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Old 26-07-2015, 05:19
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Talking of "expensive HD TV tuner cards", Windows 10 won't recognise my Satellite Tuner cards yet but I will see what if anything I can do tomorrow to persuade it otherwise. If I can't get some/any drivers working then it's a no go for Windows 10 from me.
Are they USB tuner cards? If so this is another case where a Raspberry Pi can save the day.

Running TVheadend on the Pi you can allow access to the tuners from other machines on your network using the standard Sat>IP protocol.

I'm eventually going to use TVheadend to aggregate channels from Freeview (via a HDHomerun) and Freesat (using one of the many Sat>IP servers. Most probably the i LNB.) and export them around the network for reception on computer with Kodi installed or dedicated OpenELEC boxes.
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Old 26-07-2015, 06:42
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Just install Windows 10 as a clean install on a spare Hard Drive.

I've just spent 2 hours with it so far trying to make it look like Windows 7 rather than my Android phone! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Got the Quick Launch up and running so far but will work more on it tomorrow. Can't find anything at the moment!

Oh and I hated the chasing dots after 20 seconds - Is that a record?
I wish people would just try the new user interface rather than giving up straight away. Windows 10 isn't even out yet! When did we all start hating anything new and trying to make it look like something old?
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Old 26-07-2015, 07:14
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See the compatibility report is running every night now.
Noticed on my HP stream 13 touchscreen that's only a month old with windows 8.1 the reporthas this;
(!) You won't be able to restore your PC to factory settings after the upgrade
Microsoft's compatibility report faq here says this about it;

Why did I see a notification that I won't be able to restore factory settings?

You’ll see this message if the manufacturer set up your PC to run from a compressed Windows image file and included an option to restore factory settings. After the upgrade, you won't be able to restore factory settings, but other recovery options will be available.
This is going to worry a lot of people, so make sure you backup along with the recovery partition. HP make this easy by backing it up to an sd card or usb stick.
Not sure if this is saying that the Windows 10 upgrade will wipe out the recovery partition.

Also noticed that the report is now reporting printer compatibility too on my other laptops and desktops.
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Old 26-07-2015, 07:20
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Talking of "expensive HD TV tuner cards", Windows 10 won't recognise my Satellite Tuner cards yet but I will see what if anything I can do tomorrow to persuade it otherwise. If I can't get some/any drivers working then it's a no go for Windows 10 from me.
What make and model are these?
Are you currently using them under win 7 or 8.1?
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Old 26-07-2015, 12:39
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What make and model are these?
Are you currently using them under win 7 or 8.1?
Hauppauge wintv nova s2 (times two, single tuner, pci)
Tevii s480 (Just one, dual tuner, epci)
Hauppauge wintv nova T (Just one, freeview tuner)

All working fine under Windows 7.

If I can't make them work I'll just have to wait and see if a new driver is made for them.
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Old 26-07-2015, 13:21
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Hauppauge wintv nova s2 (times two, single tuner, pci)
Tevii s480 (Just one, dual tuner, epci)
Hauppauge wintv nova T (Just one, freeview tuner)

All working fine under Windows 7.

If I can't make them work I'll just have to wait and see if a new driver is made for them.
What front end do you use? There is no Media Center in Windows 10.
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Old 26-07-2015, 13:23
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I really want to upgrade but I have my PC running the best it has been, think I'll wait a month or if the reviews are very good.
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Old 26-07-2015, 13:31
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Hauppauge wintv nova s2 (times two, single tuner, pci)
Tevii s480 (Just one, dual tuner, epci)
Hauppauge wintv nova T (Just one, freeview tuner)

All working fine under Windows 7.

If I can't make them work I'll just have to wait and see if a new driver is made for them.
My Nova-S2 works on Windows 10 with the standard Hauppauge drivers, has done since the first insider build was released. I use DVB Viewer and the standard Hauppauge WinTV software with no problems.
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Old 26-07-2015, 13:39
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Hauppauge wintv nova s2 (times two, single tuner, pci)
Tevii s480 (Just one, dual tuner, epci)
Hauppauge wintv nova T (Just one, freeview tuner)

All working fine under Windows 7.

If I can't make them work I'll just have to wait and see if a new driver is made for them.
The current windows 7/8 drivers work fine with all those under windows 10.
Tevii have their own win 8 specific drivers, prob best to try those.
What problems are you having with these?
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Old 26-07-2015, 13:41
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What front end do you use? There is no Media Center in Windows 10.
My Nova-S2 works on Windows 10 with the standard Hauppauge drivers, has done since the first insider build was released. I use DVB Viewer and the standard Hauppauge WinTV software with no problems.
FIRST POST IN MICROSOFT EDGE (add dramatic music here)

On closer inspection, after finding the control panel and device manager:

It would seem that it has found the two Hauppauge WinTV devices but it would seem that it's the TeVii s480 that it's having problems with.

Software wise: yes I too use DVBViewer but haven't installed that yet.

