Have started getting the very odd 1-2 seconds black screen again. I'll go back to the earlier graphics driver. Everything seems fine except for that.

Aaaaaargh! Have just bought a new Asus laptop - which came with Windows 10 as standard, downloaded Google Chrome as my web browser - cos that's what I like - and keep getting kicked out of Internet with a message saying can't connect. Have been on to Plusnet who have recommended various fixes but so far nothing has worked. Will give their latest recommendation a try and failing this will deinstall then reinstall Google Chrome - I don't see I should be forced to use Microsoft Edge if I don't want to.

Incidentally, my old laptop which was Windows Vista, and which was the reason I purchased a new one appears to have no connection problems.

Has anyone else experienced this or know what the problem/solution might be, please?

It won't be an issue with Chrome, so don't bother uninstalling.

It sounds like a WiFi problem. Can you move closer to the router, or even better use a wired connection to see it that fixes it?

Is this a joke question? When you update an operating system - any OS - you can hardly expect to simply carry on as if nothing is happening. It's like when you get the painters in to redecorate and they 'monopolise' the whole house. Try to carry on as if they weren't there and you'll end up getting under each other's feet. I suggest you leave them to finish their work, tidy up and leave. They're not being deliberately difficult, so it's best to try not to cause any difficulty yourself.

If you don't get the analogy, consider driving your car to the shops while the bonnet's up and there's a mechanic on his back under the sump.

I disagree. Usually Windows can update in the background with few visible signs. This month they do seem to reduce the PC to a crawl. I've seen it a few times today.

Yes. The store apps install/run within the user profile. Supposedly they are sandboxed (hence UAC must be enabled) so shouldn't be able to interfere with the PC itself.

The approved method of controlling store usage is AppLocker, but this has only ever been available in Enterprise versions of Windows.

The reason people are kicking up a fuss is that up until recently you could also remove the store icon/links using a simple policy, but this will also now only apply to Enterprise versions of Windows (not Pro). This will effect a lot of small-medium businesses without Windows Volume Licencing though I wouldn't be surprised if someone has already come up with a Powershell script or something like that which can bodge a workaround.

Obviously it depends what they're updating. If somebody's wallpapering the spare room you can sit in the living room without any issue. Sooner or later parts of your OS that are normally in use need to be updated. Personally I place my laptop in High Performance mode and leave it alone for a while. The update process is pretty quick when you don't vie for the CPU's attention.

No it is not a joke question. Bloody thing was not installing anything just downloading updates. And you can leave your painter analogies for somebody else, I know a thing or two about operating systems. BTW 8.1 or 7 does not do this, guess their painters are better behaved.

You can drop the analogies thanks. Putting the PC into High Performance mode will make no difference at all; the CPU is pretty much maxed out as it is when updating. I agree the best policy is just to leave the PC alone for a while, if you have the luxury of time.

I often have my laptop in Power Saving mode, and the CPU never reaches its maximum speed. Even in "HP Recommended" the power optimization favours a lower temperature core. In High Performance mode it goes like the clappers, and can get so hot that I sometimes lay it 'on its back', keyboard in the air, so it doesn't have to slow down due to cooling limitations.

It's a bit like a modern car engine...

Well, perhaps you're right and it's just a special gift from MS for Surface owners.

How are you actually determining that the MS ipdates are causing your download problems?
Windows store is checking and downloading automatically most of the time and apps like edge will get their updates that way. But the updates are small and should have little effect.
Security, driver, OS and Defender updates are the ones that will come through the update channel and will take the bigger hit.
The changed peer to peer method that MS use now in Windows 10 does have many options.
If your bandwidth is suffering or limited, try looking at Settings>Update and Security>Windows Update>Advanced settings>Choose how updates are delivered
It may be better for you to turn the features there on.
Have a read of
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...timization-faq
Have found that this really speeds up the delivery of updates on those with limited dl speed by having the option of 'PCs on my local network, and PCs on the internet' turned on.
Would suggest having local pc distribution on as well as internet PCs, this works very well and have been involved in similar distribution methods at enterprise and cloud level, its a well proven method of delivery and the 'bandwidth' reduction is high.

Seen a few asking on here lately on how to make sure you get Windows 10 for free after July 29th
Howtogeek has provided a nice article all about it;


Details of how it will work here;
http://www.howtogeek.com/253901/get-...ttle-prep-now/

Plusnet have run some updates their end so should know in 10 days time whether it's settled down or not. I guess it could well be the case that I need to practically be sitting on top of the router to maintain a connection but this would worry me when this was never the case before now. Will let you know how I get on...

I fail to understand Microsofts logic - if they want everyone to move to W10 then why have an arbitrary date for completing the upgrade? Those, who for whatever reason haven't done so by the end of July (millions and millions of users) are hardly likely to then pay for the privilege of doing so at a later date.

I've just got round to creating USB recovery disks for my two Windows 10 PCs. One of them said it needed at least 16GB, the other one said it needed at least 4GB??? The one that only needed 4GB was a clean install from the media creation tool, so maybe the difference is no vendor crapware?

I agree, I thought the supposed deadline was just a ploy to encourage early adoption that would end up being extended indefinitely, a bit like the Oak Furniture Land sale.

They want to rush them to do so. I'd say if you plan to buy a new computer soon, don't bother with the upgrade. An older hardware may struggle with the new OS, let it die with dignity

Many users find W10 works fine on their older PC but of course there's always the chance that an upgrade goes bad and the user ends up buying a new PC with W10 already on it. So that all helps the declining PC sales and possibly requires a new printer, scanner, update to software etc

/end cynical mode.

W10 works better on many older pcs. So make image backup, upgrade, try it, revert if any issues.

3 days in and seem to be getting to grips with W10.

The only problem I am finding is the app store. Whatever I try to download it keep saying there is a problem at our end (Microsofts) and to try again later. Been like this for over 24 hours now.

I just cant get to grips with any windows 10 device.I tried to fix the wifi on one a few weeks back.it would not connect to the wifi.It was a windows update that caused it.My father in law took it back to pc world where they wiped it clean,and charged him £80 for doing so.I am on windows 7 myself and i will be holding out for as long as possible before i am forced to change to windows 10.it is non stop with a pop up asking me to upgrade to windows 10.No thanks.

Why are you paying PC World £80 to reinstall an OS? Windows 8 and 10 can do that by itself. You can get driver issues on any PC; I'm doing battle with the graphics drivers on my W7 media PC at the moment as I made the mistake of updating a driver that was working perfectly fine.

You can remove the Windows 10 nags; GWX Control Panel has been mentioned many times here.

Father in law took it to pc world without me knowing about it,or i would have done it myself.I have removed the windows 10 nags ,but it keeps on coming back.Windows 10 is the biggest pile of shite ever!!

To Andrew_Reid
I think you will find you are in the minority.
Fourteen million people have upgraded so far.