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RobinOfLoxley
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by call100:
“Stand bye for all the clever MS bug jokes people are going to attempt............and fail..”

MS don't have bugs. They have "known issues"
IvanIV
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“MS don't have bugs. They have "known issues"”

That's Apple though. Microsoft just did not deliver the complete solution yet. Maņana
njp
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by Faust:
“The above - yes correct. The embarrassment lies with people who read these items and immediately add 2+2 and come up with 5. Is it any wonder they are not able to properly assess an operating system.

You just have to love the Internet don't you!”

The man who thinks users are idiots if they don't regard each new user interface as an improvement on the one that preceded it does not seem to be able to read the nuances in Microsoft's Windows lifecycle statements.

Otherwise, he would have noticed that the Windows 10 entry, unlike the other versions, includes the date of release:

"Windows 10, released in July 2015"

This is the whole point. Obviously, the version of Windows 10 that exists ten years hence (assuming Microsoft stick to their stated plan) will not be the same software as was released in July 2015. It will have been subject to many updates. Does this mean that "Windows 10" will continue to support all hardware, in perpetuity? No, of course not. Microsoft are replacing discrete version numbers with a policy of continuous development. As hardware evolves, so too will parts of the Windows software. Those parts won't be installed on hardware that won't support them. And Microsoft are drawing a line, as they must, on the age of the hardware that they will continue to support.

Perhaps at some point Microsoft will simply drop the version number altogether, and just talk about "Windows".
Virtual Paul
01-03-2016
When they say "Windows 10 is the last version of Windows", maybe the yanks use 'last' when others use 'latest'.

Or maybe they'll drop "Windows" altogether when the future of the PC is not a PC.
Faust
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by njp:
“The man who thinks users are idiots if they don't regard each new user interface as an improvement on the one that preceded it does not seem to be able to read the nuances in Microsoft's Windows lifecycle statements.

Otherwise, he would have noticed that the Windows 10 entry, unlike the other versions, includes the date of release:

"Windows 10, released in July 2015"

This is the whole point. Obviously, the version of Windows 10 that exists ten years hence (assuming Microsoft stick to their stated plan) will not be the same software as was released in July 2015. It will have been subject to many updates. Does this mean that "Windows 10" will continue to support all hardware, in perpetuity? No, of course not. Microsoft are replacing discrete version numbers with a policy of continuous development. As hardware evolves, so too will parts of the Windows software. Those parts won't be installed on hardware that won't support them. And Microsoft are drawing a line, as they must, on the age of the hardware that they will continue to support.

Perhaps at some point Microsoft will simply drop the version number altogether, and just talk about "Windows".”

It would be nice if just once you were able to quote what I have asserted with anything approaching honesty or accuracy. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of an inaccurate response.
emails
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Freemake Video Converter? Have you tried to download the latest version? It says here that it works on W10.”

Yes did do all that. Only issue at the moment is, it won't open, that's despite it telling you it's about to open.
WhatJoeThinks
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by emails:
“Yes did do all that. Only issue at the moment is, it won't open, that's despite it telling you it's about to open.”

If you trust the software you could try disconnecting from the Internet then temporarily disable your firewall while you attempt the install. Remember to switch your firewall back on before you go online though.
emails
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“If you trust the software you could try disconnecting from the Internet then temporarily disable your firewall while you attempt the install. Remember to switch your firewall back on before you go online though.”

I try first disconnecting the firewall ,to see if that works ,& go from there.
WhatJoeThinks
01-03-2016
Originally Posted by emails:
“I try first disconnecting the firewall ,to see if that works ,& go from there.”

...Any joy?
radioanorak
02-03-2016
More Windows 10 updates today
lettice
02-03-2016
Microsoft keeping up their promise or providing details of updates;

Quote:
“March 1. 2016 - KB3140743 (OS Build 10586.122)
This update includes quality improvements. No new operating system features or security fixes are being introduced in this update. Key changes include:

Improved reliability in numerous areas, including OS and Windows Update installation, startup, installing and configuring Windows for the first time, authentication, resuming from hibernation, shutdown, kernel, Start menu, storage, Windows Hello, display modes, Miracast, AppLocker, Internet Explorer 11, Microsoft Edge browser, network connectivity and discovery, and File Explorer.

Improved performance in video thumbnail generation, NetLogon, Windows Store, and standby power consumption.

Improved support for devices including some wearables, displays, and printer scenarios.

Reset app default when a registry setting is deleted or corrupted and streamlined notification about the corruption.

