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emptybox
23-11-2015
Windows 10 should run fine on just about any desktop or laptop from 2005 onwards with 2GB RAM or more.

I had it running without issue on a Pentium 4 machine with 2GB RAM that I had built in November 2005, that originally came with XP.
That machine has now gone phut, but nothing to do with Windows 10.
jimmy22
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“Are you using the Mail app or a browser? If so, which browser are you using? Edge, IE, Chrome?”

Using via edge bringing up email that way try all ways not doing anything
TelevisionUser
23-11-2015
Much to my surprise (since they're usually slow adopters), the business community appears to be embracing Windows 10:

Half of all enterprises to start Windows 10 rollouts in the next year
Half of all enterprises will have at least started their roll-outs of Windows 10 by January 2017, according to a Gartner report released Monday, suggesting the OS is on track for rapid adoption. The prediction is based on significant interest that Gartner analyst Steve Kleynhans has seen during conversations with clients about their plans. While enterprises are known for taking their time with software updates, Kleynhans says they're moving fast with Windows 10.

Originally Posted by oilman:
“There's always one!”

However, at least Jackapple is pretty much now free of all forms of pernicious malware.
oilman
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“Much to my surprise (since they're usually slow adopters), the business community appears to be embracing Windows 10:

Half of all enterprises to start Windows 10 rollouts in the next year
Half of all enterprises will have at least started their roll-outs of Windows 10 by January 2017, according to a Gartner report released Monday, suggesting the OS is on track for rapid adoption. The prediction is based on significant interest that Gartner analyst Steve Kleynhans has seen during conversations with clients about their plans. While enterprises are known for taking their time with software updates, Kleynhans says they're moving fast with Windows 10.”

By testing it on just 1 PC probably counts as 'starting a rollout'. I just do not believe the takeup will be that rapid. My last company only just move to 7 from XP a few months ago!
call100
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Jackapple:
“Not sure what youre referring to, I was just shouting that from my own POV,

Windows 10 might be ok if you have an i7 core processor but my i3 laptop cannot run it to my satisfaction at all, so Linux is a god send for me.”

Did you not read your post that I quoted? It was obvious what I was referring to.
any i3 can handle W10 easily, so I don't think the blame is at the door of the OS.
WhatJoeThinks
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by call100:
“Did you not read your post that I quoted? It was obvious what I was referring to.
any i3 can handle W10 easily, so I don't think the blame is at the door of the OS.”

Not everyone has heard of Jesus, I suppose. Some people must think that "Christ" is just an expletive.
stvn758
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by noise747:
“Here is a bit of info about it”

Thanks.

Found a Windows forum with a regedit that tidies up the side/navigation bar, other people have mentioned having everything listed twice so it appears to be a bug or just a mess up.
noise747
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by stvn758:
“Thanks.

Found a Windows forum with a regedit that tidies up the side/navigation bar, other people have mentioned having everything listed twice so it appears to be a bug or just a mess up.”

What side/navigation bar are you on about anyway?
call100
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Not everyone has heard of Jesus, I suppose. Some people must think that "Christ" is just an expletive. ”

Was he there as well?
oilman
24-11-2015
You can still download TH2 iso using this unofficial link. I cannot say if link will be blocked by MS but sooner or later, I would expect so.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...eationTool.exe
kate36
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Are you getting it or not? Even through its a free download to Windows 7 or 8 users. They may be a problem with downloading it in the workplaces until its gets approval from bosses.”

It's on my new laptop that I've ordered, which hasnt arrived yet so I will post back when I've got it and set it up etc
It's supposed to be v good isnt it? I've got windows xp on my current [old] netbook! i dont know how out of date that is now lol
stvn758
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by noise747:
“What side/navigation bar are you on about anyway?”

When you open This PC the left hand side bit with Quick Access and the list of your hard drives installed, One Drive and Network..
noise747
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by kate36:
“It's on my new laptop that I've ordered, which hasnt arrived yet so I will post back when I've got it and set it up etc
It's supposed to be v good isnt it? I've got windows xp on my current [old] netbook! i dont know how out of date that is now lol”

Xp is around 13 years old and Ms stopped supporting it last year, it had a good run for it's money to be honest, but it is certainly out of date when compared to modern operation systems. It is slow and takes more resources than modern operating systems.

As for Windows 10 being good, the core of it is, it is fast, light and can run on light weight machines, also more secure. What you think of the user interface, that is the part you see, the desktop, taskbar and that sort of thing is a personal thing.
MS have annoyed people over a few things with windows 10, The one thing is this constant pushing of it onto people who may not want it, downloading it onto peoples computers without their permission and then the treat of automatic installation.

The auto updates is another that some people do not like, in that they are difficult to disable and MS have given up telling us what they do. Which means they could add anything they want and we would never know.

The amount of data that is extracted from Windows 10 by MS and the amount MS wants to know about you is another, yes it can be stopped, but most people would nto know how and you would lose the use of functions like one drive and cortana.

Edge, which is the replacement for Internet Explorer is not that good, it is better in the update, but still naff.

Personally I am not that impressed with it, I feel it is not complete and MS is using the excuse that Windows 10 is now a service and features will be added to it. Windows 10 was released before it was ready and the update was what Windows 10 should have been when it was released, even then it is not complete. I do not like the new start menu, but that can be changed. That is my view personally, you on the other hand may like it.
call100
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by kate36:
“It's on my new laptop that I've ordered, which hasnt arrived yet so I will post back when I've got it and set it up etc
It's supposed to be v good isnt it? I've got windows xp on my current [old] netbook! i dont know how out of date that is now lol”

Yes, it is very good. You get a distorted view of it on here as most come to resolve problems, just as they did with all the other versions of Windows.
Some (mention no name) just whine about it all the time and don't really use it.
Give it a try and make up your own mind about it.
hyperstarsponge
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Jackapple:
“Thank Christ for Linux Mint !”