(Digital Spy with adverts? That's got to go!)
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Old 26-07-2015, 14:03
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I could always be wrong, but I got the iso from a well known source. System properties looks like this

http://s12.postimg.org/5e4873mql/system.jpg
I got the ISO from a well known source too - the Microsoft Insider website. Just like almost everyone else whose system is now on that build
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:06
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Are ISO'S going to be made available in general? I will upgrade probably via windows update but probably going to to a refresh after installation
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:25
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Are ISO'S going to be made available in general? I will upgrade probably via windows update but probably going to to a refresh after installation
It will be possible to "upgrade" via a clean install. It's mentioned in one of those FAQs linked to above I think - or just Google it.
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:26
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It will be possible to "upgrade" via a clean install. It's mentioned in one of those FAQs linked to above I think - or just Google it.
I'll look it up. Just want to do it all correctly without any issues
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:26
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I really want to upgrade but I have my PC running the best it has been, think I'll wait a month or if the reviews are very good.
Often worth waiting a bit anyway. Wait for any glitches to be ironed out.
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:28
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I wish people would just try the new user interface rather than giving up straight away. Windows 10 isn't even out yet! When did we all start hating anything new and trying to make it look like something old?
Not just with Windows but many lack patience with new UIs.
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:34
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Success! I managed to find an old Tevii s480 driver and it installed it without objection. (That's a first for windows!)

As for getting used to a whole new interface: Sorry but that isn't how people are. We spend days, weeks, months getting our desktops as we like them with things where we know they are so that we can get on with what we want to do without hunting for it and/or googling how to do it.

imagine getting up in the morning late for work and someone has hidden your toilet and changed all the cupboard around in your kitchen so you can't find the bread and cornflakes.
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:36
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I got the ISO from a well known source too - the Microsoft Insider website. Just like almost everyone else whose system is now on that build
I'm not referring to the 10240 tech preview - I got the RTM (release to manufacturers) version that was provided by MS to technet people. It's the same effectively, but doesn't expire. They provide it with temp serials for testing purposes. I was a bit surprised that it upgraded my W7 with no hassle (and no serial), just like Windows updates will after deadline day.

The 'well-known source' is person who often releases stuff like this. I got the info from a website that is a thorn in the side of MS (and has DMCA notices to prove it). I'm sure the site, and the well-known source, are familiar to some people on DS, but I'm not going to post details here.

I don't even want W10, I just liked the challenge of getting it before the 29th. A bit like illicit sex, illegal drugs or after hours drink - forbidden fruit tastes the best.

As for the poss illegality of my W10 RTM experiment, I don't think getting W10 a week early is the crime of the century.

> my $0.02
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:54
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Are ISO'S going to be made available in general? I will upgrade probably via windows update but probably going to to a refresh after installation
From the Microsoft Windows 10 Q&A here

Can I reinstall Windows 10 on my computer after upgrading?

Yes. Once you’ve upgraded to Windows 10 using the free upgrade offer, you will be able to reinstall, including a clean install, on the same device. You won’t need to purchase Windows 10 or go back to your prior version of Windows and upgrade again.You’ll also be able to create your own installation media like a USB drive or DVD, and use that to upgrade your device or reinstall after you’ve upgraded.
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Old 26-07-2015, 15:58
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I'm not referring to the 10240 tech preview - I got the RTM (release to manufacturers) version that was provided by MS to technet people. It's the same effectively, but doesn't expire. They provide it with temp serials for testing purposes. I was a bit surprised that it upgraded my W7 with no hassle (and no serial), just like Windows updates will after deadline day.

The 'well-known source' is person who often releases stuff like this. I got the info from a website that is a thorn in the side of MS (and has DMCA notices to prove it). I'm sure the site, and the well-known source, are familiar to some people on DS, but I'm not going to post details here.

I don't even want W10, I just liked the challenge of getting it before the 29th. A bit like illicit sex, illegal drugs or after hours drink - forbidden fruit tastes the best.

As for the poss illegality of my W10 RTM experiment, I don't think getting W10 a week early is the crime of the century.

> my $0.02
Just looking at my Tech net all I see is
Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 10074 32/64-bit (English)
and
Windows 10 Technical Preview 32/64-bit (English)
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Old 26-07-2015, 16:03
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10162 was the last official iso wasn't it? I've lost track.

I have a fair few isos saved but they aren't labelled clearly enough (except for my latest 10240,
which I found by simply searching for 'w10 iso'
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Old 26-07-2015, 16:24
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I'm perfectly happy with Windows 7, to the extent that if I suddenly need a new PC I'll go out of my way to find one that has that version installed.
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Old 26-07-2015, 16:29
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I've really liked using Edge in the preview.
But will still need to install firefox and chrome in 10 next week for the addons, namely adblockers (mostly for this site), slingplayer and password managers.
Addons will not be ready for sometime in Edge from what Im reading, real shame.
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Old 26-07-2015, 16:36
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Not just with Windows but many lack patience with new UIs.
Some just think it makes them look tech savvy or cool. Whatever their reasons, who cares?
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Old 26-07-2015, 17:07
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imagine getting up in the morning late for work and someone has hidden your toilet and changed all the cupboard around in your kitchen so you can't find the bread and cornflakes.
I have a different analogy for you: Imagine you can customise the dashboard and controls on your car. People can now make their car unique, with indicators, screen wipers and lighting controls any way they want. Handbrake on the ceiling? No problem. This is all great until you get a new car, or drive someone else's car. You don't know where any of the controls are any more.

My point? It's actually easier to leave things as they are. It saves having to constantly fight with the interface. Who knows; maybe the UI designer actually came up with some good ideas!
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