I said, don't 'really' use it.................meaning in any serious capacity, which by your own admission, you don't.

There's nothing wrong with speculating, I was simply asking why you felt so certain (or at the very least, worded your posts here as though you felt certain) about your speculation. To paraphrase William of Occam, it was far more likely to be something mundane than an elaborate conspiracy. What really baffled me is that you thought MS would inform the media and simultaneously issue gagging orders.

Alan was the only one I actually agreed with. He wasn't saying "definitely", just hazarding a guess. I only included his post for context. Whereas oilman said, for example, "The only logical explanation is that the new activation mechanism is has a loophole that enable people to activate multiple installs of Windows 10 using a single licence key." (Emphasis mine.)

He was quoting someone else speculating. Hence the italics.

So I was using logic - problem is MS's reason was totally illogical! This is why Kirk often beat Spock at chess.

To quote the pointy-eared one, "Insufficient facts always invite danger."

Anyway, this is all a bit silly.

I think we may all be guarded or speculate wildly or enjoy a bit of Schadenfreudian light hearted banter, but we do (mostly) know what we mean and even when we say something is likely, we know it's only a possibility.

Pay no mind to my nitpicking. I'm the kind of person that gets frustrated when people say, "I'm sure", when what they actually mean is, "I'm not sure."

"Did you remember to check that the back door was locked?"
"Yeah... Yeah, I'm sure I did...?"

Back to serious business, there is also an update tonight that supposed to fixes the defaults problem for those affected by it.

Now I am wondering how that can work?

How can MS tell what your changed settings were after they been reset to defaults ?

They might look in the Registry Hive backups https://www.google.co.uk/search?pws=...e+file+backups

On my PC where the November Service Pack finally installed, very nearly all the privacy settings were changed from "off" (how I'd previously set them, to prevent data being sent to Microsoft) to "on" (i.e. send data to Microsoft).

On my PC where the Service Pack installation got as far as the Great Circle Of Boredom before giving up, some of the privacy settings were changed from "off" to "on".

On my PC where the Service Pack installation failed silently behind the scenes, a few of the privacy settings were changed from "off" to "on".

So if the privacy settings are a concern to you, it would be appropriate to check them regularly.

Yes, that was the only info I saw around when I posted it. Possibly was a better word.

If it is back, exactly as was, maybe there were MS end issues or simply a panic went on with regards to the SD or some minor issue.

You have missed my earlier post - see #2996.

The reason was trivial.

MS's PR department should be fired for this!

A simple press release saying the iso were being temporarily halted was al, that was needed, not a heavy ham fisted statement saying isos of th2 were no longer going to be available.

Just had the TH2 update come through this morning on a device I bought a few days ago, the Linx 1010B.
It took 5 min to download and 35 mins to install.
Now on Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.14)

Like what? i know i did a clean install on my system and apart from the normal things I do not like in Windows 10 the Os itself is fine, Ok, some hardware which worked fine in original release of 10 took extra work to get going in the update, but the OS seems to working ok.

Don't really use it, who really use their Os anyway? Most people opens a browser and that is it, some may use a office suite.

I do at least have more software on mine than a lot of people, Vegas, Photoshop, desktop publishing software,. office Suites, different bits of video software and audio.
I also use the Os to copy files back and forth, so I really have no idea what you neam about not using it.

Unless you mean stuff like Cortana, one drive, mail and modern apps, in which case no I don't use them, I do not have any reason to. If I want to search I open a browser and use the search system I want, I use drop box for the few files I have on the cloud, mail I use my own domain and Fossamail ( found that last week) and I have no need for modern apps as I use the same software I use on my last version of Windows.
I think the only modern app I see is the calculator and I do not use that very often as I got on on my desk.

Granted i have not that long ago installed Windows 10, but since it is now on my main drive i have little choice, how long it will stay on there is another thing, that is one good thing about making images, it is easy to swop.

You must have a really fast broadband to download TH2 update in 5 minutes (unless it was background downloading). The update is around 3GB.

Best way is to use shut up 10, easier way to check. They just released a new version.

The $Windows.~BT folder was only 1.19GB I noticed.
Noticed this on quite a few of the HP streams too when they got theirs earlier.
On other more powerful 64bit PCs its 3.64GB.
But yes of course it does do a background download, the WU download that takes 5 mins is just a file check I expect. This background downloading is one thing I'm really liking about the new way.

KB3120677 has arrived

"Windows 10 version 1511 updates are cumulative."
(Microsoft Corporation)

Unfortunately.......so are minor doubts and niggles which impact on the degree of trust present in a relationship. Any relationship.
Microsoft need to be careful.


Cumulative. (adjective): "Increasing or increased in quantity, degree, or force by successive additions."

If a person does not understand the meaning of the word 'cumulative', I doubt they are interested in MS update policy!

http://betanews.com/2015/11/24/windo...out-permission

It removes software, but as yet, it is not actually banning the user software from running.
Are they setting the tone for the future I do wonder?

My neighbour's computer (running Windows 10) lost the Start button and all the Taskbar icons, and came up with a "Something bad happened" error message.

I eventually found a way to run Control Panel and do a System Restore. That also came up with a meaningless error message but seems to have worked.

Needless to say, the buggy November Service Pack is the chief suspect.

He's now considering buying a Chromebook.

Will you be providing IT support when he cannot print or run the programs he wants?

If we all jumped OSs every time something went wrong we'd be back to using an abacus. Just put it down to experience and try again.