Get away from the thread then.
neo_wales
24-11-2015
Linux Mint is a PITA...very much a work in progress lol
noise747
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by call100:
“Yes, it is very good. You get a distorted view of it on here as most come to resolve problems, just as they did with all the other versions of Windows.
Some (mention no name) just whine about it all the time and don't really use it.
Give it a try and make up your own mind about it. ”

I know who are getting at and yes I am using it and that message above was not really a moan, just pointing out some things.

i thought I was rather kind to it to be honest. I at least admitted that the core of Windows is good.
RobinOfLoxley
24-11-2015
Can't stand Mint. I'm an Ubuntu man.
noise747
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“Can't stand Mint. I'm an Ubuntu man. ”

Mint with cinnamon, oh we are not on about hot chocolate drinks?
oilman
24-11-2015
Still no explanation from MS about their 'insane' decision to remove TH2 isos.

All the main 'informed' websites (zdnet, thurrott etc) are just as mystified. Those two sites are usually pretty much on the ball on such things , but obviously MS have put a gag on talking to press on this one which suggests some major issue has arisen.
oilman
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by oilman:
“Still no explanation from MS about their 'insane' decision to remove TH2 isos.

All the main 'informed' websites (zdnet, thurrott etc) are just as mystified. Those two sites are usually pretty much on the ball on such things , but obviously MS have put a gag on talking to press on this one which suggests some major issue has arisen.”

Update :

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-its-now-back/

10586 MCT is back!
WhatJoeThinks
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by oilman:
“It is being reported on other forums that MS have pulled the 10586 iso. If you use the standard MCT link or the Techbench link, it now reverts to 10240.

Interestingly, if you still have the updated MCT, it still pulls down 10586 (tried it today).

It seems people on 10240 who had also been notified of the upgrade via auto upgrade have found that the notice has disappeared, and Windows reports PC is up to date.

So there is something massive going on.

There is no explanation from MS yet for this, and one is led to speculate why eg a major security issue?


Are we at risk - it is not possible to downgrade without keeping files etc?”

Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Probably it is just the SD card problem, it having a major issue when an install is running whilst an SD card has been inserted.

If this ISO can be used as an 'upgrade' then yes it could be major.”

Originally Posted by oilman:
“Globally pulling it for the sd card issue seems OTT, but that possibly makes sense as lots of people could end up losing data if the upgrade fails.

I can't help thinking if it was just that, they would have just suspended the update rather than going back to old version. It can't be that difficult to check if an SD card is in place and push an update out to the iso surely?”

Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“Perhaps lots of computers have been bricked?”

Originally Posted by oilman:
“Here is MS's non explanation as to why TH2 has been pulled.

http://betanews.com/2015/11/21/micro...vember-update/

Here is an speculative extract from another forum that I think has hit the nail on the head.

[...]

The only logical explanation is that the new activation mechanism is has a loophole that enable people to activate multiple installs of Windows 10 using a single licence key.”

Originally Posted by oilman:
“Still no explanation from MS about their 'insane' decision to remove TH2 isos.

All the main 'informed' websites (zdnet, thurrott etc) are just as mystified. Those two sites are usually pretty much on the ball on such things , but obviously MS have put a gag on talking to press on this one which suggests some major issue has arisen.”

Sorry for the multitude of quotes, but you seem to be dressing wild speculation up as an "obvious" explanation. In the absence of more information, what makes you increasingly certain that your assumptions are probably facts? You agreed with Alan at one point (SD card issue) but then continued to think the worst. Perhaps these 'informed' websites (zdnet, thurrott, etc.) are simply in the dark, and not given to publishing their own fantasies?
IvanIV
24-11-2015
Looks like another Microsoft Cockup™, they are very popular after they fired Ballmer and Sinofsky. People are already reporting problems with the TH2, real, common problems, nothing obscure.
RobinOfLoxley
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Sorry for the multitude of quotes, but you seem to be dressing wild speculation up as an "obvious" explanation. In the absence of more information, what makes you increasingly certain that your assumptions are probably facts? You agreed with Alan at one point (SD card issue) but then continued to think the worst. Perhaps these 'informed' websites (zdnet, thurrott, etc.) are simply in the dark, and not given to publishing their own fantasies?”

The only speculation there was Alanwarwic saying 'probably' and it's clear he just meant that or some other 'minor' issue (ie possible MS overreaction)

That's the way I read his speculation anyway.
oilman
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Sorry for the multitude of quotes, but you seem to be dressing wild speculation up as an "obvious" explanation. In the absence of more information, what makes you increasingly certain that your assumptions are probably facts? You agreed with Alan at one point (SD card issue) but then continued to think the worst. Perhaps these 'informed' websites (zdnet, thurrott, etc.) are simply in the dark, and not given to publishing their own fantasies?”

Nobody assumed anything. Just regulars having a chat -what is wrong with speculating?

In fact, the real reason (see my link above) is so mundane, and just basically MS trying to show they care about privacy. I think they have really excelled themselves in the 'shooting youself in the foot' department.

At the weekend, they make a statement that you will no longer be able to use isos in the future to clean install (hence major speculation - not just here but on many sites).

As of 10 pm, we find out it's all a flash in the pan, and the reasons are really trivial, and the isos are now back contrary to the weekend statements.

Whilst technically MS are undoubtedly very clever, when it comes to corporate PR, they have the intellect of a peabrain.

PS - re SD card agreement -I said 'possibly' ie conditional. If you are going to make replies get it right!
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