Fixed an issue causing favorites to be lost after updates are installed.

Fixed several issues that individually could cause certain apps to fail to launch, update, or allow in-app purchases.

Improved quality of Cortana voices and translations of multiple languages of an Internet Explorer dialog box.

Improved support for apps, fonts, graphics and display, airplane mode, Group Policy, PowerShell MDM, Windows Journal, Microsoft Edge, printing, touch display, roaming credentials, Push-Button Reset, Windows UX, local and streaming video, audio quality, error reporting, USMT, and VHD creation.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ory-windows-10”

WhatJoeThinks
02-03-2016
Originally Posted by radioanorak:
“More Windows 10 updates today”

The latest round of updates seems to have left me unable to access my Gmail account. Even the logo on the Google homepage refuses to load.

[Edit] Every other website I've tried works fine but Google and Gmail, which I had open just before the update. Also, some of the buttons ('More' and 'Search tools') have stopped working on Google. Any ideas?
njp
02-03-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“The latest round of updates seems to have left me unable to access my Gmail account. Even the logo on the Google homepage refuses to load.”

Is that an instance of this:

Originally Posted by njp:
“Indeed the one that caught my eye was this: "Unable to access Google and Google sites".

Why? Because someone recently asked me to try to solve that very problem. On the latest Ubuntu software. On one laptop out of 3 running the exact same software, and connecting to the same router. And using the same DNS settings.”

I can't help, just curious!
WhatJoeThinks
02-03-2016
I'll try rebooting for about the sixth time this morning...



......No change there.
WhatJoeThinks
02-03-2016
Okay, I can access Gmail using Google Chrome but not using Internet Explorer.
WhatJoeThinks
02-03-2016
http://downdetector.com/status/google

A problem with Google Contacts, perhaps.
emails
02-03-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“...Any joy?”

I have tryed opening FM DL using normal & open as admin ,also with turned off firewall ,but even though it attenpts to open ,its not fully opened. But this is all without the reboot ,after firewall is turned off,not sure if that really makes any difference?
emails
03-03-2016
I was thinking about windows 10 ,if one has done a free upgrade via windows 7 ,like i have ,what happens ,for whatever reason ,one needs to re-install windows 10 ? i don't have the disc ,only windows 7 disc
oilman
03-03-2016
Originally Posted by emails:
“I was thinking about windows 10 ,if one has done a free upgrade via windows 7 ,like i have ,what happens ,for whatever reason ,one needs to re-install windows 10 ? i don't have the disc ,only windows 7 disc”

Use this link, create a usb stick, boot from it and reinstall, skipping key entry.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10
zx50
03-03-2016
I think Edge is rubbish! Very unstable on 'heavy' sites. I've now switched to Internet Explorer 11 to see what that's like. I'll try that for a week, although I'll still use Chrome for YouTube though.
emails
03-03-2016
Originally Posted by oilman:
“Use this link, create a usb stick, boot from it and reinstall, skipping key entry.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10”

oh right ok ,i'll do that later ,thanks
oilman
03-03-2016
Originally Posted by emails:
“oh right ok ,i'll do that later ,thanks”

You will need to do this perodically as MS release new major builds. Unlikec older versions, the MS isos will be updated periodically.

You will know anyway as pc will upgrade anyway.

One easy way to check is download the media creation tool (small file) every four-six months or so, and hover cursor over the exe file from file manager.

When the build number (currently 10586) changes, then you should recreate usb stick.
IvanIV
04-03-2016
I just got Surface Book, so my contact with W10 is now unavoidable I had a moment of "What TF have I done?' It was quite a mess until all OS and app updates were installed. I guess two FW updates were most important. Now it's quite snappy and the HW is very nice. I use Edge and IE with the old HOSTS trick to get rid of the Google shit. Hello sometimes works sometimes it does not, a few more training runs might help, I'll see.
Stig
04-03-2016
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“I just got Surface Book, so my contact with W10 is now unavoidable I had a moment of "What TF have I done?' It was quite a mess until all OS and app updates were installed. I guess two FW updates were most important. Now it's quite snappy and the HW is very nice. I use Edge and IE with the old HOSTS trick to get rid of the Google shit. Hello sometimes works sometimes it does not, a few more training runs might help, I'll see.”

What's the 'Google shit'?
IvanIV
04-03-2016
Originally Posted by Stig:
“What's the 'Google shit'?”

Google ad servers, tag services and ad services. When I add those to hosts as 127.0.0.1, it effectively blocks them and makes Edge usable.
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