be update to Windows 10 Home, version 1511, 10586. from windows update this a windows 10 upgrade.

So what do that make windows 10 users, or more to the point people who uses more than one OS?

If I want to reinstall Windows 10 what is the easiest way .The only way I know how to do it is to reformat my PC , install windows 7 and all it's updates then wait till Windows 10 is offered . Is there a way I can reinstall from a USB key ?

Your statements tell a different story, but, if you think so, I'll file it alongside all your other fantasies.....

As has been posted many times........See HERE,,,,

Yes. Download the tool at https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10 at the bottom of the page, it will let you do just that.

Remember to choose the version of Windows 10 that you actually have, e.g. if you have 10 Pro then choose that.

If you have upgraded from 7 at least once, you will be able to reinstall 10 on the same computer without having to reinstall Windows 7 first

Very easy to do, assuming you have installed once and it is activated. - a major strength of Windows 10.

Create a usb installation stick, using link below.

Boot from usb stick, and select custom install, and skip any key entry.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10

As i understand it Win10 is a rolling release.
So will Microsoft be keeping that ISO Up to date.
eg if we downloaded that ISO today, would it include the improvements provided in the Most recent update.

Would be helpful for people that decide to use the ISO in say 10months, it would cut down on the amount of updates they would need to install.

AFAIK yes. They updated it to the latest Threshold update on the release day.

Still an interesting question though. Actually, I discovered something when I installed TH2.

When I installed it on my fast eufi pc from the downloaded iso, I selected to allow it to install updates and it took a little while doing this, ending up with version 10586.3.

When I installed on an older laptop, I skipped installing updates and it was quicker for sure, but I ended up with version 10586.0.

I then checked for updates, and a couple popped up, updated, and version changed to 10586.3

Of course, these could be last minute updates, but it does suggest the MCT isos are only updated periodically, as one might anticipate. So I think the answer to the original question is probably that the isos are updated periodically when then there are major updates (possibly only when build number changes).

So a definite maybe

CrossOver?


Start10?


In other news, here are the latest netmarketshare stats for desktop operating systems:

Win 7: 55.71%
XP: 11.68%
Win 8.1: 10.68%
Win 10: 7.94%
OSX: 5.63%
Others: 10.53%

Since last month, there's been a 1.3% growth in the use of Win 10 and its adoption is still increasing. For me, the truly shocking figure is the persistence of unsupported XP.

People who use XP will be mostly from the very light user spectrum who just surf, and email. They are of the same ilk as those who drive an old ford fiesta to go to the local shops. Eventually they will disappear (either the user will die of old age or the pc will die).

I would love to see figures of 10's penetration in the domestic market, as the above figures always include the corporate market where 7 is pretty much unchallenged.

I would guess in five years the domestic market will be easily dominated by 10. I am less sure about the corporate market. My last company only upgraded to 7 a few months ago from XP.

The truth is the vast majority of office pcs are used for word, excel, email and internet access, or running bespoke office accounting tools etc. My last office PC was over 5 years old. I suspect companies will upgrade hardware, but stick with 7 on the grounds of cost of change, and support infrastructure etc.

So,I guess in five years time - domestic 75%, 10 corporate 25%.

Mine just updated, for some reason it didn't download first time, lot of problems with my connection as usual, bouncing between wireless and Ethernet.

Finally got a coloured title bar back, not as good as Win7 Aero but meh, better than plain white.

er?, I am not sure what you mean.

i have a licence for start is back and they have got a windows 10 version, I do not like start 10



Windows 10 is being forced downloaded onto people and next year Ms will forcibly try and install it on peoples machines. Which is wrong and should be illegal. i would love someone with money make a case of it and take MS to court. The other thing is the free word, you know what people are like when something is free. But saying all of that I think MS thought that more people would have been using 10 by now, whihc is why they are pushing it so much.

As for XP, I still know people who are using it and I can not see them changing any time soon. I know one person who still uses windows 98, but it is not on the net, well he will be using Windows 98 when I can get around to sorting out the power switch.

Since I have a got a image back up of windows 8 and I could not be bothered to take my computer apart to put another drive in I have installed ten to my main drive.
Installing was quick enough and at long last they have the i do not want to sign into a MS account in a better place, so it is easier to see. I see the customise settings text is still tiny.


It have taken me ages to get it sorted to how I like it work and to install the software I want as well. I did notice that for some reason this update did not pick up my video card and yet the version I used before did, very strange.

Scanner even works this time, so a newish video card was not recognised and yet a 4 years old scanner was.

The new media creator tool is better, allows 64 and 32 bit of home and pro versions.

So a couple more things I have to sort out and then back the whole lot up as a image.

See what I do to make people happy

I agree. XP is a 'dead' operating system. Using it online is just basically like leaving your door wide open when going out somewhere. It's one massive security risk if using it when online. Unless a lot of the people using XP computers are 'poverty stricken'.

Quite. But you keep on spouting it anyway!

In all seriousness, Windows 10 is a great operating system that runs wonderfully on my laptop, and I'm quite impressed with some of the changes included in the latest version. Like you I don't really want Cortana or any of the new apps that are bundled with it, I'm happy with my current browser, media player, et cetera, nor do I wish to share exactly how I use my laptop with Microsoft. So I just switch all that stuff off and voila! It's far from difficult.

Of course, all of my Internet activity is still being routed through GCHQ, so I have to formulate my plans for world domination offline, but I certainly don't feel like I'm being forced into anything any more that I feel forced to buy things every time I see an advert on TV. There are no adverts on my laptop whatsoever, by the way. It's actually quite laughable that you're continually berating MS for their meddling - never leaving well enough alone - and claiming that you prefer how it was done in Windows 8. You do realize that your beloved OS is also made by MS after they 'meddled' with Windows 7, right?

If you want to make people happy might I suggest you quit your incessant whining on this thread?

That would be great, thanks.

What would make us happy would be for you to learn more about it before posting rubbish and just continously whining.....

Just because it is not supported by MS any more do not mean it is one massive security risk. There is still security software that works with XP. As the end of the day if people are happy with Xp then fine and maybe these people have no reason to update.

My mate have a windows 98 machine, a windows XP machine, a windows 7 machine and his laptop is dual boot with Mint and 10.
Granted the 98 machine as I said before is not on the net, saying that The windows Xp and 7 machines are only on the net now and again.,

Well find a good group of attack lawyers and start it? but if the US aint got a large group of lawyers already charging MS for trillions then I think the UK's not got much chance.

i hope I have sorted out the auto updates, mucked around with group policy, so it should now tell me when there are updates and not install them until I say so. That is if it works and Ms do not over ride it.

Shut up 10 have shut down most other things, including I hope the telemetry tracking


Prefer how it was done in 8? I don't think so, I prefer how things was done in 7, it was and still is a pretty good OS.

I do think that if we, and that includes you do not use any of the new features that Windows 10 offers then what is the point in updating?

I learnt about it, ages ago, sure there are other things to learn. At the end of the day I want a OS that just works and not have to pig around with stopping it telling the world what I am doing with it.

I doubt the world has any interest in what you're doing with your computer, a bit like the constant moaning here.

Why not ask Microsoft for a refund of the money you paid for Windows 10 (probably not a penny) and then put an operating system you prefer on it.